Brakes. 21 crf

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1/14/2022 4:18 PM

Looking for input.

Improved my brakes over stock by using motul rbf and cm46 pads.

Looking at doing braided lines both on ends OR an oversized front.

Thoughts?

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1/14/2022 5:55 PM

Motosport usually has a two for one on Galfer steel braided lines in the spring. They will get rid of any mushy feel. Oversized rotor gives much better modulation.

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1/14/2022 6:02 PM

Would I still reap the benefits of an oversized rotor while still using stock lines?

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1/14/2022 7:08 PM

Meister wrote:

Would I still reap the benefits of an oversized rotor while still using stock lines?

Motostuff oversize front rotor, their braided line. Thank me later.smile

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1/14/2022 10:05 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/14/2022 10:18 PM

The 270 and 280mm Motostuff rotors are a nice (I have Galfer as well, but Motostuff is better IMO). I have both setups for different bikes and like them.

That said, a stainless steel brake line is a heckuva an improvement alone in my experience, so that's where I'd start. My favorite is Core Moto brand. Website:
https://www.coremoto.com/category_s/7770.htm
I have Galfer and Core Moto lines and prefer the latter (I think Motostuff's lines are made by Core Moto).

Since your model/year CRF has an awesome, relatively new differential piston caliper design (27mm leading edge, 30mm rear), you should be set there + the Nissin master cylinder is top notch, too. I wouldn't dabble with the Ride Engineering V2 or the Motostuff V2 calipers for this reason.

Lastly, the ARC Powerlever brake lever with different leverage ratios doesn't get enough discussion in my opinion. It's amazeballs and will let you fine tune your lever feel. Really nice product.

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1/15/2022 9:49 PM

Rider 5280 wrote:

The 270 and 280mm Motostuff rotors are a nice (I have Galfer as well, but Motostuff is better IMO). I have both setups for ...more

I've poked through some of your braking reports. Almost just messaged you lol..

I'm not complaining about my brakes, but my curiosity has me wondering if I'd benefit from any of the above. I ordered front and rear lines today. If I don't feel anything from that change, maybe I'll do the 280. I don't think I'll ever spring for the fancy master cylinders tho lol.. I'm of the variety where if I'm spending money not out of necessity, I'm only going to if it's a sure benefit. For instance, triple clamps are sick, but I haven't heard someone who's not being paid tell me they feel a very positive difference..

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1/16/2022 9:21 AM

Rider 5280 wrote:

The 270 and 280mm Motostuff rotors are a nice (I have Galfer as well, but Motostuff is better IMO). I have both setups for ...more

Meister wrote:

I've poked through some of your braking reports. Almost just messaged you lol..

I'm not complaining about my brakes, but my ...more

Looking forward to your ride report!

I am sure you'll notice a difference and what you think of that will steer you to your next experiment, if any.

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1/16/2022 4:50 PM

Meister wrote:

Would I still reap the benefits of an oversized rotor while still using stock lines?

Yes but not as much as braided steel line.

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1/17/2022 6:50 AM

Comparing a line to a bigger rotor, my opinion, it's not that one is better or a "bigger" benefit. They each do a different thing. On Japanese bikes with non-steel lines, you'll notice a braided line because the feel is more immediate and touchy. A bigger rotor will not have an immediately noticeable increase in sensitivity but will be subtly stronger and easier to modulate. I typically put on bigger rotors and use stock lines because I'm not a guy that wants a super touchy front brake but I do like it being stronger and easier to modulate.

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1/17/2022 6:36 PM

FGR01 wrote:

Comparing a line to a bigger rotor, my opinion, it's not that one is better or a "bigger" benefit. They each do a different ...more

Dang. That's a different perspective... I hope when I install these lines in don't find myself busting loose everywhere..

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1/18/2022 5:24 PM

FGR01 wrote:

Comparing a line to a bigger rotor, my opinion, it's not that one is better or a "bigger" benefit. They each do a different ...more

In my opinion, it depends on the system...on the last bike I had a oversize rotor on, I also had a braided line. It had a nice progressive initial feel, but could send you over the bars with 1 finger if you wanted to.

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1/20/2022 10:32 AM

A braided Galfer line that is bled correctly will help tremendously

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1/20/2022 5:58 PM

vitalriderCrf wrote:

A braided Galfer line that is bled correctly will help tremendously

What is your preferred method of bleeding?

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1/21/2022 7:07 AM

vitalriderCrf wrote:

A braided Galfer line that is bled correctly will help tremendously

Meister wrote:

What is your preferred method of bleeding?

If you plan to be around dirt bikes for more than a minute, do yourself a huge favor and buy one of these. It will save you so many headaches bleeding brakes and clutches.

https://www.harborfreight.com/mityvac-vacuum-pump-39522.html

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1/21/2022 8:57 AM

vitalriderCrf wrote:

A braided Galfer line that is bled correctly will help tremendously

Meister wrote:

What is your preferred method of bleeding?

I use a vacuum bleeder that plugs into my compressor. Thing works tits

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1/21/2022 11:43 AM

Copy that.

I've only been bleeding brake lines the old school way for 26 years... Lol

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1/21/2022 1:03 PM

Reverse bleed with a syringe is my easy way of doing it on a cheap ass budget.

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