250f engine noise, can anyone diagnose?

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10/27/2017 3:28 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/27/2017 3:29 PM

Picked up an rmz 250 2008 for cheap, it had an engine noise. First thing I did was drop the oil, check all filters and valve clearances. 3 valves were on the loose side and one tight, all sorted and in spec now.

Below are 3 videos of the bike, before I dive any deeper I would just like the opinion on others as it could be something simple...



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10/27/2017 5:01 PM

I would replace the cam chain or adjust it. Sounds like it's loose

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10/27/2017 5:10 PM

Check cam chain and tensioner and guides. If that checks out okay id pull the head off and see what the internals look like. Definitely wouldnt run it till you find it.

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2009 Kawasaki KX450F
2009 Kawasaki KX250F
2002 Suzuki GSXR 600

10/28/2017 4:59 AM

Might be something simple but my opinion would be to tear it down immediately ....we had an 09 crf250 and it developed a slight noise , not as bad as yours, but ended up needing complete rebuild including bottom end...a rebuild at this point wont be too bad since it hasnt grenaded . You mentioned you picked it up cheap...i would just plan on a rebuild and now you can start with a clean slate and be comfortable knowing whats been done to it. When you get to that point, pm me, i will save you some $$ on parts.

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10/28/2017 6:24 AM

Any idea when the last top end was done? Replace the cam chain and reset the tensioner; your bike sounds like my friend's sxf250 that grenaded shortly after. The cam chain had jumped because he didn't replace the chain or reset the tensioner. Dropped a valve and that was it for that motor haha

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If you're not mixing gas, you're not haulin ass.

10/28/2017 3:52 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/28/2017 3:56 PM

Thanks for all the replies, I decided to dive into it today and just strip everything so I'm sure.

Crank is spot on, no play anywhere
Right side casing is all fine including clutch / primary gear ect
Piston looks good considering I do not know the history I would be happy to continue using it (I'm planning to sell the bike on anyways!)
Cam chain guides look ok, I don't think they are too worn.

The timing chance to me seems quite loose! It hasn't jumped since I've owned it (test rode for approx 2minutes) and had a lot of start/stop and revving trying to diagnose issue but has not been lapped around a track or anything.

I have a video of the chain here:

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That is with the tensioner installed, the tensioner seems to operate fine how would I know if the tensioner is bad?

What is everyones opinion on the chain and how loose it is? Also can I re-use the base/head gaskets or will I definitely need new?
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10/28/2017 7:13 PM

Put the engine at TDC and see where the cam gear marks line up. That will give an idea about the cam chain.
I would replace it as you are not sure of it's history or age. The same with the piston and rings. Yes you will need new head and base gaskets.

Paw Paw

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10/29/2017 6:50 AM

Does the bike have a manual or auto tensioner?

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If you're not mixing gas, you're not haulin ass.

10/30/2017 4:07 PM

The chain should not have that much playing in it. Could be the chain is stretched and tensioner is fully extended and not put enough pressure on it also don't reuse the gaskets.

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