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Hello new guy here! I hope it is expectable for me to post this here!
Before we get to deep - let me start by saying this build/information is not based around a dirt bike.
I am currently building a Outlaw kart - Outlaw karts use 250cc to 500cc engines from dirt bikes....
We run on a 1/9th mile track - give or take based of wear we go to race... No shifting or anything like that - we run one gear (Based off set up )....
Iv looked all around the market place - and 450/500 cc engines are simply out of my price range - most engines are 2500 to 4000k and that is just the engine its self....
I lucked out and found a cr250 for 1000$ - Engine was attached to a outlaw kart prior - however it has been setting - the good news for me is it comes with everything i need plus extras - extra heads - extra carbs - the proper motor mount - brand new in box - gears..... brand new chains...... There is easily 500$ in parts
I do not have crazy dreams for any crazy amount of power out of this engine - My goal is to use this engine as a entry level/beginner - something to get me some lap times.....
I would like yalls advice on the engine its self - I have been doing my best to find the answers to my basic questions - Such as engine year........ My engine number ( me03e - 5201128 ) From what am able to tell - this engine dates to a 1990? - i used this web site - http://www.oem-cycle.com/HONDACR250BIKEID.shtml
My next question revolves around - best oil and oil weight?...... Best oil to fuel mixture?
What are so good upgrades? If any?
How about rebuild options - What options do I have for rebuild - any upgrades i could do along the way?
Does anyone have any advice for me?
Thanks guys! Looks like an awesome community yall have here!
Before we get to deep - let me start by saying this build/information is not based around a dirt bike.
I am currently building a Outlaw kart - Outlaw karts use 250cc to 500cc engines from dirt bikes....
We run on a 1/9th mile track - give or take based of wear we go to race... No shifting or anything like that - we run one gear (Based off set up )....
Iv looked all around the market place - and 450/500 cc engines are simply out of my price range - most engines are 2500 to 4000k and that is just the engine its self....
I lucked out and found a cr250 for 1000$ - Engine was attached to a outlaw kart prior - however it has been setting - the good news for me is it comes with everything i need plus extras - extra heads - extra carbs - the proper motor mount - brand new in box - gears..... brand new chains...... There is easily 500$ in parts
I do not have crazy dreams for any crazy amount of power out of this engine - My goal is to use this engine as a entry level/beginner - something to get me some lap times.....
I would like yalls advice on the engine its self - I have been doing my best to find the answers to my basic questions - Such as engine year........ My engine number ( me03e - 5201128 ) From what am able to tell - this engine dates to a 1990? - i used this web site - http://www.oem-cycle.com/HONDACR250BIKEID.shtml
My next question revolves around - best oil and oil weight?...... Best oil to fuel mixture?
What are so good upgrades? If any?
How about rebuild options - What options do I have for rebuild - any upgrades i could do along the way?
Does anyone have any advice for me?
Thanks guys! Looks like an awesome community yall have here!
Do you have a recommendation - oil (Brand/weight?)
Iv looked around for a full rebuild kits - hard to find (I found a few on ebay). The majority of kits appears to be 92 and forward....
While this is just a starter motor - i would like to give it every chance possible to be successful.
I appreciate your advice and time! alote of good info there!
Is a highly regarded oil for the transmission in that CR engine.
03.1315 ProX Con.Rod Kit CR250 ’78-01 +
This rod kit will be acceptable to use if installed carefully.
23.CBS13084 Pro x main bearings and seals
01.1315.A Pro x piston kit with 4 different slight oversizes A1,A2,A3,A4.
A complete gasket kit might be hard to come by but I think most of the gaskets are still available from Honda.
The Shop
Next question - Can you educate me on the (ignition systen) How and wear these engines get there fire from.... Im guessing it has a coil or some kinda points system?
I know my way around a vehicle - Done my fair share of transmission swaps - engine rebuilds/swaps...... I have no clue on this bike stuff - Im supposed to pick up the engine this week. Cant wait to start going threw every thing.....
Again Thank you for your time sir!
The system is pretty simple. It consists of a stator or source coil ( think alternator) with a magnetic flywheel (#8), an external pick up coil (pulse generator)(#8) a CDI unit ( brain box)(#7) and a two sided high tension coil ( primary and secondary) that's about it.....
We are debating on what to do now...... My buddy i bought the engine from offered some of my money back..... IDK if i should push for a rebuild due to age and parts availability - I would hate to get stuck in a situation wear I'm constantly struggling with a rush to find parts..... Altho I just need to get a season out of this engine (10 to 15 races) - My plain is to upgrade next year..... I need a good reliable engine between 250cc to 450cc.........
considering what i originally paid plus If I spend 1000$ rebuilding - I could have bought a complete running 450cc running bike....
Thanks for your help with this sir! You have been a great help!
There doesn't appear to be much to these engines - Seems simple.... Iv rebuilt my fair share SBF SBC / transmission swaps and engines.
I just dont know If i wanna risk my limited knowledge on this - just to save a few $ and have it blow up and come out in worse condition then before.
Iv been trying to find a builder - everyone so far has shot it down for one reason or the other......
I'm not near ready to give up on this - Wheels need to be down on the dirt sometime in late March so i got sometime.....
Ill do some hunting around and let you know what I come up with.....
Thanks again friend - Here is a couple of videos of our sport -
This is our local track - https://www.facebook.com/racindirtcom/videos/500-outlaw-kart-heat-at-ou…
Kyle Larson open - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JOojefeRdo
He said i can get 10 to 12 nights of good racing before needing to pull the top end and check over everything.
I believe ( ill double check ) he recommended 32 to 1 mixture!
He requires parts to be paid after the teardown - The rest upon pick up....
Ill keep you updates - my friend who recommended him is taking his engine to him next week - I will be sending mine as well.
What your thoughts? Again my friend! Thank you!
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