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i have a few cans of maxima contact cleaner can i use that on my plastic after i power wash
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NO. Use maxima SC1 or some others will recommend mop n glo or Pam or something but not contact cleaner it will dull your plastics and cut any type of lubricants you may want to stay on your bike.
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I've seen it done and used it before a mud a mud race. It can help dirt and mud not stick to your plastics just make sure after you spray it on your plastics you wipe it or else dust will stick to everything. And obviously don't spray it on your seat, brake disks or handlebars/grips etc. anything that you would not slippery
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Plexus is a good product to use designed for what you're looking to do. Depending on your area that may be easier to find at a motorcycle shop if you can't find the Maxima stuff.

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Wd40 Silicone "specialist" can be found at walmart or any auto parts store for about $4 bucks a can. Its not as good (nor smells as good) as SC1 but it is a 1/3 of the price. You can use it on plastics and get a similar result to SC1, but I use it on the engine and metallic parts, also under the fenders right before I go ride. I def feel less guilty than using SC1 as its pretty cheap compared.
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i have a few cans of maxima contact cleaner can i use that on my plastic after i power wash
Are you asking to use contact cleaner to clean remaining dirt or boot marks off plastics? Yes you can.

The pam and clear coat comments are to bring the plastics color back to life and help keep mud build up off during your next ride...
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slackinoff wrote:
Wd40 Silicone "specialist" can be found at walmart or any auto parts store for about $4 bucks a can. Its not as good (nor smells as...
Wd40 Silicone "specialist" can be found at walmart or any auto parts store for about $4 bucks a can. Its not as good (nor smells as good) as SC1 but it is a 1/3 of the price. You can use it on plastics and get a similar result to SC1, but I use it on the engine and metallic parts, also under the fenders right before I go ride. I def feel less guilty than using SC1 as its pretty cheap compared.
will the wd40 mess up my graphix or plastic. cause i dont wanna pay to much for cleaning supplies i think ill try the wd40 or pam which ever you think works the best.
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If you want something to really clean scuffs and stains off your bike or really clean it in general without worrying about dulling anything, try some Shout laundry cleaner. Works amazing, won't hurt any graphics and is really cheap.
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8/7/2015 4:34am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2015 4:35am
will the wd40 mess up my graphix or plastic. cause i dont wanna pay to much for cleaning supplies i think ill try the wd40 or...
will the wd40 mess up my graphix or plastic. cause i dont wanna pay to much for cleaning supplies i think ill try the wd40 or pam which ever you think works the best.
Wd40 makes a different line now called "silicone specialist " it def has a petroleum base (which could be hard on graphics glue, I never had a problem ) It being a silicone product will shine your plastic and repel water like SC1 does. I personally uses the wd40 silicone specialist on the engine and under the fenders to keep dirt from sticking and staining aluminum eninge parts. It works really great for that. I like my bike easy to clean up after a ride. As Pirate421 said, Shout is awesome for cleaning bikes. I will then use SC1 to make my bike "pretty" before putting it away for a while. Wd40 silicone specialist is for on track use. It's cheap enough to hose on thick an quick at the track without worring about $$$
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will the wd40 mess up my graphix or plastic. cause i dont wanna pay to much for cleaning supplies i think ill try the wd40 or...
will the wd40 mess up my graphix or plastic. cause i dont wanna pay to much for cleaning supplies i think ill try the wd40 or pam which ever you think works the best.
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Wd40 makes a different line now called "silicone specialist " it def has a petroleum base (which could be hard on graphics glue, I never had...
Wd40 makes a different line now called "silicone specialist " it def has a petroleum base (which could be hard on graphics glue, I never had a problem ) It being a silicone product will shine your plastic and repel water like SC1 does. I personally uses the wd40 silicone specialist on the engine and under the fenders to keep dirt from sticking and staining aluminum eninge parts. It works really great for that. I like my bike easy to clean up after a ride. As Pirate421 said, Shout is awesome for cleaning bikes. I will then use SC1 to make my bike "pretty" before putting it away for a while. Wd40 silicone specialist is for on track use. It's cheap enough to hose on thick an quick at the track without worring about $$$
well thanks then ill try shout then. do i put that on before or after i power wash the only reason that i dont use that sc1 is cause the nearest dealership is like 45 min away and just dont feel like driving all that way for sc1 hahaha.so i wanted to see what my options were but thanks and you have been good help
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I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40 with silicone works ok, but nothing special.

Do you have any auto parts starts in your town like Auto Zone, Advance, O'Reilly, etc? If you do, Lucas Oil makes a product called Slick Mist that works really good and it's only $7. Once I tried it, it worked good enough I stopped using SC1 because of the cost savings.

For cleaning, power wash the bike so that you get all of the mud off of it. Get a bucket of warm water and Dawn dish soap. Use a soft bristled brush to clean all of the metal parts, an old dish rag for the plastics, and a "grunge-brush" for the chain and sprockets. That's all you need, doesn't take anything else fancier than that. If you have a bare metal frame, uses a red scotch-brite pad to clean the rub marks.

The important thing is that you keep it clean after every ride. Don't let it get bad. Once you start getting oil and grime stains, its a pain in the ass to clean.
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mxtech1 wrote:
I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40...
I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40 with silicone works ok, but nothing special.

Do you have any auto parts starts in your town like Auto Zone, Advance, O'Reilly, etc? If you do, Lucas Oil makes a product called Slick Mist that works really good and it's only $7. Once I tried it, it worked good enough I stopped using SC1 because of the cost savings.

For cleaning, power wash the bike so that you get all of the mud off of it. Get a bucket of warm water and Dawn dish soap. Use a soft bristled brush to clean all of the metal parts, an old dish rag for the plastics, and a "grunge-brush" for the chain and sprockets. That's all you need, doesn't take anything else fancier than that. If you have a bare metal frame, uses a red scotch-brite pad to clean the rub marks.

The important thing is that you keep it clean after every ride. Don't let it get bad. Once you start getting oil and grime stains, its a pain in the ass to clean.
Thats perfect cause we have a couple of those.I will pick some up today.I thought though you were supposed to use the green scotch brite pads.Im glad that you messaged me cause i didnt think it was a good idea to use wd40 but i will pick some supplies today.Ill never be a pro but i can try to look like one right?
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mxtech1 wrote:
I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40...
I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40 with silicone works ok, but nothing special.

Do you have any auto parts starts in your town like Auto Zone, Advance, O'Reilly, etc? If you do, Lucas Oil makes a product called Slick Mist that works really good and it's only $7. Once I tried it, it worked good enough I stopped using SC1 because of the cost savings.

For cleaning, power wash the bike so that you get all of the mud off of it. Get a bucket of warm water and Dawn dish soap. Use a soft bristled brush to clean all of the metal parts, an old dish rag for the plastics, and a "grunge-brush" for the chain and sprockets. That's all you need, doesn't take anything else fancier than that. If you have a bare metal frame, uses a red scotch-brite pad to clean the rub marks.

The important thing is that you keep it clean after every ride. Don't let it get bad. Once you start getting oil and grime stains, its a pain in the ass to clean.
Thats perfect cause we have a couple of those.I will pick some up today.I thought though you were supposed to use the green scotch brite pads.Im...
Thats perfect cause we have a couple of those.I will pick some up today.I thought though you were supposed to use the green scotch brite pads.Im glad that you messaged me cause i didnt think it was a good idea to use wd40 but i will pick some supplies today.Ill never be a pro but i can try to look like one right?
is it a wax.Cause i just called advanced auto and they said they have wax
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8/7/2015 8:13am
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No, it's more of a detailing spray/cleaner. You do not want anything wax-based on your bike. Tell them you need the red bottle not the blue...
No, it's more of a detailing spray/cleaner. You do not want anything wax-based on your bike.

Tell them you need the red bottle not the blue one.

Here is the link from Lucas

http://lucasoil.com/products/car-care/lucas-slick-mist-interior-detailer

Also, this stuff really is slick. Don't apply it to your seat, grips, or levers.

Thanks for the tip on the red bottle slick mist! Wow, I actually use the blue bottle on my truck, it's a durn good product.

I would love to get away from the wd40 silicone because it still has petroleum base, and I just don't like all that petrol smell everywhere and getting everywhere.
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Dawn works good also but is a degreaser too so if you get a bunch all over the bike it's really soapy and needs quite a bit of water to rinse off and can break down gold grease. With shout I rinse all the heavy mud or dirt and then spray the shout all over everything while the bike is wet, you can use a soft brush to work it into the plastics and cases, wheels everything, then hose it off. It's way less caustic than simple green and doesn't need to be diluted at all and can stay on the bike for long periods unlike simple green or other harsh cleaners. Also it makes your bike smell good and can be used with great results on white boots and helmets.
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8/7/2015 8:55am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2015 8:56am
I once ruined the fork tube coatings on a brand new set of A kit suspension because i was told the spray bottle was already diluted 409. It wasn't......

Turns out the bottle was 100% 409 concentrate. As soon as it hit the forks, it started eating away the anodized coating. Had to wait until the end of the schedule to ship the forks back for re-coating lol.
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Shout is the best bike cleaner I've come across. Been using it for about 10 years. It's pH neutral so it will never wreck your metal finishes.

Stay away from caustic cleaners like Simple Green, Purple Power, LA's totally awesome, etc. They are highly alkaline and will oxidize the metals on your bikes.
8/7/2015 10:03am
slackinoff wrote:
Wd40 Silicone "specialist" can be found at walmart or any auto parts store for about $4 bucks a can. Its not as good (nor smells as...
Wd40 Silicone "specialist" can be found at walmart or any auto parts store for about $4 bucks a can. Its not as good (nor smells as good) as SC1 but it is a 1/3 of the price. You can use it on plastics and get a similar result to SC1, but I use it on the engine and metallic parts, also under the fenders right before I go ride. I def feel less guilty than using SC1 as its pretty cheap compared.
WD40 is the absolute best and cheapest way to go. does the same exact thing as allllll the other products for a fraction of the cost and in much larger containers. Spray the entire bike after every wash then wipe away the excess liquid and it leaves the bike sparkling shiny and keeps heavy dirt and mud from building up anywhere it could get stuck. after every time I come off the track its another wipe down, clean, and spray all the plastics and motor bits. I am constantly getting compliments and inquiries at the tracks on how my bikes and set up are always the freshest and cleanest looking no matter what the conditions or how long ive had the bike. I also use the WD40 on my helmet and any other gear you wanna keep shiny and clean while riding.
8/7/2015 10:08am
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I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40...
I wouldn't use straight WD40 on plastics because it's slightly oily and can increase gunk-build up over time around the edge of your graphics. The WD40 with silicone works ok, but nothing special.

Do you have any auto parts starts in your town like Auto Zone, Advance, O'Reilly, etc? If you do, Lucas Oil makes a product called Slick Mist that works really good and it's only $7. Once I tried it, it worked good enough I stopped using SC1 because of the cost savings.

For cleaning, power wash the bike so that you get all of the mud off of it. Get a bucket of warm water and Dawn dish soap. Use a soft bristled brush to clean all of the metal parts, an old dish rag for the plastics, and a "grunge-brush" for the chain and sprockets. That's all you need, doesn't take anything else fancier than that. If you have a bare metal frame, uses a red scotch-brite pad to clean the rub marks.

The important thing is that you keep it clean after every ride. Don't let it get bad. Once you start getting oil and grime stains, its a pain in the ass to clean.
MXtech1: you couldnt be more wrong about the WD40. ive been using it religiouslly for 25 years, and my dad and his dad before that for much longer. NEVER have any gunk build up and my graphics and stickers last all year no problem. maybe you just use too much or dont wipe it down after spraying...

Also unless youre a factory mechanic or a factory rider with uber spare parts I try and always avoid the pressure washer, unless were at a mud race of course. the pressure washer blasts sand and water and and crap into all your seals, bearings, basically anywhere that could potentially be an opening. The hose and a nozzle with THE BEST WASHING FLUID EVER (SIMPLEGREEN) are all a regular racer needs after a day of riding. never had a complaint with these 2 products and they are cheap and come in bulk
8/7/2015 10:10am
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Shout is the best bike cleaner I've come across. Been using it for about 10 years. It's pH neutral so it will never wreck your metal...
Shout is the best bike cleaner I've come across. Been using it for about 10 years. It's pH neutral so it will never wreck your metal finishes.

Stay away from caustic cleaners like Simple Green, Purple Power, LA's totally awesome, etc. They are highly alkaline and will oxidize the metals on your bikes.
in 25 years of riding and using simple green, not straight but a diluted mixture, never had a plastic fade or metal piece become oxidized...
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8/7/2015 10:21am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2015 10:52am
in 25 years of riding and using simple green, not straight but a diluted mixture, never had a plastic fade or metal piece become oxidized...
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed with Shout for a year and the one that has been washed with SG for a year will look remarkably different, with the Shout bike looking noticeably better.

BTW, None of the mentioned cleaners will have a negative affect on the plastic. It's the metal surfaces that tell the story.

Just get the MSDS sheets for each cleaner. If the pH is higher than 8 or lower than 7, don't use it on your bike. most all purpose cleaners have a pH ranging from 10-14 and these will do some real damage.

The concern is great enough that the FAA has issued an advisory circular warning of care in using common alkaline cleaning agents like Simple Green, which has a pH of 9.5

BTW, I used SG for 20 years prior to discovering Shout. When you find something that works better, you change.
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8/7/2015 10:57am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2015 10:58am
CamP wrote:
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed...
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed with Shout for a year and the one that has been washed with SG for a year will look remarkably different, with the Shout bike looking noticeably better.

BTW, None of the mentioned cleaners will have a negative affect on the plastic. It's the metal surfaces that tell the story.

Just get the MSDS sheets for each cleaner. If the pH is higher than 8 or lower than 7, don't use it on your bike. most all purpose cleaners have a pH ranging from 10-14 and these will do some real damage.

The concern is great enough that the FAA has issued an advisory circular warning of care in using common alkaline cleaning agents like Simple Green, which has a pH of 9.5

BTW, I used SG for 20 years prior to discovering Shout. When you find something that works better, you change.
I agree with this and also have seen it first hand,

Put them side by side, you can tell a major difference on the bare aluminum parts of the bike, for example the engine cases. I have a thing for clean aluminum parts, trust me.

These are not brand new cases, they were vapor blasted.





8/7/2015 11:08am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2015 11:12am
CamP wrote:
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed...
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed with Shout for a year and the one that has been washed with SG for a year will look remarkably different, with the Shout bike looking noticeably better.

BTW, None of the mentioned cleaners will have a negative affect on the plastic. It's the metal surfaces that tell the story.

Just get the MSDS sheets for each cleaner. If the pH is higher than 8 or lower than 7, don't use it on your bike. most all purpose cleaners have a pH ranging from 10-14 and these will do some real damage.

The concern is great enough that the FAA has issued an advisory circular warning of care in using common alkaline cleaning agents like Simple Green, which has a pH of 9.5

BTW, I used SG for 20 years prior to discovering Shout. When you find something that works better, you change.
slackinoff wrote:
I agree with this and also have seen it first hand, Put them side by side, you can tell a major difference on the bare aluminum...
I agree with this and also have seen it first hand,

Put them side by side, you can tell a major difference on the bare aluminum parts of the bike, for example the engine cases. I have a thing for clean aluminum parts, trust me.

These are not brand new cases, they were vapor blasted.





CamP Im quite a bit of a lurker on here and rarely post, but I do know I shouldnt try and argue against your knowledge and experience, im a young pup cmpared to you lol, you have sparked my interest and I will be picking some shout up as soon as my last simple green gallon is gone ; ) thanks

edit: but what about not using the simple green by itself and instead diluting it? I always cut it with water and the amount depends on how dirty the bike is, does this help to negate the oxidizing effects on the metals then?
8/7/2015 11:18am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2015 11:22am
Purple Power, Simple Green are like a mild paint stripper over time.

Had some nice lexan number plates on my Champion dirt tracker, with the graphics on the under / back side of the lexan. One wash with the green, and they were no longer nice. The sheen of the lexan was dulled, and spotted everywhere the spray from the bottle hit them.

Purple Power will take anodizing off in about two washes, back to bare aluminum nearly.

I tried the Shout after hearing Cam praise it, and will use nothing else now. It works, and does not take much scrubbing effort, which can also dull plastics.

Yamaha makes a good silicone spray that I use on the metals and rubber. I use Pledge furniture polish on my plastics. Works good.
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CamP Im quite a bit of a lurker on here and rarely post, but I do know I shouldnt try and argue against your knowledge and...
CamP Im quite a bit of a lurker on here and rarely post, but I do know I shouldnt try and argue against your knowledge and experience, im a young pup cmpared to you lol, you have sparked my interest and I will be picking some shout up as soon as my last simple green gallon is gone ; ) thanks

edit: but what about not using the simple green by itself and instead diluting it? I always cut it with water and the amount depends on how dirty the bike is, does this help to negate the oxidizing effects on the metals then?
Diluting SG is a must. Adding water lowers its' pH. Using it straight will immediately etch/stain any aluminum surface.

Shout is available in 1.34 gallon jugs at Costco. It's the cheapest I've found it. Walmart also has it in the laundry aisle.

The Shout results are best on a new bike. It won't repair any previous dulling caused by other chemicals, but it will keep a new bike looking new for longing than any other cleaner on the market.

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so i just power wash my bike and then put shout on then wipe it off. Im gonna leave in about 10 min and go get sum.What should i get lucas oil slick mist or shout
8/7/2015 11:31am
CamP wrote:
Diluting SG is a must. Adding water lowers its' pH. Using it straight will immediately etch/stain any aluminum surface. Shout is available in 1.34 gallon jugs...
Diluting SG is a must. Adding water lowers its' pH. Using it straight will immediately etch/stain any aluminum surface.

Shout is available in 1.34 gallon jugs at Costco. It's the cheapest I've found it. Walmart also has it in the laundry aisle.

The Shout results are best on a new bike. It won't repair any previous dulling caused by other chemicals, but it will keep a new bike looking new for longing than any other cleaner on the market.

Project racer; good thing no lexan no moto bikes lol, thanks for the reaffirmation on what CamP is saying though

CamP; never ever do I use the SG straight, unless im cleaning industrial things (house, driveway, deck, machinery, etc.), I have enough knowledge to understand that the water would lower the pH of the entire mixture, therefore deeming it probably pretty acceptable. I dont have a brand new bike atm, and my current bikes look immacualte, but like I had mentioned I will be picking the shout up as soon as I run out. Appreciate the info and recommendations my friend
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8/7/2015 11:31am
CamP wrote:
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed...
That's what every loyal SG user says, including me at one time, until you see two identical bikes side by side. One that has been washed with Shout for a year and the one that has been washed with SG for a year will look remarkably different, with the Shout bike looking noticeably better.

BTW, None of the mentioned cleaners will have a negative affect on the plastic. It's the metal surfaces that tell the story.

Just get the MSDS sheets for each cleaner. If the pH is higher than 8 or lower than 7, don't use it on your bike. most all purpose cleaners have a pH ranging from 10-14 and these will do some real damage.

The concern is great enough that the FAA has issued an advisory circular warning of care in using common alkaline cleaning agents like Simple Green, which has a pH of 9.5

BTW, I used SG for 20 years prior to discovering Shout. When you find something that works better, you change.
Another recent "Shout" convert here. I'll never go back to SG (for cleaning the bike).
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That's it. Triple Acting. White bottle/jug.

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