Wheels suggestions

GOONrider27
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Edited Date/Time 3/17/2016 7:14pm
I know there are a lot of discussions on this but I couldn't find any powder coating rims gold? I want to buy my own powder coating gun and do my Hondas rims gold. However does gold hold up? Better than black? And will it hold up for a years worth of riding? Because I was thinking with my own gun, I can just redo the rims every winter. I appreciate any responses thanks
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dogger315
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2/19/2015 8:41am
Powder coating on rims will not hold up regardless of the color. Think of powder coating as hard paint (which is what it
essentially is). I doubt the powder coating on a rim would even survive tire installation. The only part of a wheel that
can be powder coated and last is the hub.

If you want Gold rims, you're going to need anodized rims. Keep in mind that the darker the color, the worse the rim
will look in very short order. The Black rims you see on the team bikes get replaced every moto, that could get kind
of expensive if you were paying for those rims yourself.

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2/19/2015 4:11pm
You can't powder coat gold.
GOONrider27
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2/19/2015 4:26pm
Grizz wrote:
You can't powder coat gold.
I swear I saw a gold powder online. Maybe it's like a yellow

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2/19/2015 8:56pm
>>> you can try this here

maybe go for red (since it's a Honda)
hit your rims w/ some 00 steel wool
some blue painters tape and a little time

used it on my Redline mx24's handlebars & seat post, worked & looked great
2/20/2015 12:47am
Grizz wrote:
You can't powder coat gold.
Yes you can actually, we have done it on my friends lowrider hydraulic system, fairly new though from what I understood.
GOONrider27
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jmpatt79 wrote:
i want to do a set white !!!!!
White would be sweet. Surprised one the husky riders don't have a set of white in pros
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dogger315 wrote:
Powder coating on rims will not hold up regardless of the color. Think of powder coating as hard paint (which is what it essentially is). I...
Powder coating on rims will not hold up regardless of the color. Think of powder coating as hard paint (which is what it
essentially is). I doubt the powder coating on a rim would even survive tire installation. The only part of a wheel that
can be powder coated and last is the hub.

If you want Gold rims, you're going to need anodized rims. Keep in mind that the darker the color, the worse the rim
will look in very short order. The Black rims you see on the team bikes get replaced every moto, that could get kind
of expensive if you were paying for those rims yourself.

dogger
Anodizing will hold up better.

That being said, I'm not sure who has done your powder coating but they should never do it again. I have had rims powder coated many times, and it has lasted great.

If I was doing gold, I would anodize, absolutely.

For black wheels though, I have seen them last & look great for a long time.
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Spagina767 wrote:
Anodizing will hold up better. That being said, I'm not sure who has done your powder coating but they should never do it again. I have...
Anodizing will hold up better.

That being said, I'm not sure who has done your powder coating but they should never do it again. I have had rims powder coated many times, and it has lasted great.

If I was doing gold, I would anodize, absolutely.

For black wheels though, I have seen them last & look great for a long time.
I do my powder coating.

Like I said before, powder coating is nothing more than a color substrate mixed with nylon or polyester and some other
chemicals that is applied dry (without solvent). The curing phase melts the powder (flow out), and that's your coating.
It's still nothing more than a surface coating unlike anodization which is electrochemically bonded to the Aluminum.

Depending on what kind of dirt you ride on also plays a part in the coating's durability. If you have nothing but loam,
a powder coated rim will last compared to hard pack with lots of sand and/or rocks. While a properly done powder
coating should survive without chipping even on an anodized Aluminum surface, it will look like crap in short order on
the track and trails here in Cali. Same goes for Black anodized rims

Powder coating works great for car wheels (I do that all the time), motorcycle wear areas like clutch and ignition covers,
hubs, frames, etc. I still have plenty of customers that want there rims powder coated, I either convince them to get them
anodized instead or send them to another shop for powder. Most of the ones that choose the powder from the other shop
are back at my shop in a few weeks to have that powder stripped and the rims prepped for anodization.

Here are some examples of my MX specific powder coating. I've been doing it for 16 years now, but only 10 as a professional:











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Spagina767 wrote:
Anodizing will hold up better. That being said, I'm not sure who has done your powder coating but they should never do it again. I have...
Anodizing will hold up better.

That being said, I'm not sure who has done your powder coating but they should never do it again. I have had rims powder coated many times, and it has lasted great.

If I was doing gold, I would anodize, absolutely.

For black wheels though, I have seen them last & look great for a long time.
dogger315 wrote:
I do my powder coating. Like I said before, powder coating is nothing more than a color substrate mixed with nylon or polyester and some other...
I do my powder coating.

Like I said before, powder coating is nothing more than a color substrate mixed with nylon or polyester and some other
chemicals that is applied dry (without solvent). The curing phase melts the powder (flow out), and that's your coating.
It's still nothing more than a surface coating unlike anodization which is electrochemically bonded to the Aluminum.

Depending on what kind of dirt you ride on also plays a part in the coating's durability. If you have nothing but loam,
a powder coated rim will last compared to hard pack with lots of sand and/or rocks. While a properly done powder
coating should survive without chipping even on an anodized Aluminum surface, it will look like crap in short order on
the track and trails here in Cali. Same goes for Black anodized rims

Powder coating works great for car wheels (I do that all the time), motorcycle wear areas like clutch and ignition covers,
hubs, frames, etc. I still have plenty of customers that want there rims powder coated, I either convince them to get them
anodized instead or send them to another shop for powder. Most of the ones that choose the powder from the other shop
are back at my shop in a few weeks to have that powder stripped and the rims prepped for anodization.

Here are some examples of my MX specific powder coating. I've been doing it for 16 years now, but only 10 as a professional:











Well I feel dumb now. My apologies dogger.

Maybe it's because I live on the east coast, but I just have had very good luck with black powder coated rims.
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Spagina767 wrote:
Well I feel dumb now. My apologies dogger. Maybe it's because I live on the east coast, but I just have had very good luck with...
Well I feel dumb now. My apologies dogger.

Maybe it's because I live on the east coast, but I just have had very good luck with black powder coated rims.
Certainly no need for an apology, Spagina. I treat these forums as a place to exchange ideas, to help if I can
but also to learn myself.

I erred when I said "powder coated rims will not hold up regardless of the color". Your experience is proof that
statement is wrong. I should have said powder coated rims will not hold up if you ride on rock or sand infested
dirt. Like you, I still prefer anodized over powder coated, but I will keep a more open mind in regards to the
possibility of powder.

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2/20/2015 11:12am
2 different head height m8 fork lug bolts in that last pic dogger.

unacceptable.

unacceptable.
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Mr Dogger, I hate to jump into an old post, but I have a question about powder coating hubs. Do you mask off the spoke holes? Specifically the small area where the head of the spoke seats. I was going to have some hubs PC'd but don't like the idea of the softer coating between the spoke head and hub. Seems it could cause a problem keeping the spokes tight. Maybe I'm crazy because I've been looking at the way people PC hubs and haven't seen any mention of it. Thoughts, anyone?


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I had hubs powder coated white and did not have them mask the spoke holes. The wheels built up great and worked fine for 2 years. I will say, it was tight sliding some of the spokes through while building them up. Based on my experience I wouldn't worry about it unless you have some hubs with crazy tight tolerance on the bores for the spokes. In my case they were yamaha hubs that worked out fine.
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You can ask who ever does your PC to use plugs on the spoke holes. Ideally, you want them raw as thet is how they are designed. Torquing spokes will give the powder an area to begin cracking and chipping.

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