Hinson Clutch Kit Differences.

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7/31/2015 12:39 PM
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Does anyone know what the difference is in these two kits besides the material of the basket? The descriptions are pretty much the same. The kit on the left is $45 more.

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7/31/2015 2:30 PM

The Momentum clutch basket is made from different material and weighs more then the Billeproof basket thus the extra cost..

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8/1/2015 6:54 AM

IMO, the "momentum" basket would mimic the effects of a flywheel weight without dicking around on that side of the engine.

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8/2/2015 4:56 AM
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The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

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8/2/2015 6:10 AM

I'd skip the hinson and go with the rekluse manual set up or the torque drive. They use 6 springs unlike the stock or hinson that uses 5. The steel plates are also different with the rekluse in that they don't drag on the inner hub as much resulting in smoother clutch action.

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8/2/2015 8:25 AM

DJS721 wrote:

The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

"MIMIC" - MxKing809

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8/2/2015 5:03 PM

DJS721 wrote:

The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

How is it not the same effect???

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8/2/2015 6:18 PM
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DJS721 wrote:

The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

BobPA wrote:

How is it not the same effect???

Well technically IF you're slipping the clutch the full force from your crank output shaft wouldn't be transferred to the basket..... but he's missed the point of A rotating mass either from the inner basket and steel plates OR a flywheel weight .... same damn thing. And the outer basket would basically do the same thing. I made sure I added BASICALLY in there.... would basically mimic the effect...... whew.

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8/3/2015 4:48 PM

DJS721 wrote:

The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

BobPA wrote:

How is it not the same effect???

Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.

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8/3/2015 5:40 PM

DJS721 wrote:

The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

BobPA wrote:

How is it not the same effect???

Matt Fisher wrote:

Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.

Please explain how a fully engaged clutch which is attached to the crank output shaft spins 4 times slower.......

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8/3/2015 5:50 PM

DJS721 wrote:

The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...

BobPA wrote:

How is it not the same effect???

Matt Fisher wrote:

Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.

Bingo Matt, thanks for explaining more clearly. The real advantage is wear and tear, the steel basket MIMIC's the KTM design with regards to material.

The forged basket is the strongest aluminum design, as compared to the billet aluminum baskets (or stock die cast). Seen too many OEM and billet tangs notched in one season of riding, the forged basket will not. Barnett has a solution, Wiseco has lifetime guarantee

Best to make an informed decision RoflCopter is asking the right questions, that's a lot of cabbage and you don't want to spend it twice


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8/6/2015 1:51 AM

MxKing809 wrote:

Please explain how a fully engaged clutch which is attached to the crank output shaft spins 4 times slower.......

please explain to me which bike has a clutch basket attached directly to the crank? primary gear>basket primary>basket secondary>idler>kick its not quite 4:1 on the basket but maybe 2.5:1 and the steel basket does not IN MY EXPERIENCE have as noticeable an effect as a flywheel weight, although the steel construction has helped many a privateer make it through a few seasons without destroying major clutch components.

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8/6/2015 5:02 AM

Matt Fisher wrote:

Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.

MxKing809 wrote:

Please explain how a fully engaged clutch which is attached to the crank output shaft spins 4 times slower.......

DTHA70 wrote:

please explain to me which bike has a clutch basket attached directly to the crank? primary gear>basket primary>basket secondary>idler>kick its not quite 4:1 on the basket but maybe 2.5:1 and the steel basket does not IN MY EXPERIENCE have as noticeable an effect as a flywheel weight, although the steel construction has helped many a privateer make it through a few seasons without destroying major clutch components.

Husqvarna 449/511.. Just sayin!