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I recently bought a new two stroke 2015 250 and with maybe 10 hours on the bike its a nightmare. Bike will run perfect for 2 hours sometimes sometimes 5 hours sometimes 1 hour and then all of a sudden it will run horrible. Poppin and back firing and just bad. Have changed stator coil pack an cdi and it still will do it. Carb is clean and reed cage is perfect. If ANYONE has had this please help.
The YZ250 is so simple, not much can cause that kind of thing. It sure sounds like you have an electrical component heating up and failing intermittently.
Electrical issues can be very odd and very expensive if you just throw parts at it. You really need to have someone troubleshoot the issue at the track when the bike is warm. Intermittent electrical issues are extremely tough to find.
A few years ago I unloaded my '08 YZ125 at the track, started it and let it warm up while I put on my gear. Shut the engine off with the kill button after a few revs to clear it out. Same routine I do every practice day. Poured in some fuel, put on my helmet and goggles and the bike just wouldn't start. I didn't get to ride that day. When I got home I checked resistance through the ignition coil windings, the crank-trigger and the stator coil. Turned out the winding on the stator was bad.
More odd electrical stuff... That same 125 was spec'd with a #9 plug. I was running a #8 plug and not changing it out very often. Two winters in a row I showed up at a winter race (cold and dry air) and the bike started sputtering and missing bad. The extra heat finally killed those #8 plugs. Needless to say I run the #9 in my current YZ125.
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most electrical issues I see now a days are pickup coils and the way you explain this popping miss firing sound like timing. I also agree with earlier reply small amount of water laying in fuel tank. look real close in the carb for small pieces of debris, pull all the jets and needle valve don't cut corners, look for water in the harnest from power washing causing a ground short, spray with WD40 a blow out with comp. air. lastly and a far shot but look at the rotor is it touching the stator, usually a bad crank bearing. disconnect kill button till diagnosed
Did you say the wiring harnest was replaced? I dough the rotor will fix this, brand new stator out of the box?
If your fuel quality is good engine is in proper spec. including reeds, no fancy vent hose on the fuel cap. I'm sticking with pickup coil or pulled wire in the harnest creating resistance and reducing a/c voltage output to box.
But then about 15 hours later the same thing happened again. So this time I brought the stator to my local dealer and they tested it and they said it was fine. I didn't believe them so I ordered another stator, and I also ordered a wiring harness.
I then put dialectical grease on all the connectors. I never had a problem since then. I think it's a water issue that is happening.
Not really sure thought because I've had a 2005, 2009, and 2011 yz250 and never had an issue.
This 2015 has been a nightmare though. I came to conclusion my bike was made on a Friday night haha and is a lemon.
I would order a new stator and harness and grease everything up
On my 2006 YZ250, the bike would rip if you ran it through the gears on flat ground. As soon as you went on the track and tried to accelerate over stutter or gassing it as the bike does a G-out into the face of a jump it would start burbling/bogging. Really annoying, dangerous, and frustrating as hell to troubleshoot.
This was all when I first bought the bike in 2011. The previous owner had allowed it to sit for 2 or 3 years with pump gas and Castor-927 in the carb. The carb had obvious varnish and corrosion on the brass parts. I replaced everything that could be replaced and cleaned everything that could be cleaned. There are 2 parts in particular that are a PITA. First, the special O-ring under the jet block. This part is unobtainable and if it leaks will allow air/gas leakage past the pilot and main jets. Second, the small rubber tip on the power-jet solenoid plunger. It's a piece of rubber about the size of a grain of rice and it is not sold separately. If the bike sits, it can get stuck in it's orifice or gummed up. When you try to pull it out to clean it it rips off. Now the power jet will not properly seal and will allow gas to leak intermittently. Your choice is to spend a bunch of money on a replacement solenoid assembly. Also, there are some extremely small passages in the carb that are near impossible to clean out, like the one that angles up into the throat in front of the slide. I believe this is a "starter jet" or bleed for initial starting.
Research indicates that when castor oil breaks down it turns into stearic acid and stearic acid is particularly corrosive to brass. Not a good thing to have sitting in your carb.
Ultimately, I ended up buying a new carb. Retail is like $650 and they go online for about $450. The dirty pieces of junk on ebay go for about $175 but then you might be getting something worse than you already have. I was lucky to score a NITB one for $170.
Just some more info on a source of intermittent poor running that is difficult to troubleshoot.
I don't have a Yamaha, but majority of the time I've switched to use hose and I gently spray near any electrical. I think all these modern bikes are too sensitive for high power pressure washers.
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