16 KTM Dream Build- Round 3

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Hey guys, I've been on and off the bike the last 8 months with shoulder problems. Just coming back from surgery 3 months ago that left me with tons of extra time.

I started by rebuilding my 16 250 SX-F.

High comp piston from Twisted Development , head work, Vortex ignition and VP T4. Pushing close to 50hp!



I got skid plate tabs and steering stabilizer tabs welded on before powdercoat.

We tested the bike with Ricky Diaz and ML512. Video and write up coming soon!

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Some engine details. I upgraded to the new alloy engine mounts and had them coated to look like carbon.

Rear master cylinder coated and has the sight glass capped.



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This brings me to the 125 talk. So I came across a good deal on the 16 125 with 30 hours. They seem to be very hard hours, Hahhaha. Since I have another 4 weeks until I can ride, I tore the bike down and got the powdercoat done.



ik going to take better photos tomorrow. But this will at least get things started!


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For the most part they will be similar. But I have some leftover plastics and graphics that I will use in the meantime. But down the road they will have the same graphics kit as well.
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Cool stuff:-)
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Damn Joe...looks like a sweet project $$$$$$. Hope you have not taken to working the streets to get the $$$$$$ for the buildWhistling
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Tim507 wrote:
Damn Joe...looks like a sweet project $$$$$$. Hope you have not taken to working the streets to get the $$$$$$ for the buildWhistling
Your mind plays games with you when you can't ride for 4 months! My wallet would definitely be thicker if I wasn't injured!

I gotta take some detail photos this week.
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Tim507 wrote:
Damn Joe...looks like a sweet project $$$$$$. Hope you have not taken to working the streets to get the $$$$$$ for the buildWhistling
Your mind plays games with you when you can't ride for 4 months! My wallet would definitely be thicker if I wasn't injured! I gotta take...
Your mind plays games with you when you can't ride for 4 months! My wallet would definitely be thicker if I wasn't injured!

I gotta take some detail photos this week.
Not injured..... however our dirt cycles ARE money pits for sureWoohooCool

I just bought another 350 .... this one is a XCF....dedicated to off road..... suspension, recluse, bib mousses ...etc..... the fun never stops
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All I can say is....Wow !
10/23/2016 6:58pm
Was the primary cover and water pump on your 250sxf coated grey in cerakote?
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Beautiful attention to detail. These bikes come apart really easy imo.
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Was the primary cover and water pump on your 250sxf coated grey in cerakote?
Yeah I had Moto Whips do the side cover, ignition cover and water pump in grey. Then I met Clayton from Trick Eng. he did my calipers in bronze along with the mounts in black. Clayton also capped the sight glass on the rear master cylinder. (Old photo, but you can see the ignition cover)

I scored a few team parts, these orange radiator louvers, carbon guard and also a full Orange airbox for both bikes!


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Moto520 wrote:
Beautiful attention to detail. These bikes come apart really easy imo.
Man the 125 is literally the easiest motorcycle I've ever taken apart. It's like working on a downhill mountain bike. The cost and simplicity of 2 strokes are really getting me excited about them!
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Moto520 wrote:
Beautiful attention to detail. These bikes come apart really easy imo.
Man the 125 is literally the easiest motorcycle I've ever taken apart. It's like working on a downhill mountain bike. The cost and simplicity of 2...
Man the 125 is literally the easiest motorcycle I've ever taken apart. It's like working on a downhill mountain bike. The cost and simplicity of 2 strokes are really getting me excited about them!
The only pain is the electrical crap. That stuff is hard to get perfect especially on the 2016 450f
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My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to Derek Harris at Harris Performance about getting his head and cams and maybe a big bore kit. My bike with these mods and tuning made 50hp/25lbft torque on pump gas...U4.4 should pick up 2hp.

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10/24/2016 3:46pm
davbrucas wrote:
My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to...
My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to Derek Harris at Harris Performance about getting his head and cams and maybe a big bore kit. My bike with these mods and tuning made 50hp/25lbft torque on pump gas...U4.4 should pick up 2hp.

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Its not about higher hp, its about how efficiently and easily you can use that hp.
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davbrucas wrote:
My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to...
My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to Derek Harris at Harris Performance about getting his head and cams and maybe a big bore kit. My bike with these mods and tuning made 50hp/25lbft torque on pump gas...U4.4 should pick up 2hp.

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No we didn't dyno with stock, but the baseline 250sxf is 40-42 depending on the dyno. My engine is pretty maxed out if I want it reliable. It's got more than enough with the work for Twisted Development. Gaining 5-7+ hp with stock bore. Besides high end bearings it's a very similar package to privateer 250 guys like Dakota Alex.
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davbrucas wrote:
My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to...
My 16 250sxf lost 2hp across the board with the FMF exhaust. Did you dyno yours with stock and then the FMF? You should talk to Derek Harris at Harris Performance about getting his head and cams and maybe a big bore kit. My bike with these mods and tuning made 50hp/25lbft torque on pump gas...U4.4 should pick up 2hp.

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Its not about higher hp, its about how efficiently and easily you can use that hp.
And this is the best part of what they do with the bikes at Twisted. They map the air fuel over every 10% of the throttle movement. The bike is insanely crisp and responsive at every part of the throttle.
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It's a sweet looking bike and I'm sure it hauls ass. I'd be interested to see how your bike would compare with the Bills Pipe exhaust I have.

My bike's dyno on pump gas.

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Thanks man! The biggest thing I notice with your dyno map is the curve wobbling.
Here's a side by side after the ecu mapping is done. My bike literally keeps pulling until the rev limiter at 14k!


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Awesome Builds!! Can you take that good race fuel off the cold floor and put a piece of wood under them. Cans sitting on cold outdoor floor = water in fuel.
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sesker15 wrote:
Awesome Builds!! Can you take that good race fuel off the cold floor and put a piece of wood under them. Cans sitting on cold outdoor...
Awesome Builds!! Can you take that good race fuel off the cold floor and put a piece of wood under them. Cans sitting on cold outdoor floor = water in fuel.
The ones on the bottom are emptyEvil

But man, so I've been reading online about a bunch of KTM 17 2 strokes with reed issues. I decided to check mine for shits and gigs...Boom, one of the pedals is warped pretty bad. Decent size gap there.

There's nothing aftermarket yet and the OEM replacements are back order. The only thing is I had to order a whole cage set up.

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This is some sick stuff going on CarlinoJoe.
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Why is there these issues with the KTM reeds? Aren't they just normal V-Force 3(or 4?) reeds?
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Motofinne wrote:
Why is there these issues with the KTM reeds? Aren't they just normal V-Force 3(or 4?) reeds?
I guess most guys are having issues with the new reed cage not having a flat surface. In my case the cage was OK but reed was warped. Maybe my issue was just from time on the bike?

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