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I saw Cagiva has made a 500 mx bike and wondering if someone had tried this and how it was like and that must be a rare bike and hard to find I think?
It was suprisingly "Maicoish" in its ergo's and how it handled. An Ohlins shock did a decent job in the rear but the front forks were wimpy Marozochi units that benefited from the adddition of a Terry Kit but even that didnt fix their flexiness.
The motor was a tourquey monster that pulled strongly off the bottom with a good midrange but then signed off pretty early on top. Short shifting and using the gobs of bottom end was the order of the day.
I enjoyed riding it and they sold a lot of the 125's that year ( I think they won the 125 GP class for a couple years) and the 250's had potential as well. There were some fast guys on em locally for a while and I think it was Brian McElroy and maybe another rider was on a team doin sx and outdoor nats out of Fla .
I think they coulda been a decent bike with more development but I believe the Cagiva/Husky /Ducati partnership ran into finacial trouble which closed that chapter in mx history.
Never saw any other 500's around here other than that one so Id say there werent that many brought over. For sure it would stand out at your local vintage race in the evo class.
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Kevin Politte here
Yes Myself and my Partners at Action Sport Cycles out of Fort Lauderdale ran the SE race team for Cagiva North America.
The team consisted of
Brian McElroy, Kevin Foley, Alan Andrew, Tom Rice, Vince Devane, Earl May, Doug Solelether, and a few others.The team ran the Fla Winter series and limited nationals and Supercross events. Brian McElroy had the most success by winning motos and took 2nd place at the Daytona SX in 1988. He missed qualifying in the 250 class at Daytona the same year by 1 position. He would of been the first to qualify in both classes. Years later it was I believe Tod Dehoop who was the first to qualify in both classes at a single SX. Alan Andrew holeshot a moto at Gainseville beating Hannah at the start. The 125's and the 250's were as good as any once we got them dialed in thanks to Woddy Kyle racing and efforts with Cagiva North America and Action Sport Cycles's.
I did ride a customers's 500 back in 1987
It had monster motor and was not as developed as the 125/250's
They came stock with White power upside down front forks and Ohliens rear shock
I rode the bikes from 1986 to 1989 and won some FTR events and place in the top 3 overall a couple years.
Here is a picture of McElroy, Hannah and the mini Goat at Dade City 1988 Winter Series Podium.
Kevin Politte
I dont recall the others.
Mike Larocco was in Brians 125 class and Brian beat him in the series
If you ever find one - buy it.
I just brought one of these old girls, Time to start chasing parts for rebuilding. Looking forward to riding it.
Hi!
Thanks for your input here. Want to confirm a couple of points:
- what was the model run, first year last year? What do you reckon was the number of imported 500s?
- did 500 come with up side WP in 87, or did you mean the smaller bikes did so? What size tubes?
- did you only ride a 500 in 87, or 88/89 as well?
- do you know anybody who still rides one?
Great pic!
Kevin
Pit Row
I too spent LOTS of time on Cagivas as well.
In fact was also involved at Action Sport Cycle in Ft. Lauderdale between late '83-early '86.
I worked there part time.....ok I was kinda the shop rat!!! I did a little wrenching, selling,sweeping....... I bought my '84 WMX250 (200) and raced many FTR hare scrambles as well as mx at the old Ft. Lauderdale stadium track as well as others.
I loved the 200 but the 500 made a lasting impression, up to that point my biggest race bike was the 200. The 500 was a gentle giant loads of low end torque, big vibes and really soft suspension (they didn't call it "soft damp" for nuthin) I do seem to remember that I used Yamaha yz490 pistons, Suzuki rm500 clutch plates, rear sprockets and Honda cr air filters when the parts started drying up. Alas she's long gone, sold her back in 1990 (the 200 was sold when I moved to Ohio in '86)
I do know that my 500 was one of 3 1985 500's that we had, One was used by one of the owners (Howard Swinnerton) that was the one I ended up with, one went to a friend of mine Joe Mason from Boca Raton and I can't remember who got the other one but I seem to remember it broke a rod and destroyed the cases not long after the guy got it. and I think Cagiva actually warrantied that motor!!
Other than the kickstarter breaking and the chain adjusters bending like they where made of butter my bike was pretty reliable. Great bikes, great memories.............
Jeff
It was tough to kick over maybe thats why they broke kickstarts. As mentioned before the forks let it down, soft flexy wimpy things but the motor was a monster. With a lightly built teenager on board the thing would flip straight over backwards in any gear if you gave it too much throttle. I read a few articles saying it put out the most power of any production 500 and I can believe it. Big size and weight made it hard work to get round a track fast on. Check out the factory Cagiva Arai helmet!!!
I rode lots of other Cagivas from 81 - 87 125's and 250's. Still have a nice red 82 wmx125 in the shed, never ride though as its pretty much impossible to fix if it breaks.
I also turned my Yamaha 250F into a Cagiva a few years ago- lol it was amazing how many people thought Cagiva were making new bikes again-
the rest and got XR600 disks for example.
I wonder if the piston of the talking that serves the YZ 490 of 82-83 or 84 -90 so read are different those years?
thanks a Latin American friend Uruguay
Good luck
Post some pictures of your bike if you can, I would love to see it.
Jeff
the dheight had very good understanding that only served on the 83.
Im a 20 year old living in Northern California working for the Marine Corps in the Anti-terrorism BTN as a infantryman. I go to college and i restore bikes on my free time, i mostly stick to streetbikes/cafe racers but i could not pass this one up.
The WMX 500 is a 85' and about the 490th one made. it has very low miles on it and i believe it was purchased, ridden a few times and stored out of fear and i understand why after taking this torque packed beast for a test ride. I am having the seat temporally re-upholstered so i can ride it till i order a original Cagavi seat with logo. keep this thread going gents WMX owners are a shrinking group. Daniel Bonjour can you post some pics bud? ill be sure to post a lot and quadruple the amount of pics online and put out all the info i can find on this monster as i learn
Some interesting things i have learned and would like to know is...
This bike runs best on 1/32 mix and premium gas, it has a coil so you can put lights on it but i still need to use the meter tomorrow to determine how many volts it puts out. I would also like to know if someone can find me the exact color for the fairings and the frame. Its power is mostly dedicated to low end but the high gear is very 'spread ( learned this from a Cagavi fanatic ) Does anyone know the size of the throttle cable? and do you mind posting you serial number ( located on the frame between the forks )?
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This is the bike minus the seat because its being worked on, if you own a WMX500 and dont care about keeping it original and you replace the rear fender think about sending it to me im looking to restore this to 100% what it looked like the day it came from the dealer. Ill wait a bit to spend the money and time buying the rear fender. ( i have all the plastics they are just not on there )
I will be posting more pictures of every angle, nook and cranny of this bike so keep checking in and join and post to let me know your interested!!! Also if you have pics of you on this bike or any old pics so i can some more angles on the original have anymore.Stooperbike?
I am also restoring a 1969 Bridgestone TMX 100 and always looking for new projects!!!
If you have any questions about the WMX that you would like to me research/ ask my contacts ask me on here so we can all learn together and if ypu have questions about my other bikes or personal questions email me a chase_petley@hotmail.com
Also if anyone has a manual for this bike consider sending it to me so i can scan every page and upload it for everyone!!!
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