And another RM 465

johanfl
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I just picked up a RM 465 today.
My brother donated it for free.
Back in '82 we bought two RM 465's late in season for very good price, i think we paid $2000.
And we got the standard shock replaced with Öhlins for that price so it was a pretty good deal back then.
We raced them until '86 and then i left racing and sold all my bikes.
But my brother kept his bike and has had in storage since '86, he hasn't started it since then.
I just gave it a wash to clean out the dust and the mud from the last ride in '86 and i turned over the piston very gently, i expected it to be seized or rusted solid.
To my surprice it felt smooth! Not a hint of stichion, and very good compression. It felt like new.
So i checked ot the linkage, silky smooth! And the fork too.
It's amazing how well it's been preserved, everything works.
Of course i will tear it down and repaint the frame, lube all the bearings and replace some plastic that has gone dull.
I will tear down the engine too and replace all the seals, i bet the crankshaft seal would blow if i tried to start the engine.
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Wandell
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That looks like a heck of a starting platform. Sweet!
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johanfl
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Yes, i hope so, some new plastic, paint the frame, service the shock. Maybe some emulators from race Tech for the fork.
New seals in the engine and a new piston and off i go....
Hmmm, maybe i have to check the spring ratetes on the suspension too.. somehow i mysteriesly added som weight to my body without me noticing that..
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rodb
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7/29/2011 5:39pm
you are a lucky man!! im almost done with my 84 rm 250. post picture soon(i hope)
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You know, you could add some USD forks off a modern bike and make a Brad Lackey replica. Just sayin'.

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johanfl
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7/30/2011 2:17pm
@Wandell.
I could do that, but then i have to find one. That's not easy plus i would cost me some more money.
And then i think that wouldn't be allowed if i want to race in the EVO class.
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johanfl
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The tank cushins were all rotten and also the outher filter in the airbox.
I peeked in the cylinder when i took off the exhaust and the piston seems to be in great shape, there was a thin oil film covering the piston, amazing after 23 years.



A bit of magnesium corrosion
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7/31/2011 3:18pm Edited Date/Time 7/31/2011 3:21pm
I paid $1800.00 for my RM465. Back in 1981. I hate to say but a good rider could beat a rider on cr450 4 stroke.
8/1/2011 7:14pm
croom mx wrote:
I paid $1800.00 for my RM465. Back in 1981. I hate to say but a good rider could beat a rider on cr450 4 stroke.
Puff, puff, pass.
johanfl
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New piston & ring, NOS.


Not too much carbon buildup.


Reeds look fine.


A little blowby.




The head.


Couldn't feel any edge where the piston turns.




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8/11/2011 8:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/11/2011 8:35pm
I've got my 465 completely apart. The tranny looks good but the crank needs a rebuild. I checked with Suzuki about the rod and they aren't available. But my dealer told me the computer showed one in stock at a dealership in Idaho of all places. So I called them and it was still in stock so I bought it. Pretty good find. Other than that mine doesn't have stripped bolt on it. It should be an easy project.
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8/18/2011 4:25pm
Any idea why one of these bikes would run great one minute then the next totally fall off on the top end? I went through the carb already and don't see any problems there.
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Funny, i can't remember that the RM 465 had an erractic behaivor when i raced it back in the days.
I had/have a 82 model, maybe the 81 are more troublesome.
I got a couple of tips from another forum:

"look at the expansion pipe about half way along the pipe under the tank and if you look closely you will see spot weld marks. If you hacksaw the pipe in half either just infront or behind these welds you will see the plate inside the pipe,remove it and weld pipe up again and it will pull much better. If you want further power then make a 5 mm alloy spacer the same shape as the reed block gasket and fit it to the barrel before you fit the reed block and then build the rest as normal.
You will feel a big change in the power"
8/20/2011 7:53pm Edited Date/Time 8/20/2011 7:57pm
One of the problems the RM465's had was an overly restrictive airbox. No amount of jetting was very successful until a WP or Twin Air box was installed. This made all the difference in the way the RM ran, and jetting became much easier.

Most reed spacers will shift the torque peak lower in the RPM range, but will actually show a loss in peak horsepower numbers.
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Hi. Would the 1982 PE 175 sidepanels fit the RM:s 1981-1982 ?
The shape of the numberplate is little more square on the PE:s sidepanels and look like RM factory panels of that time.

//Johan
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1/17/2012 2:46pm
edgo897 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/18470/photos/55286/s1600_DSCN1116.jpg?1326839271[/img] Ed


Ed
Well, if that works for you. I had one of those rear fender/number plate combos on my 1980 YZ125 and when I look at those pics today, well...I just cringe! Sick

Not being hateful, but the bike would look better with side panels...any side panels! Grinning
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I always thought they looked cool, but to each his own I guess. I have a 1980 RM250 that I restored with stock panels so I thought I'd try something different with this project.

Anyone know a good way to get the stickers of the tank? They are really cemented on.

Ed
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edgo897 wrote:
I always thought they looked cool, but to each his own I guess. I have a 1980 RM250 that I restored with stock panels so I...
I always thought they looked cool, but to each his own I guess. I have a 1980 RM250 that I restored with stock panels so I thought I'd try something different with this project.

Anyone know a good way to get the stickers of the tank? They are really cemented on.

Ed
When done up right I agree that the rear fender/number plates look cool. I will try to find you a picture. My uncle had a RM 465 with a yellow M Robert rear fender/number plate. He made his own yellow mini sidepanels to cover the area under the seat. Sort of like what the KX's had. With those and Fox Air shocks it was one of the trickets looking bikes I'd ever seen
johanfl
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5/31/2012 11:19am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2012 11:21am
So...
i haven't really getting anywhere yet since last time.
I got held up by another restuaration project.. sort of..
Wifey suggested that we should make a small uppgrade of the kitchen. Nothing fancy.
So we went from this..


To this..


And ended up with this..

And while i was at it, why not do the same with the bathroom and hallway :-)

Anyway, i scored a set of 1984 forks and DLS brakes and wheel.
So here you can see the difference between the 82 forks and the 84 forks.
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JB65
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5/31/2012 10:15pm
Only on a Vintage forum could it take a left turn to a fitted kitchen,
"Oh I like that " I mutter at the low level lighting,
Good job,
Now she's taken care of can we see more of the yellow mistress in the garage please ?
jb.
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johanfl
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5/31/2012 11:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/31/2012 11:58pm
It's like Nascar. " Oh! They are making a left turn!" Woohoo
About the PE sidepanels.
I found a guy who fitted them to his Rm 465, he said he only had to do a bracket, can't remember witch side but other that that they fitted perfectly. And Marc at Fullfloater.com said the same, they fit.


But the stickers on the tank, how the hell to get them off?
What's the trick? I sit there peeling the stickers one millimeter at the time, it will take forever to get them off.
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TerryK
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6/2/2012 10:52am
Nice. I wouldn't put that nice piston in there before I replaced the crank bearings and seals. After over 20 years of sitting, I guarantee you that the seals are dried up and the bearings are toast.
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6/4/2012 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 6/4/2012 12:41pm
johanfl wrote:
It's like Nascar. " Oh! They are making a left turn!" :woohoo: About the PE sidepanels. I found a guy who fitted them to his Rm...
It's like Nascar. " Oh! They are making a left turn!" Woohoo
About the PE sidepanels.
I found a guy who fitted them to his Rm 465, he said he only had to do a bracket, can't remember witch side but other that that they fitted perfectly. And Marc at Fullfloater.com said the same, they fit.


But the stickers on the tank, how the hell to get them off?
What's the trick? I sit there peeling the stickers one millimeter at the time, it will take forever to get them off.
I like the PE side plates a lot. I had a floater PE. I bet the 465 weighs less.
Does anyone know what rear fender on that 465? It has the factory shape from what I can see.
I'm not a fan of the rear fender number plates, other than the 82/83 KX and maybe a 82 Husky .

Do you guys really feel the air box is restrictive? Even with the 2 filters?
It would be trick to mount 98 rm 49mm conventionals
The only tricky part would be to mount a brake stay for the backing plate

Are you going to tap a idle screw into the carb? No idle was the dumbest idea ever

I can cut you a deal on the Black Ops Moto ignition coil to help the big RM light up easier . It will give a bigger mid range pull but I'm thinking that is something that isnt a big concern for this bike.

I can't imagine how good the rear is on that bike with a Ohlins shock in there.

Your kitchen came out great . The kick lighting is nice. I may be afraid in my house to run that because it would highlight the crumbs on the floor and the hair balls from the dog.
What are you doing with your Hitachi planer in that pic ? .
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Ahh, lots of questions ;-)
I haven't seen the "works" rear fender anywhere else than on the works bikes.
I know Jan Geobers in Belgium have them, would be nice to have one but not essential.
I think i'll just stick to make everything working as it should first before make any ímprovments.
Maybe a Race tech emulator in the forks to balance up the front end.
Thats a friend of mine removing the residue from the old floor panels with the planer.
I put in underfloor heating.
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edgo897 wrote:
I always thought they looked cool, but to each his own I guess. I have a 1980 RM250 that I restored with stock panels so I...
I always thought they looked cool, but to each his own I guess. I have a 1980 RM250 that I restored with stock panels so I thought I'd try something different with this project.

Anyone know a good way to get the stickers of the tank? They are really cemented on.

Ed
wpark89 wrote:
When done up right I agree that the rear fender/number plates look cool. I will try to find you a picture. My uncle had a RM...
When done up right I agree that the rear fender/number plates look cool. I will try to find you a picture. My uncle had a RM 465 with a yellow M Robert rear fender/number plate. He made his own yellow mini sidepanels to cover the area under the seat. Sort of like what the KX's had. With those and Fox Air shocks it was one of the trickets looking bikes I'd ever seen
Really keen to see this photo if you can post it thanks
6/8/2020 10:06am
Hello I just built a 1982 Rm465 flat tracker my clymer Manuel is missing the timing portion how do I set the ignition timing?

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