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Pretty rare piece here. Upswept pipe, "wish-bone" downtube. Maybe somewhat of a factory Honda offered to "support" racers?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Honda-CR-125-Elsinore/264088436645?hash=i…
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Honda-CR-125-Elsinore/264088436645?hash=i…
Gotta love how the seller is playing stupid about the center port engine and I also see the front forks have been modded below the axle. Are those pinch bolts in the axle bosses?
Several years back there was a 76-78 with center port pics making the rounds on the net and Mark's Swapmeet for sale. It was also always listed with vague descriptions there and on ebay. Guessing someone had some cylinders cast with a center port exhaust and are trying to come in under the radar and sell them as rare birds. Pretty cool stuff though, I like it.
Sure seems like a lot of work to cast a center-port for "replica" bike and then there's the wish-bone down tube.
I don't think Scott Steiger went through that much hassle for his builds......and those fetch around $8k?
You need this bike Joe!!!
The Shop
I measured a 74 case set and compared to the 79/80 set I have. The newer set has a wider intake foot print, so not a bolt on affair, Fin spacing looks like a 76-78 cylinder. I will say some one has done a great job on this bike.
Realize the frame had to be modified to accommodate the motor change. This too was top notch! Makes you wonder why they left the stock swing arm on the bike. Heck, even a lowly novice such as I was able to break the stock arm.
Would like more detail when YOU buy this Newman.....I can make a slot to hide it here if need be. No Charge!!
I think Joe is on it........he's keeping a low-profile then....BAMM!! "Auction has ended"
A friend of mine paid huge money for a mugen cylinder, bead blasted it to refinish and a couple fins fell off. Yep, bondo'd on. Amazing how much better it worked when he had them welded back on.
It's just Tuesday evening. He can take all those Christmas gifts back, hit a few pawn shops with some wrenches and hammers, he will have more than enough funds by the end of the sale Friday.....
I fully expect complete technical debrief with engineering prints and details. Assume he will have it restored and "presentable" by Christmas Eve!
Textbook Newmann!!!!!
If he can get out of his Mom's basement long enough.
Looks like the seller just posted the reserve price and BIN price in the comments but I don't see a BIN option in the listing.
The center port MS bike was a real factory effort. Legend says that some "connected" people had access to that style engine (read RICH people) from Honda. The center port future bike to replace MS's bike was already being developed. I can't remember right now what that bike was called (RC Type II?) but a few magazines had stories about it in 77.
Anyway, so the story goes on that a local wealthy new car dealership owner had the means to acquire one or more.
Mid-Ohio National was held in Lexington Ohio for years. The nearest large town, Mansfield, was home to Pete Weidner Pontiac. Pete's son apparently rode (I have no citation for this) and some say his dad got him a center port bike/engine/frame or some combination of that.
The story goes on that the center port bike was found many years later in a pile at a bike salvage yard there in Mansfield. That bike may have been the same one you are mentioning in your earlier post Joe that was on Mark's page some years ago.
I know this bike has a regular Honda VIN on the steering stem. The cylinder looked legit to me, no bondo or such. And, yes, there is a pinch bolt in the fork lower.
And just as a disclaimer to my speculation above, like I said, I have no firsthand knowledge of the legend/lore. I only know what I saw when it was in my shop. It's a beautiful bike regardless. Very unique for sure.
YMMV
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Mark was a good rider.
Raced a bunch of hare scrambles at mid ohio in 76/77 Mark usually overalled them..always on a big bore
He did ride the 76 250 support at mid ohio on a hoosk.
If that engine was in any of the 4 area to mansfield I would have got it 89-94
Buy it mikee
Pit Row
The ACTUAL Marty Smith cylinder looks nothing like this copy.
Someone couldn’t commit and ended up paying an extra 400?
https://www.smartcycleguide.com/L49472168
the one i posted is close to me. maybe i will message them and if they reply i might go look at it just to try and see exactly what it might be. i would have bought the 74 that was recently posted on here if it was closer to me.
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