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Here is one I met two weeks ago in Samoa. What is the difference between this and the ones you have?
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Your watching a movie. That’s all we are doing. Watching a big movie. When we die it could be like if the power goes out in a movie theatre. Darkness. Nothing.
Or if could be a gateway to the afterlife.....
What’s not to understand about that hypothesis ?
Like tannerite. Seperate it is waiting for the Big Bang. But together it becomes the Big Bang....
What do you think?
I am not pretending to have a grasp on this just offering some thought. Here are a couple of verses that seem to support this idea from a biblical perspective:
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee,....
Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,.....
Jesus' prayer just before heading to the cross:
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Maybe outer space is just like plasma in a larger organism. Just like the earth and space is so big beyond comprehension and the stars and galaxies are like molecules or Micro micro organisms that make up a larger organism. Ha it is mind blowing to fathom. So interesting that life can form overnight in a cup of water in the form of algae.
Life doesn't form from nothing. It becomes more apparent because the algae, that was already there, multiplies.
I think that from the perspective of eternity (which we can not grasp, but would be God's perspective) the physical resurrection and the restoration have already occurred. Think of it like we are in a sorta (time out) at the moment, but the opposite as we have actually been placed into the constraints of time.
Most people think of eternity like infinity or the longest possible future time, however it would also be the longest possible past time. It is the full picture in an instant.
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Nor is it the purpose of our time on earth to earn our position in eternity, Earth was intended for eternity (heaven and Earth were joined) until sin entered in, thus the (time out--in"). There is nothing required of us, and that is part of the good news (gospel) also that is an aspect of faith.
These are deep questions and I am not trying to argue these views to anyone, just offering them up for discussion. It is also difficult to address these questions thoroughly on a forum. It requires a book.
What has become the ordinary use of the word faith is not the meaning of the word at all (as used by the historical authors). It is not my personal definition, but the intended definition of the authors.The foundational meaning. Now you could argue that meaning evolves and changes, and it certainly does in some ways, but if we do not have a foundation to hold to then everything becomes pointless and there is no method by which to establish anything science or otherwise.
Similar to the way language may be parsed to a level of truth that is unknown. Which is why when most religious texts are parsed far enough they don't necessarily contradict science. However most religious leaders (especially the loudest ones) are not interested in supporting a very open interpretation of the writings. Thus we have those that believe religion and evolution of man cannot exist at the same time.
Also your statement: "However most religious leaders (especially the loudest ones) are not interested in supporting a very open interpretation of the writings."
While i don't necessarily disagree with this the same exact statement could be made about science:
However most scientific leaders (especially the loudest ones) are not interested in supporting a very open interpretation of the evidence."
And even more so when the interpretation begins to drift away from previously established teachings. Rather than truly looking for answers we are much more inclined to look for confirmation.
Anyway thanks for the clean conversation. The sun will come up tomorrow and there's a big beautiful incredible world out there no matter where it came from, enjoy it while you can.
Those whom believe in creationism are generally the same bunch of idiots that believe vaccinations cause autism.
The only real thing we can ALL be sure of is that once we're born, we all die in the end. There's no way out.
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