any of you joe plumber?

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Edited Date/Time 1/19/2012 11:03pm
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Who is Joe the Plumber?

He is Joe Wurzelbacher, an Ohio man looking to buy a plumbing business who came to symbolize the notion of spreading the wealth in Wednesday night's third and final presidential debate between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain.

Earlier this week, when Wurzelbacher got a chance to speak with Obama during a campaign appearance in Toledo, he told Obama that his tax plan would keep him from buying the business that currently employs him.

Sensing an opportunity during the debate, McCain cited that exchange when the candidates were asked to explain why their economic plans are better than their opponent's. McCain said Obama's plan would stop entrepreneurs from investing in new small businesses and keep existing ones from growing.

"Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these years, worked 10, 12 hours a day. And he wanted to buy the business but he looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much higher taxes," McCain challenged Obama.

"You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket which was going to increase his taxes, which was going to cause him not to be able to employ people, which Joe was trying to realize the American dream," McCain said.

McCain then looked directly into the television camera and said: "Joe, I want to tell you, I'll not only help you buy that business that you worked your whole life for and I'll keep your taxes low and I'll provide available and affordable health care for you and your employees. And I will not stand for a tax increase on small business income."

Obama denied that was true.

"Not only do 98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000, but I also want to give them additional tax breaks, because they are the drivers of the economy," Obama said. "They produce the most jobs."

So what did Wurzelbacher (pronounced whur-zell-BAHK-er) think about becoming the center of the debate?

"It's pretty surreal, man, my name being mentioned in a presidential campaign," he said minutes after hearing McCain utter his name.

Wurzelbacher came up again when the debate turned to a discussion of health care policies. McCain charged that Obama's plan would fine the company Wurzelbacher wanted to buy; Obama said small businesses were exempt.

"Hey Joe, you're rich. Congratulations," McCain said mockingly.
Wurzelbacher said Obama's reaction left him feeling uneasy.

"I didn't think much of it the first time I heard it," Wurzelbacher said, adding that he still thinks Obama's plan would keep him from buying the business.

About McCain: "He's got it right as far as I go."

Even so, Wurzelbacher declined to say which candidate would get his vote on Nov. 4.

"That's for me and a button to know," he said.

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Motodude wrote:
...looks like a white supremace[img]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00415/JOEPLUMBER_PIXEL_SI_415361a.JPG[/img]
...looks like a white supremace
Your post and your spelling make you look like an ignorant turd,,
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Motodude wrote:
...looks like a white supremace[img]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00415/JOEPLUMBER_PIXEL_SI_415361a.JPG[/img]
...looks like a white supremace
WORCSRacer wrote:
Your post and your spelling make you look like an ignorant turd,,
Yeah, I meant white supremacist..anyway go fukyourself,
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Joe looks like someone you might not want to piss off.

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Obama's tryin to reason with them to put the rope down.
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Got Crack?
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Sorry if I can't shed any tears for a guy who will be making over $250K/year and his taxes go up 3%.
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maybe Obama doesn't have it right.

Bottom line is that everyone needs to tighten their belts some.

As has been pointed out, everyone was happy when things were going good. We all enjoyed benefits from spend tomorrow's dollar today (or most of us as the economy grew).

Whoever wins, we need to keep up the emails and phonecalls to our representatives, telling them to CUT, CUT, CUT.
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10/16/2008 5:56am
Hitler was a smooth talker also.
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10/16/2008 6:02am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2008 6:03am
indy_maico wrote:
Sorry if I can't shed any tears for a guy who will be making over $250K/year and his taxes go up 3%.
exactly - that's the way I see it, too
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indy_maico wrote:
Sorry if I can't shed any tears for a guy who will be making over $250K/year and his taxes go up 3%.
prillernut wrote:
exactly - that's the way I see it, too
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and want to take that wealth from him. Try working harder yourself.
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10/16/2008 6:24am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:51pm
Here's another take on Joe the Plumber.


How can a 3% tax increase stop him from buying the business, when gas going from $1.50 pre-Bush to $4 a gallon now didn't?


It's just an excuse to bitch about taxes.
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al8 wrote:
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and...
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and want to take that wealth from him. Try working harder yourself.
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indy_maico wrote:
Here's another take on Joe the Plumber. How can a 3% tax increase stop him from buying the business, when gas going from $1.50 pre-Bush to...
Here's another take on Joe the Plumber.


How can a 3% tax increase stop him from buying the business, when gas going from $1.50 pre-Bush to $4 a gallon now didn't?


It's just an excuse to bitch about taxes.
Nice!
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10/16/2008 8:13am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:51pm
indy_maico wrote:
Sorry if I can't shed any tears for a guy who will be making over $250K/year and his taxes go up 3%.
prillernut wrote:
exactly - that's the way I see it, too
al8 wrote:
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and...
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and want to take that wealth from him. Try working harder yourself.
Why do you think that he is working harder than people that aren't making $250,000 a year? Also, do you think that Joe is making $250,000 a year? Just asking.


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indy_maico wrote:
Sorry if I can't shed any tears for a guy who will be making over $250K/year and his taxes go up 3%.
prillernut wrote:
exactly - that's the way I see it, too
al8 wrote:
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and...
Thia is one of the major problems with this country. When a person works harder and becomes more successful than you , you get jeolous and want to take that wealth from him. Try working harder yourself.
it believe it's somewhat distantly related to the concept of ability to pay...
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Motodude wrote:
...looks like a white supremace[img]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00415/JOEPLUMBER_PIXEL_SI_415361a.JPG[/img]
...looks like a white supremace
thats fricking racist,motodork
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I'm telling you guys there ain't no way Joe is going to buy that business and be in the $250,000. tax bracket. Its a non issue but Obama would have had to step on a few million toes to point it out.
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al8 wrote:
Hitler was a smooth talker also.
Eh? Some lines fell off or something?

You want to explain that, or do you want us to guess what you mean?

1. Should what I said be interpreted as I'm for the holocaust?
2. Obama has intention to invade Poland?
3. Mccain thinking of teaming up with Italy and Japan towards the Brits?

Hmm....
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Motodude wrote:
...looks like a white supremace[img]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00415/JOEPLUMBER_PIXEL_SI_415361a.JPG[/img]
...looks like a white supremace
Oldmotoguy wrote:
thats fricking racist,motodork
Why?...I'm talking about a white guys appearance...I'm a white guy so where's the problem. If I was slamming Obama because of his colour...that would be different and wrong on my part.

No America counts Obama's race an issue right?
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your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK

do you realize that the western part of the states didn't have slaves ,and wasn't part of the civil war ??
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK do you realize that the western part...
your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK

do you realize that the western part of the states didn't have slaves ,and wasn't part of the civil war ??
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga.
You don't have to be racist, you only have to be ignorant.
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Don't know how true it is , but my local radio news reported "Joe the Plumber" doesn't even have a plumbing license. I know in the state of California you have got to have a plumbing license to do plumbing work. ( Health and Safety ).
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK do you realize that the western part...
your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK

do you realize that the western part of the states didn't have slaves ,and wasn't part of the civil war ??
Larry wrote:
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga. You don't have to be racist...
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga.
You don't have to be racist, you only have to be ignorant.
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists?

i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make an excellent "haole" here in Maui..we'll rename you Phil and toss you in a cane ditch..
10/16/2008 6:15pm
Oldmotoguy wrote:
your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK do you realize that the western part...
your ASSumption makes you an ASS..why do you relate him with a white radical group..hes a hard working american,,motoDORK

do you realize that the western part of the states didn't have slaves ,and wasn't part of the civil war ??
Larry wrote:
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga. You don't have to be racist...
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga.
You don't have to be racist, you only have to be ignorant.
Oldmotoguy wrote:
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists? i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make...
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists?

i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make an excellent "haole" here in Maui..we'll rename you Phil and toss you in a cane ditch..
Maui? It says "Oceanside, Ca"
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Larry wrote:
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga. You don't have to be racist...
What does any of that have to do with racism? You would make an excellent grand dragon here in Ga.
You don't have to be racist, you only have to be ignorant.
Oldmotoguy wrote:
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists? i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make...
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists?

i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make an excellent "haole" here in Maui..we'll rename you Phil and toss you in a cane ditch..
Maui? It says "Oceanside, Ca"
have you noticed,everything is fake here..whats your name? first name "NO"..last name"ZONE"
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists? i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make...
so all white guys that look like Joe are white supremists?

i'm sorry,but i grew up in cali,where we didn't have slave plantations..and you would make an excellent "haole" here in Maui..we'll rename you Phil and toss you in a cane ditch..
I am not talking about Joe I am talking to you.
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