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12/22/2014 12:07pm
oh man first let me put my flame suit on..............
ok so we all know we live in a new age where everyone is sesative etc etc......
for those with school age kids you may relate to this.
son got punched in the face by a kid at the bus stop. the kid got 2 hits in before my son grabed him in a head lock took him to the ground and began repaying the favor. he got a few hits in before other kids broke it up.
now these 2 boys have prior history. the last time it was one sided my son didnt fight back and just told the school. nothing was done other than a "hey stop it"
well i was gonna let this one pass as well. let boys be boys. then my son tells me this kids friends say that they will jump him to get him back. so my son decides its not worth the fight and takes a new route to get home etc etc......
i contact the school and say we need to do something. the asst principle meets with me. we agree my son needs to stick to his regular route and not fear anything.
i call back to the school to follow up and see if any thing has happen to prevent futher fighting. the AP tells me my son is at fault for hitting the other kid back.
needless to say i have gone back to the school and now demand action and told the AP what i though of him.
i now have a packet of paperwork i need to fill out to take this to the district level. at this point im not even upset about the fight but the schools lack of action.
so in the schools own code of conduct it does say self defense is allowed. the AP says well hitting someone back isnt self defense. my argument is that this happen at a bus stop and there are no adults to tuen to. so in this case my son used what he deemend neccesary to defend himself. the AP answewr was he should have turned his back to the kid.
I have pushed the issue and now the AP is telling me that moving forward will not be worht the effort and with out saying the actual words doenst want me to move forward.
ok so we all know we live in a new age where everyone is sesative etc etc......
for those with school age kids you may relate to this.
son got punched in the face by a kid at the bus stop. the kid got 2 hits in before my son grabed him in a head lock took him to the ground and began repaying the favor. he got a few hits in before other kids broke it up.
now these 2 boys have prior history. the last time it was one sided my son didnt fight back and just told the school. nothing was done other than a "hey stop it"
well i was gonna let this one pass as well. let boys be boys. then my son tells me this kids friends say that they will jump him to get him back. so my son decides its not worth the fight and takes a new route to get home etc etc......
i contact the school and say we need to do something. the asst principle meets with me. we agree my son needs to stick to his regular route and not fear anything.
i call back to the school to follow up and see if any thing has happen to prevent futher fighting. the AP tells me my son is at fault for hitting the other kid back.
needless to say i have gone back to the school and now demand action and told the AP what i though of him.
i now have a packet of paperwork i need to fill out to take this to the district level. at this point im not even upset about the fight but the schools lack of action.
so in the schools own code of conduct it does say self defense is allowed. the AP says well hitting someone back isnt self defense. my argument is that this happen at a bus stop and there are no adults to tuen to. so in this case my son used what he deemend neccesary to defend himself. the AP answewr was he should have turned his back to the kid.
I have pushed the issue and now the AP is telling me that moving forward will not be worht the effort and with out saying the actual words doenst want me to move forward.
From what you wrote, that is what I'm thinking the AP is getting at.
I agree though, boys will be boys. They will fight, then next week they'll be hanging out like nothing happened.
The Shop
1. a 13 year old child doesnt have the mental state required to just sit on someone. you get hit in the face twice the first responce is fight back if not your probably french or canadian lol.
2. this was at a bus stop there were no adults to stop what was happening. he was alone and had to do something.
3. these two have histry where it was one sided and it has escalated to this. what happens next time?
of and the last one......... the AP didnt even call the other parents until i follwed up and by then it was over a week.
for the record i am proud of my son for defending himself and i was already leaning towards home/online school next year and well this just makes it a done deal. it will infact give us more flexability to ride the dirt scooter together and provide a far better education.
but im not leaving public school without shaking things up lol. you cant scream anti bully this anti bully that yet remain passive when something happens.
sounds like the AP is the one that needs the ass-beating. obviously you probably shouldn't be the one to give out said ass-beating, but taking it to the higher-ups is usually a good way to go
and a little folow up...... the police are involved not on my behalf but the aparment staff know this other kid and problems he causes and no longer will allow him on the property (aparment complex.... long story... temporary housing solution).
alos there was another fight between two other kids at the bus stop yesturday and mr AP said he had heard something but dint know who it was.....
Mr Ass Puss please report to the avoidance and back turning room.
The schools aren't really interested in anything other than covering their ass legally. In every fight situation both kids get suspended as policy. That's fine it gives me a chance to teach my kids a life lesson which isn't the schools job anyway.
We also homeschool one kid and may start the boys again here soon. It's a great option...............
And now the answer is to home school? That seems like a lose lose situation to me. If the parent just WANTS to teach the kid, then I think it's great. But if the parents believe the kid will get a better education in a classroom, but the AP is seemingly encouraging bullies, that's flat out wrong. We pay DAMN good money through taxes to pay for that piece of shit AP. Time he starts earning that money or answer to someone higher.
I say give em hell muffs.
Wow! What a difference 20 years makes! Gone was the strong male Principal who was a military vet to be replaced by a bunch of OVER-ANALYZING women and weak males.
Had a situation this year where the class bully made his rounds and finally got to my kid. First time .....I let it slide, second time I contacted the school...we had a meeting and they took care of it .........that lasted a few months. Third time.....I picked my kid up from school and followed the other kids bus to his place. Conveniently the father was outside.....as the bus rolled past I pulled in to the drive way....a little aggressively maybe!
Had a few choice words for him AND his kid!!! .....with the volume turned up and inches from his face!. Didnt give either of them a chance to say one fucking word.
After about a minute of what was probably the scariest encounter he had in a while (I could tell by his eyes getting all glassy and him getting the shakes)I lowered the volume and I told him if I ever came back to his place that he would never know I was there!
Dont know how I avoided a visit from the po po on that one but god damb it, I was heated up!!!
So far so good.....havent had any issues and from what my kid has told me he's still the class asshat , however he doesnt cause anyone in class any more problems.
Come to find out a couple of teachers took it upon themselves to have many students put in writing on what had been going on and turned it over to the principal.
Pit Row
i have asked to speak to the other parents the school has refused to facilitate that. my number was passed off to the other parent and i was told her reply was that she was not comfortable talking to me.
so to add a little mpore fuel to the fire my son does have a IEP so he does receive some special education services.
i wrote my statement last night and dated it for todsay. this is becasue the AP made it pretty clear he would rather me date in Jan 6th wich is after the X mas break. had he not made that comment i may have done that on my own but since he is pretty clear that he doesnt want to take action i will now force the issue and he can have his entire vacation time to work the issue.
i am already expecting him to close his investigsation with no results and i will appeal to the district.
On December 5th my son approached me after school and said he had a bad day. When I asked why, he said he was punched in the face twice by another student at the bus stop. I asked more questions and he told me that he was involved in a verbal confrontation with a female student when another male student identified as “peanut” approached him. A verbal confrontation occurred between them and escalated when my son was struck in the face twice with a closed fist. With nowhere to retreat and no adults present (name) fought back to defend himself.
Immediately following the altercation my son started to get bullied and harassed at the school, on the bus and while walking home. It started with one kid threatening him by saying “if you tell your dad about this fight I will stick him”. Throughout the day he was told that if the fight had not got broken up that the other kid’s friends would have jumped in and helped beat up (name). He has endured constant harassment and bullying while on school property which has caused him to take an alternate route home. He gets off the bus a stop early, walks through a neighboring community, hides behind a building, throws his backpack over the fence and then crawls under the fence to get home. He told me he does this to avoid further harassment from the other kids. He has communicated to me every night his concern for his safety both at school and on his way home. This has become such an issue he says it distracts from his ability to pay attention in class.
This is easily defined as reasonable fear as (name) was assaulted by the same student on the bus earlier in the year. During that assault, (name) did not fight back and immediately told the bus driver and myself who then reported it to the school. I was not given any reassurance that anything was done to prevent it from happening again. (name) feels let down that he constantly reports issues and nothing is done to help him. This has escalated from an open hand slap, to a closed fist punch. Every adult involved here is responsible to take action to ensure it does not go any further.
By MSID’s own definition, bullying has occurred verbally, physically, on school property, and in a vehicle operated by the district. This has led to a reasonable fear of harm, was sufficiently severe enough to create an intimidating and threatening education environment and is interfering with his education. I have every confidence the school can find it within their power to take swift and firm action to ensure this matter is corrected and, as stated on the schools own website, provide a safe, secure and supportive environment for learning.
The actions taken by the administration so far have been unsatisfactory. I have been told (name) will also face disciplinary action if I chose to pursue this. Rather than punish (name) for being brave enough to speak up, he should be recognized and awarded. Not only has he gone out of his way to avoid further confrontation, he chose to tell an adult even when he was warned not to by other kids. (name) is the one being put in a no win situation while the aggressor is being protected.
She said she was so proud of him for fighting back because he is such a pussy and it scares the shit out her that he is such a pussy.. her words. She said that he gets picked on because he won't fight back and lets others run over him. This is a Mom and even Mom's know you have to stand up for yourself or it is only going to get worst. I don't know where the line is but sometimes, you just need to harden the fuck up.
we wrestle and play fight all the time and i have always told him if you handle kids witht he same power you fight me with they wont mess with you for long.
especially in the last 6 months i have went from being able to flick him off of me with no effort at all to really have to apply some technique and strenght to get him off of me lol.
MR VP
called to inform me he has my statement and now has 10 school days to complete his investigation and with he holiday break that gives him until jan 15.
then he couldnt find the words to explain how he felt about my last paragraph and asked why i wrote/felt that way.
i said i still have the email where you said it.
he shut up and said ok well i will call you when i am done. and now that this is open your son needs to tell me immediatly if anything happens.
If you are having to hide in bushes to spy on your child's behavior, something tells me that there's a whole bunch of this "story" that's being left out.....
trust me i even know more about my friends and neighborsids kids than they do. when they come over ranting about some shit thier kid did im like uhhh not suprised have you seen the stuff he post on his instagram etc etc.....
It took me for ever to feel comfortable letting him play outside when he was younger. I would get of work bust out the folding chair in the drive way and just watch him play out side. i got to know ever kid on the street. who was good who was bad who lied etc etc.. after what must have been a year of observation i felt comfortable letting go out side on his own for short periods of time.
oddly i was the only parent that ever bothered to sit outside and observe.
obviuously hes a little older now but again i do what i do so i know how he acts when im not around.
What is the school district's position on the 1st Amendment? Compare to yours.
What is the school district's position on the 2nd Amendment? Compare to yours.
What is the school district's position on religion? Compare to yours.
It's your kid-----raise them as YOU see fit. BTW, going against the grain is never easy.
Good luck and charge on!
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