Wow! (You pilots are nuts!)

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DSteg222 7/9/2009 9:17pm
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That's nothin. Aircraft never pitched or rolled violently. Hell... that is just a ride calm ride. Should have been easy to get out of and restart the engines.

Take the Navy spin training in a T-2 bucket. Now that is something special. Actually sping the aircraft inverted. The plane pitches 150 degrees while increasing and decreasing the yaw rate. That is wild ride!! Loved it everytime we had to requal.
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wildbill 7/9/2009 10:35pm
7/9/2009 10:35pm
then why did they crash?
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zjbell 7/9/2009 11:05pm
7/9/2009 11:05pm
I'm on a new laptop, I cant see it.
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zjbell 7/9/2009 11:17pm
7/9/2009 11:17pm
I can't see anything. Chucks post is just blank.

Is it flash or somethin?

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zjbell 7/9/2009 11:40pm
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Ahh, I figured it out.

Nasty spin gone wrong, three or four spins in a cycle was more than enough for me.

I would always take a brand new student and let him do a power off stall. 90% of the time they would end up spinning it and I would recover after one good turn. Scared the shit out of PPL's in training. Really made them respect the stall and spin from the very beginning, one of those lessons you don't forget.
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DSteg222 7/10/2009 12:15am
7/10/2009 12:15am
wildbill wrote:
then why did they crash?
Because he didnt get the engine restarted. They may have stalled because they ran out of fuel and tried to keep the plane flying and stalled. You can see them pull the noce in effort to hold altitude. They pulled out of the spin well in time and from what I can see, plenty of speed and alt to be able to restart. Some aircraft wont restart that easily, so who knows if they were in the correct restart envelope. Couldnt restart the T-2 unless you were below a certain atl and between a low and high airspeed. Part of the Navy Spin training was to shut one engine off (NOT BOTH!!) and then after recovering from the spin you had to make sure you were inside the proper envelope or the engine would never relight.
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Big Lenny 7/10/2009 1:37am
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wildbill wrote:
then why did they crash?
DSteg222 wrote:
Because he didnt get the engine restarted. They may have stalled because they ran out of fuel and tried to keep the plane flying and stalled...
Because he didnt get the engine restarted. They may have stalled because they ran out of fuel and tried to keep the plane flying and stalled. You can see them pull the noce in effort to hold altitude. They pulled out of the spin well in time and from what I can see, plenty of speed and alt to be able to restart. Some aircraft wont restart that easily, so who knows if they were in the correct restart envelope. Couldnt restart the T-2 unless you were below a certain atl and between a low and high airspeed. Part of the Navy Spin training was to shut one engine off (NOT BOTH!!) and then after recovering from the spin you had to make sure you were inside the proper envelope or the engine would never relight.
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SteveS 7/10/2009 5:55am
7/10/2009 5:55am
Early on in the video you can hear them try to restart, but it doesn't run.
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DSteg222 7/10/2009 3:01pm
7/10/2009 3:01pm
Big Lenny wrote:
[img]https://charlespaolino.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/redbaron_0111.jpg[/img]
WHAT??? Are you kidding.... nah.... more like this....



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KMC440 7/10/2009 4:03pm
7/10/2009 4:03pm
Stalled a Citabria, 152, 172 and 182.... trust me they give you plenty of warning.

An A-4 may be a bit more spectacular.

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