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Why is polygamy illegal?
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And ladies, don't even think about two or five guys. Okay, you might get a few sickos (like your average rock band, for instance) to play nice and share some subhuman plaything once if you get 'em whacked out on various chemicals. This is not the behaviour of a severely normal male of the homosapien species, especially not ones looking for something longer term than the five minutes it takes for them to orgasm. Tommy Lee and Nikki Sixx may have tossed a few groupies around like drug addled and STD ridden footballs, but not Heather Locklear and Donna D'erico. No, males are far too possesive and insecure to let the other boys play with their personal toys. Unless of course the boys are gay, their personal toys are each other, and the lady is just a prop thrown in for a few laughs, like say, a vibrator or whatever else it is people do.
I still haven't see the subjective, logical evidence than indicates it's any worse than have a boyfriend/girlfrient, or having kids and not getting married, or any of the other variations.
Age of consent is a major issue in this instance
Not sure I buy into all of this but #1. and #4. pretty much says it all plus the fact that as Polygamy exists today, it almost always involves young underage girls.
Ten Reasons Why Polygamy Should Be Illegal
In all polygamous cultures on the planet, women have extremely low status. All must obey their husbands, fathers, or brothers at all times. All are poor with few or no rights. In many, the women are virtual prisoners of their family compounds. Almost none get to choose who they marry, and many are married against their will to much older men. Moreover, the religions in these cultures assign women very low status, which teaches women not to expect more out of life for themselves. Thus, despite the polygamists' arguments, polygamy is not about rights: it's about the power over and control of one group by another.
Polygamy is almost never polyandry. It's not about women's freedom to choose who they marry or how many spouses they have: it's about women being owned by men.
Polygamy skews the natural ratio of marriageable men and women. If one man can take 20 women as spouses, then 19 men must do without spouses entirely. For this reason, polygamous cultures have to deal with the problem of excess males, either through wars and conflicts or through ostracization. This skewing of the natural ratio would create conflict in Canada.
Most North American "families" in polygamous situations are on welfare or food stamps. The men in these "families" cannot financially support all the women and children, and the women are generally not permitted the freedom to choose a career and work outside the family compound. This shows that in a modern society, polygamous marriages are neither healthy nor stable institutions.
The media has shown some polygamous women claiming that they are happy in their multiple marriages. But these statements have to be viewed carefully. According to the religion of these cultures, women are only permitted into heaven by permission of their "husband." In addition, if these women make a statement that could be construed as anti-polygamy, the leadership of the religious community will take away their children. Thus, women in these cultures are afraid to reveal their true thoughts and feelings or to jeopardize their fragile status. Meanwhile, many women who have left these polygamous cults describe the complete subjugation they had to endure. For this reason, the statements of polygamous women cannot be taken at face value.
Legal polygamy would turn immigration into a nightmare. An immigrant can claim to be wed to half a nation of women and demand that all these women be brought to Canada. Polygamists can arrive at the border and demand refugee status because of persecution. Sorting out these claims would be impossible, since most nations refuse to give legal status to such marriages.
Legalized polygamy would reduce women's rights. Polygamous cults from all over the world would start immigrating to Canada to take advantage of a right to live this lifestyle. Once they take citizenship, they would be able to vote for the values they believe in – low status for women. Moreover, they would raise their enormous families of children to believe these same values, which would further add to the anti-women voting pool. In a short period of time, 200 years of struggle for women's rights would vanish.
The issue of same-sex marriage is not at all in the same category as polygamous marriage. First, same-sex marriage is still a partnership and relationship of two people, most often with the objective of starting a family. Second, nonheterosexuality is a biological state, not a choice. In contrast, nobody is born a polygamist. Thus, polygamy is not a rights situation in the same sense that nonheterosexual marriage recognition is a rights situation. Third, same-sex marriage does not affect anyone except the two people involved; whereas polygamous marriage affects all of society because of its impact on women's status in Canada.
In Canada, marriage is a partnership and a relationship. Polygamy turns marriage into a cattle drive.
Canada should be prepared to protect the lifestyle choices of those who have sexual-family forms that are not marriages. A multiple sexual partners lifestyle is not and should never be illegal in Canada. In addition, having children with multiple partners or sharing one father for several women's children should never be illegal either. These are lifestyle choices. However, Canada has the right and the responsibility to recognize only one spouse as a legal spouse and refuse to recognize all others. In other words, Canada cannot prevent polygamists from doing what they do, but they can refuse to grant it any legal status.
Honestly, I have a feeling the illegality is more religious driven.
1. In all polygamous cultures on the planet, women have extremely low status. All must obey their husbands, fathers, or brothers at all times. All are poor with few or no rights. In many, the women are virtual prisoners of their family compounds. Almost none get to choose who they marry, and many are married against their will to much older men. Moreover, the religions in these cultures assign women very low status, which teaches women not to expect more out of life for themselves. Thus, despite the polygamists' arguments, polygamy is not about rights: it's about the power over and control of one group by another.
4. Most North American "families" in polygamous situations are on welfare or food stamps. The men in these "families" cannot financially support all the women and children, and the women are generally not permitted the freedom to choose a career and work
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I understand that religious beliefs have caused its share of problems with our country and society today. But peoples dislike of religion has also caused people to look past at what should be common sense just to even the score.
What ever happen to logic and common sense?
Maybe you should toss in a couple "what about the children" statements in order to come full circle
But why legalize something that is already legal?
BTW: I have absolutely no moral issues with gay people. You might be surprised how many gay friends and acquaintances that I have.
Saying that they can live together indefinitely, legally, is the basis to not allow them to marry makes the argument to outlaw ALL marriages as a whole, as anyone can live together...so why allow marriage at all?
Marriage offers more legal recognition benefits than negative legal issues it may bring.
Disallowing consenting adults the ability to make marital coupling decisions on their own is silly.
If a man (or woman) wants to have two or more spouses, they should be allowed to do so.
It is their lives, it should be there choice and it is a choice that affects no one but themselves.
It has no bearing on anyone else's life whatsoever.
I think the pologamy groups where the man forces women to marry, have their children and degrade the women is wrong especially with young children, but it is not how typical pologamy relationships work just the ones the media covers. The media covers the ones where the women aren't allowed to talk and they dress in 1800's clothes and crap like that. Those men are just nasty people.
You’re point would be well taken if we were discussing the Gay Marriage issue and I would agree with you on most of you’re points. Polygamy is a much more completed issue when it comes to the “legal issues” that could, and would come about if polygamy were recognized as a legal marriage. Here are a few of the issues that could turn into a muddy mess.
• Divorce
• Insurance benefits
• Social Security benefits. (particularly death benefits)
• Taxes
It's easy to make an argument that all the social and cultural norms in our society are backwards and wrong if they have a basis in religion, but the reason things like polygamy are considered un-normal in this society is because the society as a whole is comfortable with the idea of one spouse at a time.
There may be 1% that believes polygamy is great, but they chose the wrong society to practice their beliefs in - along with those making moral judgements about how keeping polygamy illegal is "wrong".
There's cultures out there that promote the idea of harums for those that think polygamy is a good idea. Those that think those cultures are not as backwards as our own should move to one of those countries and live it up .....
"Marriage" is something that should be the unique province of a church and a faith. The government should recognize ONLY civil unions, which is a legal agreement between adults, dealing with property, care of children, etc, etc.
I believe in the separation of church and state. For starters, tell the state to get out of the marriage business, they don't have the bonifides to do it.
Technically, legally, polygamy requires marriage
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