Why is our society addicted to misery porn?

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8/3/2019 1:58 PM

Flipping between the various news channels after lunch and it seems like they are all hoping to find more and more tragedy in the El Paso mass shooting. Caught glimpses of footage showing victims on the ground, etc.

They wouldn't be doing it if they didn't believe that it would drive ratings.........

What the phuck is wrong with us as a society?

(And yes, the news is off limits in our house for at least the next 24 hours.)

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8/3/2019 2:10 PM

Tool wrote and recorded a really good song about this.

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8/3/2019 2:11 PM

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond
Who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

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"We don't rent pigs."

8/3/2019 2:41 PM

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8/3/2019 2:51 PM

Harry Backmon wrote:

Tool wrote and recorded a really good song about this.

Speaking of Tool, I know I've mentioned this before but I'm pretty sure that I was the source of Paul D'Amour's first experiences with alcohol........

I was always the bigger, older looking guy and was able to start buying kegs while I was 17!!!!!

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8/3/2019 3:50 PM

JAFO92 wrote:

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond
Who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

I thought that song was way older than tool, like Don Henley or someone who sounds like him. Or did Tool do a cover of it.

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8/3/2019 4:31 PM

JAFO92 wrote:

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond
Who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

Jim in VA wrote:

I thought that song was way older than tool, like Don Henley or someone who sounds like him. Or did Tool do a cover of it.

Correct-- it was a Don Henley release in 82

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8/3/2019 4:39 PM

I don't watch TV anymore so the only way I know stuff like this happens is if you guys post it.

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8/3/2019 4:53 PM

First met him because he was friends with my freshman college roommate's younger brother. They were 2 years younger than we were, but they spent all of their time at our place it seemed. I was 17 the first little bit of my freshman year and found a place that would let me exchange kegs with no problems at the beginning of the summer.

Paul was a pretty weird kid back then. He was a pretty dedicated fan of Duran Duran and I vividly remember him telling some of us that he would never pay to see any band play but them! We knew that was silly because we had just turned 18 and knew how 16yos didn't know anything about the real world..... cool

Sort of a funny story is that my best friend "sold" Paul a bass and amp to play with some of his high school buddies. I quote the sold part because he never actually got paid for them. After Paul sort of disappeared and stopped answering calls, my buddy went to his house and his dad answered the door. He told him that Paul wasn't there so my buddy asked if his dad would pay him the 2 or 3 hundred dollars for the stuff. His dad just laughed and said that he should have known to never trust his kid like that.

Some time in the late 90s, after he'd left Tool, he was up in town visiting friends and family and my buddy randomly ran into him at a local bar. It sounds like he settled up with him pretty well then.

The other connection to Tool is that the guy who did all the artwork with Adam Jones was a classmate of Paul's in high school and another kid who hung out at our place. His name is Kevin Willis and I'm pretty sure that his friendship with Adam is what landed Paul in the band in the first place.

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8/3/2019 5:01 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm okay with gore and gruesome stuff in movies, entertainment, etc. But I truly am repulsed by these real life events being used as entertainment. I just don't have the stomach for it, I guess.

When something like this happens, I think that the event is somewhat newsworthy and I'd want to know some details if it were in my general area and the killer were still at large, for example. But the footage of the carnage serves no real purpose other than what I believe it is, misery porn.

And maybe my aversion is what makes it seem like the talking heads are desperate for something else even worse than the last report to happen. It feels like they are auctioneers trying to bid up the death count for some insane reason.

Sorry if I'm ranting, but this shit today has truly made me physically ill and wondering about the society we live in.

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8/3/2019 5:19 PM

I agree.
Our present news media has devolved to a very low place.
Can the zest for ratings actually change the behavior of our society?
Or is the media simply a reflection of the audience it serves?
Sad.

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8/3/2019 5:32 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/3/2019 5:38 PM

Dirty Laundry lyrics couldn't be any more pertinent than they are today. The more things change the more they stay the same. I'm a lyrics guy so I always dug this song. Another one that kind of touches the same nerve is John Lennon's Working Class Hero.

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and despise a fool
Till you're so f****** crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for 20-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still f****** peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still
But first you must learn to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

It's an old story told many times. Mass media and Social media just magnifies it. The more lurid the better. The rich get richer poor get poorer. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity? We live it everyday. Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV. The opiate of the masses.

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8/3/2019 7:03 PM

It's really too bad that you cant tune in to one of the cable news stations not get hammered with crap. 5 facts are blended in with 500 useless opinions by "experts". An absolute blunderbuss of bullshit. It gets worse and worse as the evening wears on because it gives CNNFOXMSNBC time to call in all the usual suspects so they can have panels to their liking and opinionate the living fucking shit out of this. The same crap over and over and over. Fuck your goddamn opinion.

I guess it's just like cable tv in general. 250 channels and there only 5 that are interesting 10% of the time.
That would be a question to add to APLMAN'S. What is it about our society that that provides profit for endless amounts of bullshit on TV?

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8/3/2019 7:12 PM

Blunderbuss of bullshit. Ha ha. smile

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8/3/2019 7:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/3/2019 7:38 PM

BMSOBx2 wrote:

Dirty Laundry lyrics couldn't be any more pertinent than they are today. The more things change the more they stay the same. I'm a lyrics guy so I always dug this song. Another one that kind of touches the same nerve is John Lennon's Working Class Hero.

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and despise a fool
Till you're so f****** crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for 20-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still f****** peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still
But first you must learn to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

It's an old story told many times. Mass media and Social media just magnifies it. The more lurid the better. The rich get richer poor get poorer. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity? We live it everyday. Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV. The opiate of the masses.

Don wrote this song after he was raked over the coals when a 16 year old girl OD'd on cocaine he was hanging out with in 1980.

What a F-ing gas bag.

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8/3/2019 7:57 PM

BMSOBx2 wrote:

Dirty Laundry lyrics couldn't be any more pertinent than they are today. The more things change the more they stay the same. I'm a lyrics guy so I always dug this song. Another one that kind of touches the same nerve is John Lennon's Working Class Hero.

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and despise a fool
Till you're so f****** crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for 20-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still f****** peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still
But first you must learn to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

It's an old story told many times. Mass media and Social media just magnifies it. The more lurid the better. The rich get richer poor get poorer. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity? We live it everyday. Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV. The opiate of the masses.

Rocket88 wrote:

Don wrote this song after he was raked over the coals when a 16 year old girl OD'd on cocaine he was hanging out with in 1980.

What a F-ing gas bag.

Whatever you think of him he nailed it with the lyrics, did he not?

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8/3/2019 11:43 PM

The media makes sickphucks like this latest shooter famous . I swear the media is the root of a lot of the evil in the world. They need to stop posting the names/pictures of these psychos

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8/4/2019 6:26 AM

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

I don't watch TV anymore so the only way I know stuff like this happens is if you guys post it.

Lol,. Vital for world info. .

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8/4/2019 9:17 AM

BMSOBx2 wrote:

Dirty Laundry lyrics couldn't be any more pertinent than they are today. The more things change the more they stay the same. I'm a lyrics guy so I always dug this song. Another one that kind of touches the same nerve is John Lennon's Working Class Hero.

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and despise a fool
Till you're so f****** crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for 20-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still f****** peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still
But first you must learn to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

A working class hero is something to be
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

It's an old story told many times. Mass media and Social media just magnifies it. The more lurid the better. The rich get richer poor get poorer. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity? We live it everyday. Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV. The opiate of the masses.

Rocket88 wrote:

Don wrote this song after he was raked over the coals when a 16 year old girl OD'd on cocaine he was hanging out with in 1980.

What a F-ing gas bag.

BMSOBx2 wrote:

Whatever you think of him he nailed it with the lyrics, did he not?

Yes, both John & Don's songs are great. No question.

For the record my comment was to Dirty Laundry. IMHO Don could walk up on stage, rip a big ol' fart and the media would still find a way to say it smelled like flowers.

After his bust with the underage OD'd girl the media targeted him and really lit him up, hence we get Dirty Laundry. I doubt he would have ever written it otherwise.

Still can't help but smile every time I hear it.

Peace my brother!

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8/4/2019 1:58 PM

Really is nothing new.

Years before cable there was a large following for "detective" magazines that featured sensationalized crimes.

Go back a,little further and look at the crowds that would show up at hangings.

Heck, in a town near me 2500 people showed up to watch them hang an elephant that killed it's trainer in a parade.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(elephant)

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8/4/2019 2:25 PM

"If it bleeds, it leads". That tagline has floated around media outlets since, well, media outlets came into existence.

Side note: I always liked the mid-song guitar solo on "Dirty Landry", finding out only a couple of years ago that it's Joe Walsh's work. And those of you in your mid-50's, remember "Thunder Island"? Great summertime song, made even greater by the guitar solo, courtesy of...Joe Walsh! All this AND James Gang, The Eagles, his solo career, etc...

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"You can't resist the louder pull..."

8/6/2019 8:07 PM

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8/7/2019 4:47 AM

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

I don't watch TV anymore so the only way I know stuff like this happens is if you guys post it.

mxb2 wrote:

Lol,. Vital for world info. .

That's the thing. I don't "want" to know what's happening in the world. I just haven't figured a way to filter it out of Vital yet, other than completely stop coming here like I have with TV and news. And that's not happening. smile

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8/7/2019 6:17 AM

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

I don't watch TV anymore so the only way I know stuff like this happens is if you guys post it.

mxb2 wrote:

Lol,. Vital for world info. .

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

That's the thing. I don't "want" to know what's happening in the world. I just haven't figured a way to filter it out of Vital yet, other than completely stop coming here like I have with TV and news. And that's not happening. smile

Its good to know whats going on.in the world, Good and bad.

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8/7/2019 6:44 AM

When one thinks about it, when it becomes the norm, and nobody takes notice, could that not be a much worse s thing?

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8/7/2019 6:54 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/7/2019 7:53 AM

Harry Backmon wrote:

Tool wrote and recorded a really good song about this.

Eye on the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I

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8/7/2019 7:08 AM

I'm not sure it's ever been that much different, people in Victorian Britain for example were obsessed with death and misery, just look at the penny dreadfuls and spectacle of public execution. They used to run special trains on a day of execution to deal with the extra load as upto 100,000 people could turn up if the execution was 'special'.

Some of the songs the toffs used to sing to each other sat around a grand piano in their country houses drinking claret were horrific as well.

I think we have always loved it, it's just with modern technology it's hard to get away from it.

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8/7/2019 7:11 AM

mxb2 wrote:

Lol,. Vital for world info. .

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

That's the thing. I don't "want" to know what's happening in the world. I just haven't figured a way to filter it out of Vital yet, other than completely stop coming here like I have with TV and news. And that's not happening. smile

mxb2 wrote:

Its good to know whats going on.in the world, Good and bad.

No, for me it's not. I don't want to know.

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8/7/2019 7:55 AM

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

That's the thing. I don't "want" to know what's happening in the world. I just haven't figured a way to filter it out of Vital yet, other than completely stop coming here like I have with TV and news. And that's not happening. smile

mxb2 wrote:

Its good to know whats going on.in the world, Good and bad.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

No, for me it's not. I don't want to know.

I'm with you...I prefer to frolic through life thinking all is rainbows and butterflies and loamy corners.

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8/7/2019 9:37 AM

mxb2 wrote:

Its good to know whats going on.in the world, Good and bad.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

No, for me it's not. I don't want to know.

5280mx wrote:

I'm with you...I prefer to frolic through life thinking all is rainbows and butterflies and loamy corners.

Life sure is a lot easier that way. I asked myself how I want to spend the few years I have have left on this earth. Do I want to spend them in a bad mood or a good mood? I decided that there is no sense in getting in a bad mood for things I have absolutely no control over. If you run some quick stats on news stories on any given day you'll find over 90% of the stories are negative, and for a reason. Get people mad. When people are mad they talk about the stories and send links out to get other people mad. The more eyes get put on those links the more dollars the people make behind them. So yep, I just block it all out. Fuck em. smile

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