What's the goal?

dmc22tx
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Edited Date/Time 7/19/2015 7:21pm
Based on my number of posts I'm not a frequent contributor to the board, but wanted to get opinions and thoughts on the topic of equality. I'm prompted by the event that occurred here in Phoenix yesterday.
- Left leaning forum hosted by a self admitted illegal immigrant
- Democratic presidential candidates attempting to speak to their voting base
- Event taken over by activists with one specific agenda using the heading of Black Lives Matter
- Candidates not allowed to respond and when doing so are met with cursing and boos.
- O'Malley has to apologize for saying that "white lives matter" and "all lives matter".

It's clear that the protesters were successful in having their voices heard, and that's great. I just found it surprising this happened at liberal event and not a conservative event.
Question is, what are the goals and what are the measurements of achievement? How can we progress if we can't define what progress is? Do we know what it is and just can't accept it?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/bernie-sanders-netroots-nation-b…
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7/19/2015 2:02pm
Interesting; I guess the media wants to cover what they want? Below is what I saw as top news not this. When people go off the reservation with their shouting, I tune out.


http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/18/bernie-sanders-sets-record-11000…
Bernie Sanders drew the biggest crowd of the 2016 campaign as 11,000 supporters came out to hear him in red state Arizona.

A crowd of more than 11,000 people, according to Phoenix Convention Center officials, jammed a sprawling exhibit hall to see the senator from Vermont. “This is the largest turnout…” Sanders said before the roar of the audience drowned out the rest of the sentence with cheers. “Somebody told me Arizona is a conservative state. Somebody told me the people here are giving up on the political process. That’s not what I see here tonight.” Sanders told the audience in Arizona, a state that has voted for Republican presidential nominees in all but one of the past 10 national elections. “Progressives will never win unless we plant a flag in these states. The Democratic Party cannot abdicate and surrender half the states in the country.”
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7/19/2015 3:12pm
dmc22tx wrote:
Based on my number of posts I'm not a frequent contributor to the board, but wanted to get opinions and thoughts on the topic of equality...
Based on my number of posts I'm not a frequent contributor to the board, but wanted to get opinions and thoughts on the topic of equality. I'm prompted by the event that occurred here in Phoenix yesterday.
- Left leaning forum hosted by a self admitted illegal immigrant
- Democratic presidential candidates attempting to speak to their voting base
- Event taken over by activists with one specific agenda using the heading of Black Lives Matter
- Candidates not allowed to respond and when doing so are met with cursing and boos.
- O'Malley has to apologize for saying that "white lives matter" and "all lives matter".

It's clear that the protesters were successful in having their voices heard, and that's great. I just found it surprising this happened at liberal event and not a conservative event.
Question is, what are the goals and what are the measurements of achievement? How can we progress if we can't define what progress is? Do we know what it is and just can't accept it?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/bernie-sanders-netroots-nation-b…
Question is, what are the goals and what are the measurements of achievement?
Answer is, the goal is political advantage and power.
Achievement is reached when all opposition is silenced.

A good example is in most colleges now. The left have achieved maximum power. It's almost always the left that seeks to silence opposition. It's generally right wingers that get banned from speaking at universities.

I really cant stand people that shout others down like that. I don't care what it is they want. Call your own fucking town hall.

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7/19/2015 3:13pm
It won't get too much play on the news. They only care about themselves and their cause. It's the new way of the left, if you want to say something or don't like what someone else has to say, just go and shout them down.
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7/19/2015 7:21pm
They achieved their goal and got heard.

It wasn't pretty and it didn't help their cause IMO. They came across as extreme and close-minded as a gun nut telling everybody that more guns is the answer right after another school shooting.

There's a time and place to be heard effectively. They got heard alright, but the question is, did they help or hurt their cause in the eyes of the general public? Extremist views play well to other extremists, but the majority of people find themselves somewhere in the center on most issues. Whether or not it works for them depends on the public they're speaking to. To like minded people they were right in what they did, but how does the majority in the center view it?

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