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Used to think "Gun Control" was the answer.
That was the last gun massacre in Australia. After that, gun laws were changed.
If not familiar with it, please read up on it.
It’s estimated that almost 200,000 women annually use a firearm against domestic/sexual abuse. You won’t hear that though.
I understand her ideas on guns have not changed, it is after all her right to choose, but I do greatly respect her looking at the issue honestly and realizing the mountain of disingenuity behind what is the gun control movement.
The Shop
In life, excuses are abundant action is not.
If you want to trust your government to be the only armed humans in your region, do so at your own risk.
But Im never giving up my guns until my government gives up it’s own firearms.
But sensible gun laws need to be enacted.
There is no reason to have weapons designed for the military in civilian hands.
And again, as long as the military has it, I want to be able to own it. Their track record of abuse is far worse than mine.
Any country in which the government has more freedoms than it’s citizens, is not a “free” country.
As far as you owning assault rifle type weapons...do you think you stand a fighting chance against the US military?
Protection against a government by the civilians arming themselves might have made sense 200 years ago, but not today.
- Those terrorist militias are supplied by underground operations. They have access to weapons like no US civilian does.
- The US is fighting in a foreign country totally different. Here it would be all domestic.
If a government turned on its people, it would not need to fight the whole population. Just the bigger threat. Everyone else will fall in line.
So what do we do about the current gun massacres? Nothing.
Either way, Im not in favor of making the situation worse by further neutering the freedoms of civilians.
And as TD21 pointed out, foreign occupancys always fail over time. Despite lopsided technology advantages the opporessors may posses.
Americans + Cars + Alcohol = way more deaths ... why isn’t this front page news topics? Why, because “guns” move the needle. And because nobody wants to talk mental health: the root issue for alcohol or gun related trauma.
Do nothing?
If we don't tackle the gun problem directly, we are beating around the bush.
Pit Row
You see a “gun problem”. Whereas I see a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.
You see, we don’t even agree on what the root issue is here. And that is a major hurddle to get past if we’re gonna be solution oriented.
This is one of the problems with the gun debate though - too many people are utterly convinced that low gun crime stats are directly synonymous with bans. If you know nothing (nor care) about firearms and this line is continually pushed into your face by the media, then you're going to believe it. In my country this leads to disappointment for a tiny, tiny, insignificant minority of sports shooters who can't own certain things on the mainland (primarily handguns) for their hobby. Whereas in America I think this misconception is much more dangerous because it only retards any sensible change or suggestions i.e one side digs in to avoid the clearly ideologically motivated actions from the other.
The real reason for low gun crime is the vetting.
But again, from an emotional/ideological pov it's very difficult for the majority non firearm owning general public to get their heads round this. The UK and Australia is particularly good example because each country has effectively banned the very opposite firearms to each other, only to then cite their own bans as the primary reason for their low gun crime stats.
I mean if a thief REALLY wants your stuff, they WILL get it. No matter what you do.
The answer to the question above is: to make things slightly more difficult for the thief. That is all.
Healthier cultures equal less crime.
I'm not trying to be cute, serious question. I searched and could not find any info pertaining to this.
Seems like I remember Switzerland citizens are armed to the teeth, which comes with required military service.
I can't recall another country that allows assault weapons
However,under the second amendment with BATF rulings due to the 2A you can also build your own firearms.
They cannot stop you from doing that legally here in USA.
As for the assault weapons ban people....
The only thing the government can do legally as far as assault weapons go is a manufacture ban and that would be easy for the industry to get around again.
They tried to do more back during the last ban in the mid 1990's(I worked in the industry at the time and remember it all very well)...all they can get away with is a manufacture ban.
They couldnt even bring them in under the NFA and classify them as a destruction device legally...
There's a couple reasons why and it has to do with the constitution.
Existing weapons in circulation have to be grandfathered in and the prices go up for more of a profit margin due to demand.
What happened last time was the industry grew in size due to the ban.
Pre ban stuff was jacked up in price and just about ever FFL dealer in the country grew and so did the number of manufactures.There was even more of a demand. It spawned pretty much the huge gun culture you see today...and that gun culture is what funds the NRA.
This is all you will get again as far as a AW ban would go here in the USA.
You think if I was directed by government to exterminate people in this country I would do it ? That’s not a lawful order. AND NO MILITARY PERSONNEL IS GONNA DESTROY THEIR OWN COUNTRY. OUR Military is made up of VOLUNTEERS.
That Makes your citizen against the military point mute. The military is made up of citizens. We ain’t gonna kill ourselves.
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