UFO sightings. Not hoax.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Same can be said for the existence of God.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Same can be said for the existence of God.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Sorry, I broke one of Vital's golden rules. Should not have brought that up.

G-man wrote:

30 lashes to Void!

kdizzle_rider wrote:

Any of you guys following this? Looks and sounds a lot like what Bob Lazar was talking about. I can’t damn believe I am considering this...

Any of you guys following this? Looks and sounds a lot like what Bob Lazar was talking about. I can’t damn believe I am considering this UFO shit as plausible.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances

There is a link to a white paper in there that is vastly above my head but I am able to make out enough to understand we may be on the verge of a serious breakthrough.

Thoughts?

FastEddy wrote:

Here's another new interview from another witness in regards to Nimitz /Tic Tac ordeal.

Here's another new interview from another witness in regards to Nimitz /Tic Tac ordeal.

kdizzle_rider wrote:

Any of you guys following this? Looks and sounds a lot like what Bob Lazar was talking about. I can’t damn believe I am considering this...

Any of you guys following this? Looks and sounds a lot like what Bob Lazar was talking about. I can’t damn believe I am considering this UFO shit as plausible.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances

There is a link to a white paper in there that is vastly above my head but I am able to make out enough to understand we may be on the verge of a serious breakthrough.

Thoughts?

OldPro277 wrote:

Lazar catches a lot of shit for a guy that's been proven more and more correct as time has ticked by. Also,the guy hasn't profited one...

Lazar catches a lot of shit for a guy that's been proven more and more correct as time has ticked by. Also,the guy hasn't profited one dime for his story for 30 years. Why would a person that hates the spotlight do what he did without trying to capitalize on it, and turn his life into a basic nightmare ?

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Lighten up Francis. I figured you would like those videos.

Lighten up Francis. I figured you would like those videos.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Yeah, I went out on a limb with the nutso comment hoping you would find it humorous. But, it didn't work. :) For the record, I...

Yeah, I went out on a limb with the nutso comment hoping you would find it humorous. But, it didn't work. For the record, I believe that all these guys saw something, and that the video tape is not fake. I have no plausible explanation for that event (unlike other events such as the flares). These guys experienced a real UFO. However, my definition of UFO and your definition I believe are two different things. My definition is that UFO is just that, unexplained, it has no extraterrestrial meaning attached to it by default. Now, if that UFO is ever explained, it could have an extraterrestrial explanation, but then it's no longer a UFO, it would then become an actual identified alien craft. I may have missed it but I don't believe any of these guys made that leap to saying it was alien. Yes, they said they didn't know of any technology that us humans have that could perform such maneuvers which isn't making that leap of saying "so it must be alien". It very well could be alien, but there's really no way to prove it unless they come back, land and an alien climbs out and says "how ya doin'"? I also believe you saw a UFO, but I personally cannot make the leap to say it must be an alien craft. All of these incidents are happening on Earth and not somewhere else in our Solar System or beyond or I might be more willing to make that leap. Or if SETI finds good hard indication that there is at least 1 other intelligent species somewhere else in our Universe then I would certainly be more willing to jump to that conclusion. And who knows maybe that will happen one day soon. I'm certainly interested in seeing that happen. Until then, I can do no more than to say "I don't know". I would like to think that even if I was there with you and saw the same thing you saw that I would still feel the same. But, I wasn't so I can't say for sure.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

Yeah, I went out on a limb with the nutso comment hoping you would find it humorous. But, it didn't work. :) For the record, I...

Yeah, I went out on a limb with the nutso comment hoping you would find it humorous. But, it didn't work. For the record, I believe that all these guys saw something, and that the video tape is not fake. I have no plausible explanation for that event (unlike other events such as the flares). These guys experienced a real UFO. However, my definition of UFO and your definition I believe are two different things. My definition is that UFO is just that, unexplained, it has no extraterrestrial meaning attached to it by default. Now, if that UFO is ever explained, it could have an extraterrestrial explanation, but then it's no longer a UFO, it would then become an actual identified alien craft. I may have missed it but I don't believe any of these guys made that leap to saying it was alien. Yes, they said they didn't know of any technology that us humans have that could perform such maneuvers which isn't making that leap of saying "so it must be alien". It very well could be alien, but there's really no way to prove it unless they come back, land and an alien climbs out and says "how ya doin'"? I also believe you saw a UFO, but I personally cannot make the leap to say it must be an alien craft. All of these incidents are happening on Earth and not somewhere else in our Solar System or beyond or I might be more willing to make that leap. Or if SETI finds good hard indication that there is at least 1 other intelligent species somewhere else in our Universe then I would certainly be more willing to jump to that conclusion. And who knows maybe that will happen one day soon. I'm certainly interested in seeing that happen. Until then, I can do no more than to say "I don't know". I would like to think that even if I was there with you and saw the same thing you saw that I would still feel the same. But, I wasn't so I can't say for sure.

FastEddy wrote:

The possibilities of what they saw are endless.... Us humans are only so smart and only able to fathom things that we see in our own...

The possibilities of what they saw are endless....
Us humans are only so smart and only able to fathom things that we see in our own world of dimensions to a certain degree. For all we know it could've been some interdimensional technology by a very advanced life form that we couldnt even fathom in a scientific manner. If somehow they could monitor us,be entering our dimension. A theory that is out there...but who knows.

On the other hand in regards to little green men being out there somewhere in the universe that have great sophisticated technology that we cannot fathom. If they are that advanced I'd assume they would also have the technology to stay undetected and avoid any kind of conflict or even contact to a certain degree. It's possible that they could be out there and that we will never be able to prove it,just for the simple fact that they are so advanced.

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

I have thoughts on that as well. It seems likely given the vastness of the universe and given how common we're finding planetary systems around high...

I have thoughts on that as well. It seems likely given the vastness of the universe and given how common we're finding planetary systems around high percentages of stars that life should be common in the Universe. We evolved to where we are very recently in the 4.5 billion years this rock has been orbiting our Sun and there were several significant events that steered our evolution to the point on the timeline that it happened. You have to think life would evolve on different time scales elsewhere in the Universe. We could have evolved a billion or years earlier than we did (or at least millions of years earlier) had the timing of those significant events been different. So if there is a significant number of species that have evolved to at least our level, much earlier than we did, and that they also generated RF which should be simple considering a not yet so intelligent species such as humans were able to master it, that you would see these signals popping up somewhere along the line and showing up in SETI searches. So far that hasn't happened, and it's completely baffling to me.

OldPro277 wrote:

Void, you're ex-military correct ? I've been wanting to ask you about your opinion of this Tic Tac event since it became prominent in the mainstream...

Void, you're ex-military correct ? I've been wanting to ask you about your opinion of this Tic Tac event since it became prominent in the mainstream news. Just figured you might hold these guys opinions a little higher than say a rural Iowa farmer (no offense meant to any Iowans or farmers on here,lol). But you somewhat did that in the above post. I've always considered the military/NASA "sightings" just a bit more credible ---Rendlesham, the Iranian pilots in 1976, the Belgian Air Force chase in the 80's ,the Malmstrom AFB event,etc etc, too many to list here. Add in the NASA astronauts ,Cooper, Gene Cernan,Lovell,Borman,Ed White,James McDivitt who all have have reported sightings, and Scott Carpenters quote " At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone;there was a constant surveillance by UFO's" which has really stuck with me . I know you don't consider all those as hard evidence,nor should you, but those reports are as compelling as the Tic Tac event. Any thoughts on any of those cases ?

XXVoid MainXX wrote:

I have thoughts on that as well. It seems likely given the vastness of the universe and given how common we're finding planetary systems around high...

I have thoughts on that as well. It seems likely given the vastness of the universe and given how common we're finding planetary systems around high percentages of stars that life should be common in the Universe. We evolved to where we are very recently in the 4.5 billion years this rock has been orbiting our Sun and there were several significant events that steered our evolution to the point on the timeline that it happened. You have to think life would evolve on different time scales elsewhere in the Universe. We could have evolved a billion or years earlier than we did (or at least millions of years earlier) had the timing of those significant events been different. So if there is a significant number of species that have evolved to at least our level, much earlier than we did, and that they also generated RF which should be simple considering a not yet so intelligent species such as humans were able to master it, that you would see these signals popping up somewhere along the line and showing up in SETI searches. So far that hasn't happened, and it's completely baffling to me.

FastEddy wrote:

SETI monitoring is interesting... However, even in our world we can spoof communications and go undetected and even have our signals jammed etc...There is no telling...

SETI monitoring is interesting...

However, even in our world we can spoof communications and go undetected and even have our signals jammed etc...There is no telling what an advanced life form with far greater technology could do to their monitoring of transmissions etc.. They could make it seem like there is nothing out there by remotely messing with their equipment/methods. Could even be a form of security for them preventing us from ever finding a trace of life anywhere out there.