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Why did the Trump Campaign in 2016, under the guidance of Paul Manifort at the time, change the GOP platform to weaken our support of Ukraine?
Back in 2016
and again in 2020
https://thehill.com/policy/international/514164-ukraine-language-in-gop…
All the way back to Trump's original platform, it was anti-Ukraine
anyone know why?
I can't figure it out
For more google "manaforts change of republican platform" and "2016 GOP platform change"
Back in 2016
and again in 2020
The absence of an updated Republican party platform for the 2020 election is allowing President Trump to avoid hard commitments on the sensitive foreign policy issue of Ukraine, where his withholding of $400 million in military assistance was at the heart of his impeachment by the House.
The GOP’s decision to preserve the 2016 platform keeps in place toned down language related to Ukraine that was negotiated at the time by Trump’s then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who is serving a seven and a half year prison sentence on charges brought by special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the U.S. elections.
Manafort, who was found by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have had direct contacts with Russian intelligence officials during the 2016 campaign, successfully removed any commitments to lethal military assistance to Kyiv as part of efforts to soften language towards Moscow.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/514164-ukraine-language-in-gop…
All the way back to Trump's original platform, it was anti-Ukraine
anyone know why?
I can't figure it out
For more google "manaforts change of republican platform" and "2016 GOP platform change"
Reading about world events and getting here is bad?
Your reply does make me understand somethings a little better though, I think
There’s more to this story……..
Seems the US has been delving in to Ukraine for sometime.
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Reading about world events and getting here is bad?
Your reply does make me understand somethings a little better though, I think
Javelin Missiles versus Blankets...if I recall...from The Political Fervor of the era.
"The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in December 2017 -- a step that former President Barack Obama never took and that Trump allies have pointed to as a sign of Trump's toughness on Russia. Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its eastern provinces since 2014, shortly after Russia illegally occupied and annexed Crimea, in a war that has claimed approximately 13,000 lives and displaced 1.5 million people, according to the Ukrainian government."
Article...from a source that "my team" doesn't like...which is why I 'went there'...
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Non-Moto,21/Trump-Ukraine-Question-I-did-not-realize,1400332?unread
And, to be clear, this is all from 'the phone call' that begot an Impeachment.
A question, where's the impeachment for the guy that surrendered Afghanistan to a bunch of terrorists?
(Asking for a friend
"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Thank you.
All roads lead to Trump with you. It’s amazing, and a little disconcerting. Maybe you should get help as you clearly can’t get past it. That’s all.
Did you read my opinion in the Dumbgeon about politicians, lawyers, and short ropes? 🤠
That assistance also included some 230 armored Humvee vehicles.
Trump appears to be echoing a critique leveled at the Obama administration by the late Republican Sen. John McCain. “The Ukrainians are being slaughtered and we’re sending blankets and meals,” McCain said in 2015. “Blankets don’t do well against Russian tanks.”
While it never provided lethal aid, many of the items that the Obama administration did provide were seen as critical to Ukraine’s military. Part of the $250 million assistance package that the Trump administration announced (then froze and later unfroze) included many of the same items that were provided under Obama, including medical equipment, night vision gear and counter-artillery radar.
The Trump administration did approve the provision of arms to Ukraine, including sniper rifles, rocket launchers and Javelin anti-tank missiles, something long sought by Kiev.
What if (Conspiracy here), but what if Trump's "deal with the devil," never was with Putin, but was with Manafort, who made a deal with the real devil in this, Putin?
No accusations here, I totally forgot all the 2016 Ukraine part of this. This isn't simply "Hunter got paid," is it? Going back to 2016?
This makes no sense. Why did the GOP allow the platform change at the convention in 2016?
That's what was needed in the beginning.
Anyone ever get a line on "what" UAVs were sent by Obama?
For those of us in the biz, word was the Ravens never got sent...
Trump sent things that were needed to STOP Russians. That's what I get when I read all of the info that's out there from multiple sources.
Btw, where did you get your info?
If you'd rather my ask this question in the war thread?
14 months into Biden's admin and the world has gone to shit.
Pit Row
All the way back to 2016, long before the "perfect call," Trump (Or Manafort thru Trump) was trying to cut off and harm Ukraine to the benefit of Russia.
Am I getting that wrong?
‘Cause it was under the other guys watch that we got home confinement and face diapers.
Go ahead, I’ll wait.
I can honestly say...or ask...'WhyTF are we singling him out?" There are SOOOOOOO MANY instigators and shit talkers, name-callers, shit-disturbers, trouble makers...and my ABSOLUTE FAVORITES...The Virtuous Righteous Narrative Followers Of The Mainstream Media or...the WORST!...Doctorates of Social Media...
Yet, we're gonna single-out Dave? Nah. I don't think so. We...y'all...everyone...is..are...better than that.
Besides, you guys are dealing with Dave-Light.
Dave and I disagree on A LOT of shit.
He brings up A LOT of shit.
I stir up A LOT of shit in my posts, questions and responses.
It's the Web!
Someone has to post the Lighten Up, Francis thing...NOW!
If Dave and I can bury the hatchet? Well, then, y'all need to think on this a bit.
I'm jus' sayin'...
(Historically, that phrase pisses Dave OFF; so, that's another thing that's ALL HIS FAULT!
And even though we will disagree…No part of me hates him, or wants him to stop posting. Stay on topic? Just let something’s go sometimes? Sure and sure…but I don’t hate or even dislike him….and I’m sure I’m not alone.
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