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After 9/11 we we all came together as one huge family and as one nation together and helping your neighbor no matter who. And then...
Do you think anyone in the states with Middle Eastern heritage would look at it with the same rose colored glasses?
Yes
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TeamGreen wrote:
Didn’t say,”Biden Bad” I’m stating the obvious… He’s a Failure. Also, all I said was those of you that…support him…and notably -continue to do so- OWN...
Didn’t say,”Biden Bad”
I’m stating the obvious…
He’s a Failure.

Also, all I said was those of you that…support him…and notably -continue to do so- OWN THIS.

Furthermore. you go one to make further silly “sour grapes” comments that -never- came form me.

Dude, own your politics and stop trying to rewrite my mine.

Either own what you voted for or…don’t. But, remember that I…Manny…warned you about what an Epic Failure Joe was in Congress and as a Veep. He’s always been a joke; and, y’all voted for him…
For President.
Brother, you and your’s own this.
indy_maico wrote:
I totally own it. I voted for Biden in 2020 and would do it again, even knowing how the last 19 months turned out, considering that...
I totally own it.

I voted for Biden in 2020 and would do it again, even knowing how the last 19 months turned out, considering that the alternative was 4 more years of Trump.

Like I said, this bullshit we are going through, gas prices, inflation, whatever, is temporary, and a small price to pay considering that alternative.

I hope someone else runs on the Democratic side in 2024 though, as anyone in their 70's is too old to be president, let alone in their 80's as Biden would be.

I'm in my sixties and in a pretty plush job, and I'm wiped out at the end of a 10 hour day.

Can't even imagine the stress and pressure 24/7 of being POTUS

It's gotta be a young man's job to do it properly.

Nothing wrong with owning it. I voted for the Turd first time around. Didn’t make that mistake twice and wouldn’t dream of it in the 3rd to come.
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between 2 capable people of integrity. The system either destroys or prohibits decent folks from running. It's a cryin' shame fellas.
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7/28/2022 5:02pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Indy, you & those that gave us Joe Biden seem to almost intentionally need to spin things so as to miss the point: Joe said he...
Indy, you & those that gave us Joe Biden seem to almost intentionally need to spin things so as to miss the point:

Joe said he was gonna Shut Down COVID …not…
The Economy.
Go back and look it up.

He’s done EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.

Also, your attempt at a “per capita-ism” denies the absolute reality of the deadliness of The Original COVID versus the lightweight crap Joe has had to deal with.

Just like parts that come out of the autoclave: they’re either to spec it they’re not.

Joe and his policies are out of spec.

There is no spinning what a shit show Joe Biden is. From abandoning our people in AFG to shitting on the Economy to his total fail as a “Strong Leader”.
HE…and his weakness shown thru policy and failure…gave us a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
HE…thru his obvious disdain for the Oil Industry…started us down the path to $6.00-$7.00 a gallon fuel.

HE…is a failure.

Anyone that voted for him owns this.
Manny, you've got it all wrong, if you just redefine everything. He's a success!
You know, like redefining a recession from what we were always told it was.
If we just change the definition, or like maybe what a woman is, just keep changing
the definitions of what things are and expectations.
For instance, right now, we can say President Biden is the most successful president
in keeping VP Harris from becoming president. You just have to change your expectations.
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
plowboy wrote:
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between...
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between 2 capable people of integrity. The system either destroys or prohibits decent folks from running. It's a cryin' shame fellas.
Who would you suggest we vote for? I don't see the 2 sides coming together anytime soon. I see further division
and things getting worse before they get better. When was the last time both sides worked together?
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt himself. So the fact that they tried to silence him should tell you that the tweets were not a problem.
If someone you don't like is digging themself into a hole, you don't take a way their shovel, you give them a better one so they can dig faster.
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ToolMaker wrote:
Who would you suggest we vote for? I don't see the 2 sides coming together anytime soon. I see further division and things getting worse before...
Who would you suggest we vote for? I don't see the 2 sides coming together anytime soon. I see further division
and things getting worse before they get better. When was the last time both sides worked together?
TM
That's easy...the last time they voted themselves a pay raiseWoohoo That really ain't true...I remember a long time ago...when they had to vote for their raises people would raise a stink. So one of those brainy sumbitches (probably a republican) said, "why don't we make our raises automatic and only VOTE to not give ourselves a raise". You better believe the congress was united that day. See...they can agree on somethingEvil
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
ToolMaker wrote:
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt...
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt himself. So the fact that they tried to silence him should tell you that the tweets were not a problem.
If someone you don't like is digging themself into a hole, you don't take a way their shovel, you give them a better one so they can dig faster.
TM
So you are saying that the Dems wanted him to keep tweeting but the Reps shut him down...I'm confused.Unsure
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indy_maico wrote:
OK. Manny. I'm with you. Let's be clear with the math. First COVID case was Feb 15 2020. Trump gone from office 11 months later. 437,302...
OK. Manny. I'm with you. Let's be clear with the math.

First COVID case was Feb 15 2020.

Trump gone from office 11 months later. 437,302 deaths as of Jan 20, 2021

Biden in office for 19 months of pandemic, or about 1.73 x as long as Trump. Deaths as of yesterday 1, 053, 969 or 616,667 since Biden took office.

If you take the 437, 302 under Trump, multiply by the 1.73 factor for the months that Biden has been in office, the death count would be 756, 532 under Biden, so he is under the Trump rate.

Considering that the virus spreads exponentially, well I'm not sure what the math is for that, but it would indicate that it should even much higher than what it is.

Numbers from: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
KennyT wrote:
You are not taking into account the weakening of the virus, typical liberal reaction to something that shows you are wrong. When the virus hit with...
You are not taking into account the weakening of the virus, typical liberal reaction to something that shows you are wrong.

When the virus hit with President Trump in office it came with a punch that was killing people at an alarming rate. They were trying it find treatments and nothing was working to lesson the symptoms.

FF to Joeys term, or what I like to call “America’s sentence”. Joey has vaccines, treatments that work and most importantly a virus that has weakened to a common cold/flu. His death count is still out of control with all of the weapons he had at his disposal.

Sorry but your numbers are way off, just like Joeys brain
lestat wrote:
Covid deaths would be the exact same if Jesus or Satan were the president at the time . You guys can turn anything into a partisan...
Covid deaths would be the exact same if Jesus or Satan were the president at the time . You guys can turn anything into a partisan shitfest 🤣🤣🤣
Satan is President
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
plowboy wrote:
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between...
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between 2 capable people of integrity. The system either destroys or prohibits decent folks from running. It's a cryin' shame fellas.
The job of president is not a job someone with integrity would seek out
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
plowboy wrote:
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between...
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between 2 capable people of integrity. The system either destroys or prohibits decent folks from running. It's a cryin' shame fellas.
vet323 wrote:
The job of president is not a job someone with integrity would seek out
Those who desire power rarely deserve it, and those who deserve power rarely desire it.
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plowboy wrote:
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between...
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between 2 capable people of integrity. The system either destroys or prohibits decent folks from running. It's a cryin' shame fellas.
vet323 wrote:
The job of president is not a job someone with integrity would seek out
Sully wrote:
Those who desire power rarely deserve it, and those who deserve power rarely desire it.
Plato?
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Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep...
Hillary actually started this mess. Trump won because no one wanted her and chose the dipshit on the other side. Trump couldn’t just relax and keep his mouth shut and turned off to many middle
Ground voters so they chose the dipshit “biden” on the other side. Rinse and repeat.
ToolMaker wrote:
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt...
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt himself. So the fact that they tried to silence him should tell you that the tweets were not a problem.
If someone you don't like is digging themself into a hole, you don't take a way their shovel, you give them a better one so they can dig faster.
TM
plowboy wrote:
So you are saying that the Dems wanted him to keep tweeting but the Reps shut him down...I'm confused.Unsure
I'm saying he got shut down because they didn't like him setting the narrative and the media playing defense. They didn't know how to handle that he could communicate directly to his supporters. They couldn't deal with that so they had to silence him.
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tuggy450 wrote:
Some replies here leave me just shaking my damn head. I've sort of woken up to the fact that the Country is in the middle of...
Some replies here leave me just shaking my damn head.

I've sort of woken up to the fact that the Country is in the middle of a civil war, Just most don't know it yet, Including myself up until just a short while ago.

The Country is gone, has been from the moment as a Country we have allowed one side to obstruct the Peaceful transfer of power to Trump in 2017. Rioting during Trump's inauguration, talk of impeachment before ever taking office. Spying on a candidate and sitting president.

Now that same side after using the DOJ to obstruct Trump, complain about a guy with horns in the capital.

There was a coup d e'tat and it was the Socialist Party that succeeded.
Meanwhile the country is divided, I cannot believe some socialist stupidity here but considering an Oregon poster I'll assume it is just something they are indoctrinated into. Hopefully the guy will grow up and realize one day what taxes are how they work and when he's homeless on the streets of Oregon he'll wonder why no companies are around to hire workers. He'll lament why his loaf of bread costs 32 dollars.

Unfortunately I'm not sure if any of this is fixable and that is why you cannot allow the seeds of Socialism to form a root. For in the end you will have to defend your freedom liberty with your life from those who would entitle themselves to the fruits of someone else's labors.

If the Country is not willing to do this, as bad as it sounds, it will continue down the dark road paved by the liberal new world order socialists. These two vastly differing ideologies are not going to exist peacefully. Nor should they.
I've already picked my side History tells me I've made the right decision.

If it comes to slinging lead at each other?, That's something we should have thought about before we let the Seeds of Socialism take root in the country.
Whenever you have a group of people who believe there is a collective entitlement to the assets of others you are going to have violence. Don't want to believe it? I guess you've never been robbed.



You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever. I have a solid family, am well educated and have a six-figure job at a company that is based out of Texas...where a lot of my coworkers are gun-toting, flag-waving "REAL" Americans, yet we get along great.

I don't believe in socialism either. I also don't believe Capitalism is working as intended as well. It's eating the working-class to feed the very wealthiest and BOTH sides are complicit, but one side is more complicit by leaps and bounds by the others.

Lastly, you're one of the most ignorant mf'ers on this board. I'll pray for you, again.
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You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever...
You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever. I have a solid family, am well educated and have a six-figure job at a company that is based out of Texas...where a lot of my coworkers are gun-toting, flag-waving "REAL" Americans, yet we get along great.

I don't believe in socialism either. I also don't believe Capitalism is working as intended as well. It's eating the working-class to feed the very wealthiest and BOTH sides are complicit, but one side is more complicit by leaps and bounds by the others.

Lastly, you're one of the most ignorant mf'ers on this board. I'll pray for you, again.
I'm putting your name on my list...of decent folkWink
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7/28/2022 7:02pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2022 7:04pm
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Those who desire power rarely deserve it, and those who deserve power rarely desire it.
If the cows ain't out, the windmill's busted ~Uncle Bryan.

Let me know if that gets by you.
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tuggy450 wrote:
Some replies here leave me just shaking my damn head. I've sort of woken up to the fact that the Country is in the middle of...
Some replies here leave me just shaking my damn head.

I've sort of woken up to the fact that the Country is in the middle of a civil war, Just most don't know it yet, Including myself up until just a short while ago.

The Country is gone, has been from the moment as a Country we have allowed one side to obstruct the Peaceful transfer of power to Trump in 2017. Rioting during Trump's inauguration, talk of impeachment before ever taking office. Spying on a candidate and sitting president.

Now that same side after using the DOJ to obstruct Trump, complain about a guy with horns in the capital.

There was a coup d e'tat and it was the Socialist Party that succeeded.
Meanwhile the country is divided, I cannot believe some socialist stupidity here but considering an Oregon poster I'll assume it is just something they are indoctrinated into. Hopefully the guy will grow up and realize one day what taxes are how they work and when he's homeless on the streets of Oregon he'll wonder why no companies are around to hire workers. He'll lament why his loaf of bread costs 32 dollars.

Unfortunately I'm not sure if any of this is fixable and that is why you cannot allow the seeds of Socialism to form a root. For in the end you will have to defend your freedom liberty with your life from those who would entitle themselves to the fruits of someone else's labors.

If the Country is not willing to do this, as bad as it sounds, it will continue down the dark road paved by the liberal new world order socialists. These two vastly differing ideologies are not going to exist peacefully. Nor should they.
I've already picked my side History tells me I've made the right decision.

If it comes to slinging lead at each other?, That's something we should have thought about before we let the Seeds of Socialism take root in the country.
Whenever you have a group of people who believe there is a collective entitlement to the assets of others you are going to have violence. Don't want to believe it? I guess you've never been robbed.



IanMac138 wrote:
You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever...
You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever. I have a solid family, am well educated and have a six-figure job at a company that is based out of Texas...where a lot of my coworkers are gun-toting, flag-waving "REAL" Americans, yet we get along great.

I don't believe in socialism either. I also don't believe Capitalism is working as intended as well. It's eating the working-class to feed the very wealthiest and BOTH sides are complicit, but one side is more complicit by leaps and bounds by the others.

Lastly, you're one of the most ignorant mf'ers on this board. I'll pray for you, again.
Hey Ian,

You mad, Bro?

Grinning
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7/28/2022 7:48pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2022 8:08pm
ToolMaker wrote:
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt...
Logic says otherwise. If and that's a big if, Trump's tweets hurt him then the obvious answer would be to let him tweet to further hurt himself. So the fact that they tried to silence him should tell you that the tweets were not a problem.
If someone you don't like is digging themself into a hole, you don't take a way their shovel, you give them a better one so they can dig faster.
TM
plowboy wrote:
So you are saying that the Dems wanted him to keep tweeting but the Reps shut him down...I'm confused.Unsure
ToolMaker wrote:
I'm saying he got shut down because they didn't like him setting the narrative and the media playing defense. They didn't know how to handle that...
I'm saying he got shut down because they didn't like him setting the narrative and the media playing defense. They didn't know how to handle that he could communicate directly to his supporters. They couldn't deal with that so they had to silence him.
TM
Incorrect. He was banished because of the big lie and the Damage done because of it. Something he continues to perpetuate. This discussion is the perfect example of why. Communicating lies directly to his supporters is what got him bounced and rightfully so. Some people just don't get it and never will. I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if there was something.... anything in the way of evidence to prove what he says is true. But there isn't despite everything. As incompetent as Biden and the Dems and the lefties and the progressives and the Socialists are you wouldn't think they would be able to suppress all of this supposed evidence that proves his claims to the contrary. But let's be honest you and I both know he lost and so does he which speaks to his character or lack of same. I'm not sure what that says about people who continue to believe it. The fact that they bounced the lying POS is no great loss. Stop trying to make excuses for someone who doesn't deserve it.
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And just to remind everyone. No matter what went down on Jan 6th, the fact remains that Biden is a lying pedophile POS and we are all paying for his incompetence.
President Trump will come to our rescue, just like he did in 2016 🇺🇸
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KennyT wrote:
And just to remind everyone. No matter what went down on Jan 6th, the fact remains that Biden is a lying pedophile POS and we are...
And just to remind everyone. No matter what went down on Jan 6th, the fact remains that Biden is a lying pedophile POS and we are all paying for his incompetence.
President Trump will come to our rescue, just like he did in 2016 🇺🇸
I used to be disgusted but now I'm just amused.Laughing
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KennyT wrote:
And just to remind everyone. No matter what went down on Jan 6th, the fact remains that Biden is a lying pedophile POS and we are...
And just to remind everyone. No matter what went down on Jan 6th, the fact remains that Biden is a lying pedophile POS and we are all paying for his incompetence.
President Trump will come to our rescue, just like he did in 2016 🇺🇸
BMSOBx2 wrote:
I used to be disgusted but now I'm just amused.Laughing
I try to do my best 😂
I should probably do some editing 🧐
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vet323 wrote:
The job of president is not a job someone with integrity would seek out
Sully wrote:
Those who desire power rarely deserve it, and those who deserve power rarely desire it.
TeamGreen wrote:
Plato?
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tuggy450 wrote:
Some replies here leave me just shaking my damn head. I've sort of woken up to the fact that the Country is in the middle of...
Some replies here leave me just shaking my damn head.

I've sort of woken up to the fact that the Country is in the middle of a civil war, Just most don't know it yet, Including myself up until just a short while ago.

The Country is gone, has been from the moment as a Country we have allowed one side to obstruct the Peaceful transfer of power to Trump in 2017. Rioting during Trump's inauguration, talk of impeachment before ever taking office. Spying on a candidate and sitting president.

Now that same side after using the DOJ to obstruct Trump, complain about a guy with horns in the capital.

There was a coup d e'tat and it was the Socialist Party that succeeded.
Meanwhile the country is divided, I cannot believe some socialist stupidity here but considering an Oregon poster I'll assume it is just something they are indoctrinated into. Hopefully the guy will grow up and realize one day what taxes are how they work and when he's homeless on the streets of Oregon he'll wonder why no companies are around to hire workers. He'll lament why his loaf of bread costs 32 dollars.

Unfortunately I'm not sure if any of this is fixable and that is why you cannot allow the seeds of Socialism to form a root. For in the end you will have to defend your freedom liberty with your life from those who would entitle themselves to the fruits of someone else's labors.

If the Country is not willing to do this, as bad as it sounds, it will continue down the dark road paved by the liberal new world order socialists. These two vastly differing ideologies are not going to exist peacefully. Nor should they.
I've already picked my side History tells me I've made the right decision.

If it comes to slinging lead at each other?, That's something we should have thought about before we let the Seeds of Socialism take root in the country.
Whenever you have a group of people who believe there is a collective entitlement to the assets of others you are going to have violence. Don't want to believe it? I guess you've never been robbed.



IanMac138 wrote:
You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever...
You turd. I come from a conservative family in Southern California and a conservative leaning county at that. I won't be asking you for help, ever. I have a solid family, am well educated and have a six-figure job at a company that is based out of Texas...where a lot of my coworkers are gun-toting, flag-waving "REAL" Americans, yet we get along great.

I don't believe in socialism either. I also don't believe Capitalism is working as intended as well. It's eating the working-class to feed the very wealthiest and BOTH sides are complicit, but one side is more complicit by leaps and bounds by the others.

Lastly, you're one of the most ignorant mf'ers on this board. I'll pray for you, again.
TeamGreen wrote:
Hey Ian,

You mad, Bro?

Grinning
Yeah, I was, to be honest.
Being called out as a socialist, indoctrinated "Oregonian" who will "grow up and realize one day what taxes are how they work and when he's homeless on the streets of Oregon he'll wonder why no companies are around to hire workers. He'll lament why his loaf of bread costs 32 dollars" when this old fart knows nothing about me. I mean for fucks sake, his name is Tuggy450. He's a bomb-throwing ignorant SOB and I shouldn't have let it get to me. But I would love to see him at the track sometime...
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APLMAN99 wrote:
When I see the Trump signs or flags, I assume that the house is occupied by some of these fans and cult members…..

ToolMaker wrote:
It's really funny watching the news. When ever they do a "left" thing, they try to find the most articulate person to interview. When they do...
It's really funny watching the news. When ever they do a "left" thing, they try to find the most articulate person to interview. When they do a "right" the put the dumbest person they can find on. But hey, I guess I'm just one of those smelly walmart people that people make fun of. If thinking our government should take care of the people here first, wanting peace in the middle east, getting North Korea to start the path to being civilized, not have inflation like the 70s,
get some control of our borders, have a good economy so my kids can someday own a house/home. IF those things make me a bad person, I'll wear that badge, with honor.
TM
APLMAN99 wrote:
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’. To...
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’.

To be honest, I don’t think that all, or even most, Trump supporters are like the folks that Klepper shows. Of course he edits his shows to only include the ‘good’ ones. But those seem to be the ones who decorate their lawns and homes with symbols of their idolatry.

Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

That is some scary shit and definitely harkens to the early 30s Germany who sold out to a charismatic sociopath who was aided by people allowing him to circumvent their election and leadership processes.
"I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’.
Not really sure where that came from but I'd be interested to see what I posted that made you think that.
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7/29/2022 6:19am
APLMAN99 wrote:
When I see the Trump signs or flags, I assume that the house is occupied by some of these fans and cult members…..

ToolMaker wrote:
It's really funny watching the news. When ever they do a "left" thing, they try to find the most articulate person to interview. When they do...
It's really funny watching the news. When ever they do a "left" thing, they try to find the most articulate person to interview. When they do a "right" the put the dumbest person they can find on. But hey, I guess I'm just one of those smelly walmart people that people make fun of. If thinking our government should take care of the people here first, wanting peace in the middle east, getting North Korea to start the path to being civilized, not have inflation like the 70s,
get some control of our borders, have a good economy so my kids can someday own a house/home. IF those things make me a bad person, I'll wear that badge, with honor.
TM
APLMAN99 wrote:
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’. To...
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’.

To be honest, I don’t think that all, or even most, Trump supporters are like the folks that Klepper shows. Of course he edits his shows to only include the ‘good’ ones. But those seem to be the ones who decorate their lawns and homes with symbols of their idolatry.

Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

That is some scary shit and definitely harkens to the early 30s Germany who sold out to a charismatic sociopath who was aided by people allowing him to circumvent their election and leadership processes.
Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

I think your question sets up a false narrative that leads to a false conclusion.
It's much simpler than that. The left is trying to push the narrative that people voted against Trump because he was "bad", then why would they pick something worse?
Hence, what has Biden done that things are better?
Kind of destroys an argument that they voted against "bad".
Given the choice, people usually don't pick the worst choice unless they have been misled.
TM
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7/29/2022 9:04am
Sully wrote:
Those who desire power rarely deserve it, and those who deserve power rarely desire it.
TeamGreen wrote:
Plato?
Sully wrote:
Nice!

I remember the premise goes all the way back to Plato; but, the length and “extended” reasoning seemed a bit more modern.
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7/29/2022 9:17am Edited Date/Time 7/29/2022 10:00am
ToolMaker wrote:
It's really funny watching the news. When ever they do a "left" thing, they try to find the most articulate person to interview. When they do...
It's really funny watching the news. When ever they do a "left" thing, they try to find the most articulate person to interview. When they do a "right" the put the dumbest person they can find on. But hey, I guess I'm just one of those smelly walmart people that people make fun of. If thinking our government should take care of the people here first, wanting peace in the middle east, getting North Korea to start the path to being civilized, not have inflation like the 70s,
get some control of our borders, have a good economy so my kids can someday own a house/home. IF those things make me a bad person, I'll wear that badge, with honor.
TM
APLMAN99 wrote:
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’. To...
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’.

To be honest, I don’t think that all, or even most, Trump supporters are like the folks that Klepper shows. Of course he edits his shows to only include the ‘good’ ones. But those seem to be the ones who decorate their lawns and homes with symbols of their idolatry.

Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

That is some scary shit and definitely harkens to the early 30s Germany who sold out to a charismatic sociopath who was aided by people allowing him to circumvent their election and leadership processes.
ToolMaker wrote:
Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because...
Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

I think your question sets up a false narrative that leads to a false conclusion.
It's much simpler than that. The left is trying to push the narrative that people voted against Trump because he was "bad", then why would they pick something worse?
Hence, what has Biden done that things are better?
Kind of destroys an argument that they voted against "bad".
Given the choice, people usually don't pick the worst choice unless they have been misled.
TM
There it is.

All the while, people on this very forum continue to support Biden and claim he’s “so much better than Trump” as they try to hide behind their hate and sheer ignorance: they’re somehow trying to rationalize their huge fuck up where-by they justify dead Americans, Iraqis, Ukrainians from disastrous foreign policy FAILS plus Mexicans/Latinos and others that’re unmentioned in the Border Disaster…
Then there’s the economy that’s hurting the poorer folks the most…isn’t it?
Shall we talk about the price of energy?
How about how Biden went and “blew” that Saudi murderer…?
Oh, remember the Waiver he gave Vlad for Norstream II as he shut down our Oil Infrastructure projects?

And still, these “Patriots” stand proud for electing a Socialist & Terrorist Nut Hugger.

Some have said this “Modern Leftism” is a Mental Disorder. I’m inclined to agree.

Such passionate and peace loving people…The Left…
NOT.

C U in November.
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7/29/2022 9:35am
APLMAN99 wrote:
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’. To...
I actually thought that you were one of the guys who swore that they never watched the news, they get their information from ‘other sources’.

To be honest, I don’t think that all, or even most, Trump supporters are like the folks that Klepper shows. Of course he edits his shows to only include the ‘good’ ones. But those seem to be the ones who decorate their lawns and homes with symbols of their idolatry.

Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

That is some scary shit and definitely harkens to the early 30s Germany who sold out to a charismatic sociopath who was aided by people allowing him to circumvent their election and leadership processes.
ToolMaker wrote:
Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because...
Just for kicks and giggles, a lot of people keep asking the ‘What has Biden done that has been good?” question. Are they asking that because they think that whatever he has done makes it worth throwing out our entire constitution and ideals to appoint a man/idol such as Trump president despite not having the electoral votes? When people try to deflect that way it really seems as though they would rather be a Trump subject than a free American living under constitutional rule. As if Biden’s perceived poor progress would justify not following the actual peaceful transfer of power that is codified in our constitution, basically making Trump a monarch.

I think your question sets up a false narrative that leads to a false conclusion.
It's much simpler than that. The left is trying to push the narrative that people voted against Trump because he was "bad", then why would they pick something worse?
Hence, what has Biden done that things are better?
Kind of destroys an argument that they voted against "bad".
Given the choice, people usually don't pick the worst choice unless they have been misled.
TM
TeamGreen wrote:
There it is. All the while, people on this very forum continue to support Biden and claim he’s “so much better than Trump” as they try...
There it is.

All the while, people on this very forum continue to support Biden and claim he’s “so much better than Trump” as they try to hide behind their hate and sheer ignorance: they’re somehow trying to rationalize their huge fuck up where-by they justify dead Americans, Iraqis, Ukrainians from disastrous foreign policy FAILS plus Mexicans/Latinos and others that’re unmentioned in the Border Disaster…
Then there’s the economy that’s hurting the poorer folks the most…isn’t it?
Shall we talk about the price of energy?
How about how Biden went and “blew” that Saudi murderer…?
Oh, remember the Waiver he gave Vlad for Norstream II as he shut down our Oil Infrastructure projects?

And still, these “Patriots” stand proud for electing a Socialist & Terrorist Nut Hugger.

Some have said this “Modern Leftism” is a Mental Disorder. I’m inclined to agree.

Such passionate and peace loving people…The Left…
NOT.

C U in November.
I wish I could give you two thumbs up. 👍
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7/29/2022 9:58am
plowboy wrote:
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between...
What does it say that folks vote AGAINST someone and not FOR someone? Something is inherently wrong when a country of this size can't choose between 2 capable people of integrity. The system either destroys or prohibits decent folks from running. It's a cryin' shame fellas.
The problem is the craziess and old folks vote in the primaries.
The middle people only vote in general elections.
If more people showed up to primaries and spent more time listening to and researching the possible candidates we'd have much better politicians.
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