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Our government is demanding that veterans pay back re-signing bonuses from 10 years ago.
They are claiming that these bonuses were only supposed to go to "high value" needs and were
given out to those that "didn't deserve" it. I say our government is so effed up to do shit like this.
Our veterans are treated so poorly it's criminal. As if we need another reason to to know how
corrupt and dishonest our government is. Those in government do and get away with any and
everything that us common folks would spend years in jail for. Now they want to ruin those people
who didn't steal money but received a bonus for doing what is arguably one of the most honorable
and shitty jobs in the whole world. They don't want to just have the bonus back but interest as well.
I swear these folks are like that puss that comes out from under the scab!!
BTW, I'm not a veteran, just someone who hates how bad they are treated.
TM
The better solution is that they retroactively give the bonus to everyone that didn't get it!!!
They are claiming that these bonuses were only supposed to go to "high value" needs and were
given out to those that "didn't deserve" it. I say our government is so effed up to do shit like this.
Our veterans are treated so poorly it's criminal. As if we need another reason to to know how
corrupt and dishonest our government is. Those in government do and get away with any and
everything that us common folks would spend years in jail for. Now they want to ruin those people
who didn't steal money but received a bonus for doing what is arguably one of the most honorable
and shitty jobs in the whole world. They don't want to just have the bonus back but interest as well.
I swear these folks are like that puss that comes out from under the scab!!
BTW, I'm not a veteran, just someone who hates how bad they are treated.
TM
The better solution is that they retroactively give the bonus to everyone that didn't get it!!!
However it's been 10 years, there's a point you can't take money back. I think 10 years is past that point
On an annual basis, with no end in sight. My mother in law get $500ish monthly Social Security for having worked
her all her life in a factory where she earned just enough to raise her kids as a single Mom. But come here as an
Illegal and get thousands. Mind boggling!!!!
TM
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Not even close tot he same thing!! Soldiers were told "if you re-sign we'll pay you"
They then made a decision to re-sign based on the incentive that they were wrongly
pitched. Not only that many of them are disabled now because of it.
In your scenario someone is expecting a specific bonus and the amount is wrong, and
the person may or may not bring it to someone's attention knowing they were over paid.
TM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/24/pentagon-demands-return-cash-bonus…
The Pentagon is seeking to recover decade-old reenlistment bonuses paid to thousands of California Army National Guard soldiers to go fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday.
The paper reported that nearly 10,000 soldiers, many of whom risked their lives during multiple combat tours, have been ordered to repay the cash bonuses after audits revealed widespread overpayments by California Guard officials under pressure to meet enlistment targets at the height of the wars 10 years ago.
But soldiers say the military is reneging on old agreements and imposing severe financial hardship on those whose only mistake was to accept the bonuses, which amounted to $15,000 or more.
The Army asked wounded Iraq veteran and former Army captain Christopher Van Meter, 42, to repay a $25,000 reenlistment bonus it said he was ineligible to receive. He was also asked to repay $21,000 in student loan repayments.
Van Meter told the paper that rather than fight the Army he paid back the money after refinancing his home.
“These bonuses were used to keep people in,” Van Meter said. “People like me just got screwed.”
The Times reported that 48-year-old Army sergeant Robert Richmond, who suffered permanent injuries in an Iraq roadside bomb attack, is refusing to repay his $15,000 cash bonus. The Army contends he was ineligible to receive the bonus in 2006 because he had already served 20 years in the Army.
“I signed a contract that I literally risked my life to fulfill,” Richmond told the paper. “We want somebody in the government, anybody, to say this is wrong and we’ll stop going after his money.”
Investigations determined that fraud and mismanagement due to poor oversight contributed to the California Guard bonus overpayments, according to the Times.
California Guard officials conceded to the paper that taking back the money from military veterans is distasteful.
“At the end of the day, the soldiers ended up paying the largest price,” Maj. Gen. Matthew Beevers, deputy commander of the California Guard, said. “We’d be more than happy to absolve these people of their debts. We just can’t do it. We’d be breaking the law.”
On Sunday, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said in a statement the Department of Defense should "waive these repayments," and that the House "will investigate these reports to ensure our soldiers are fully honored for their service.”
"It is disgraceful that the men and women who answered their country's call to duty following September 11 are now facing forced repayments of bonuses offered to them. Our military heroes should not shoulder the burden of military recruiters' faults from over a decade ago," he said. "They should not owe for what was promised during a difficult time in our country. Rather, we are the ones who owe a debt for the great sacrifices our heroes have made - some of whom unfortunately paid the ultimate sacrifice.."
Click for more from the Los Angeles Times.
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell
The state should bear this responsibility.
Does the Pentagon operate at the pleasure of the state of California? Did California offer the bonuses or ask for them to be paid back?
https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U
Now, 10 years later, the fraud was discovered and we have a mess to no fault of the soldiers.
it's the recruiters and auditors that need to be beaten with a stick. repeatedly.
Pit Row
The soldiers didn't know that they were given unauthorized bonuses. The problem lies with the "recruiters", not the soldiers.
Now if this were a case of them being overpaid the money promised them, I could understand them being asked to repay the overage. But it doesn't appear to be so.
He said, (not word for word) This is one of the dumbest things to happen. As much money
as has been wasted on other things and now they want to get money from our military
men and women that put themselves in harms way, just stupid. The Defense Sec has the
power with his pen to make this all go away without waiting for congressional intervention.
He said Ash Carter should write it off and move on.
However they (congress) will start measures to stop this idiocy in case he doesn't.
At least some still value what those in the military do for us.
He also said that right now it's not as wide spread so many folks don't know about it because
the issue just came up when CA got audited, when they audit the other states the same thing
will happen there so they need to resolve this NOW.
Thank you Duncan Hunter for trying to do whats right for our young men and women that got
wrongfully bribed into extending their service time to our country.
TM
TM
Anyway I understand it the same way, it's not just a CA issue.
Members of Congress are already lining up to be the first to get credit for standing up against the injustice to our soldiers. Especially those up for reelection. I hate sounding cynical but I wonder if some would be so outraged or concerned if not for reelection. Anyway I would guess there is goin to be enough pressure to get it fixed. Just hope it's not one of those things that gets a bunch of lip service and attention then is never really dealt with.
As an optimist, I choose to believe that Duncan is one of the good guys. He also has enough clout to effect the change he sets out to.
TM
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