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Let me start this by saying I have a degree in engineering and consider myself at least somewhat competent.
With that said, i was turned on to the moon landing conspiracy by some of those dumb conspiracy videos on youtube. Generally they are mildly entertaining, good for seeing what people think up. Then I watched one on the moon landings and it caught my attention, some interesting points made that even Nasa doesnt have an explination for.
I also listen to the Joe Rogan podcast, and in a few of them he mentioned his uncertainty about the moon landings and a few of the strange coincidences he has noticed. Since that, Ive been going down the rabbit hole looking into this. I watched the documentaries made by Bart Sibrel and I have to say, they are pretty damning. The way the astronauts act when Sibrel mentions he obtained some footage showing them faking a shot of being halfway to the moon is..... bizzare. They quickly get hostile, defensive, etc... one guy even starts running away from Sibrel. Not exactly the behavior of honest people.
Does anyone else share this sentiment? I pretty much know that we faked the moon landings, the evidence in my eyes is very clear. Of course, like a good conspiracy theorist, Im going online to talk about it so I dont seem crazy to those around me.
With that said, i was turned on to the moon landing conspiracy by some of those dumb conspiracy videos on youtube. Generally they are mildly entertaining, good for seeing what people think up. Then I watched one on the moon landings and it caught my attention, some interesting points made that even Nasa doesnt have an explination for.
I also listen to the Joe Rogan podcast, and in a few of them he mentioned his uncertainty about the moon landings and a few of the strange coincidences he has noticed. Since that, Ive been going down the rabbit hole looking into this. I watched the documentaries made by Bart Sibrel and I have to say, they are pretty damning. The way the astronauts act when Sibrel mentions he obtained some footage showing them faking a shot of being halfway to the moon is..... bizzare. They quickly get hostile, defensive, etc... one guy even starts running away from Sibrel. Not exactly the behavior of honest people.
Does anyone else share this sentiment? I pretty much know that we faked the moon landings, the evidence in my eyes is very clear. Of course, like a good conspiracy theorist, Im going online to talk about it so I dont seem crazy to those around me.
The Shop
why would the Russians keep it quiet? as 1960's Russia would have loved for it to be fake and be able to embarrass the US,
Once I realized how much of our 20th Century media coverage was faked and influenced by government propaganda, it at least entered the realm of possibility for me that the USA faked the moon landings, or the TV broadcast, to win the Cold War. We still could have gone later but faked the original. The other crazy story is Walter Cronkite cutting away from a live feed on a later Apollo mission because a large structure appeared on the screen (millions of people apparently saw this).
Is there anything in your storage of evidence that disproves this?
Anyway, a few aspects that I find interesting.
1) We dont have the original telemetry data from the missions. Apparently we were "running low" on magnetic reel tape at some point, and then recycled the moon landing tapes. We taped over the moon landing tapes. Ok, sure. Only mankinds greatest achivement. Yea, tape over that.
2) Nasa now claims they dont have the technology to make it through the Van Allen belts... They HAD it in 1969, but it was "destroyed" and would be too hard to remake. Ummm... Ok? That makes no sense.
3) The international space station is about 250 ish miles away from the earths surface. The US, China, and Russia havnt sent any manned space missions past about ~350 miles.... Since the moon landings. How far away is the moon? ~238,000 miles!!! Youre telling me no one in the world has made it out of low earth orbit since the "moon landings," yet in 1969 we just breezed right out there so easily we did it 6 times? Come on now.
4) plenty of photographic stuff, but what gets me is the damn lunar lander. It looks to be held together by staples and tape!! "Oh you dummy, thats special nasa space tape!" Plus, there is no evidence of any disturbance of the surface from the blast of the landing rocket. Surely a 10,000 lb rocket would make at least a pattern in the dust, right? Nope, but the footprints are clear as day.
5) The seeming ease in which we did it. I dont think in the history of technology has a flying craft worked on the first try. Yet the lunar lander seemed to work perfectly. Even blasting off from the lunar surface and mating up with an orbiter traveling at 4,000 mph, perfectly, every time. Yet even today, Nasa has had all kinds of failures doing what should be simple missions of sending supplies into low earth orbit. But in 1969 they were just so on top of it that they were able to get all of that crap perfect?
6) Footage of the apollo 11 astronauts faking a video of them being halfway to the moon. It was either accidentally or intentionally sent to the reporter, but its a video of them holding a camera a few feet from a circular window in low earth orbit, in doing so, makes the earth look like a small ball when the lights are out in the craft. As the lights come back on, its obvious they are in low earth orbit. Why the trickery?
7) they occured during the nixon administration, an administration not known for being truthful.
Im not saying everything about the moon landings is fake. My guess is that they sent guys up into low earth orbit, had them orbit the earth for a few days, then splash down when the mission was over. Nasa had a small satellite in space to simulate them recieving signals from apollo, which conveniently "crashed into the pacific" a few days before the missions. Im gonna assume they simply fed the control room guys more simulated data so they werent in on it, and only the tiipy top people knew what was actually going on.
As far as russia, how do we know they actually tracked apollo? Its far more likely that we sent something to the moon for them to track, just without any humans in it. And maybe they do know we faked it, and are using it as blackmail against the US for trade deals and what not.
All im posing is that you take a non-judgemental look at the fact that it could have been faked instead of reverting to God-worship of Nasa and the astronauts, and condeming me to idiocy for looking into it. Like I said, Im not a dumb person, and I did stumble onto it through those dumb conspiracy videos, but what I found was pretty hard for me to ignore.
I'm only going to reflect on a few of your points here.
Point 2: It was a NASA astronaut who said this(well not exactly in those terms), not the agency itself. The crews in the Apollo missions did get exposed to radiation passing through the Van Allen belts. With the technology of today, with some of the advancements in computers, guidance systems, etc. strong radiation could pose a strong threat to those devices. That's a problem that is needed to be solved (and this is the point that was made). For context here is the history and context of the myth:
Point 3: As you state at the start, you don't doubt we haven't put things on the moon. That just doesn't really add up. So you are saying we are capable of sending, positioning, and setting up structures/panels on the moon, mars, etc. but we can't get anything outside of 350 miles from the surface of the Earth? So although we have footage of these exact panels being setup (must be fake), they were actually set up by what? Rovers? We sent a rocket to the depths of our solar system and decades later were able to obtain high definition, quality, data of Pluto. Yet, we were never capable to send a manned rocket to the moon? There are reasons way beyond "not being able to do it" as to why we haven't had anything capable to send man to the moon since then. For one, the things we had that were powerful enough to get us there, got shut down by Congress.
Point 4: We have a satellite named Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) that can get within 50 km of the surface of the moon and has taken pretty HD photos of the Lunar mission sites. You can visually see the marks, descent, ascent, etc. I'm guessing that this point is easy to say is just photoshop or fake.
Point 7: It began with Kennedy administration. Rockets aren't built over night. If it had been fake, a large scale event such as this would take an astronomical (get it?) amount of time and planning to get right. They'd have better chances getting to the moon.
"Im not saying everything about the moon landings is fake. My guess is that they sent guys up into low earth orbit, had them orbit the earth for a few days, then splash down when the mission was over. Nasa had a small satellite in space to simulate them recieving signals from apollo, which conveniently "crashed into the pacific" a few days before the missions. Im gonna assume they simply fed the control room guys more simulated data so they weren't in on it, and only the tiipy top people knew what was actually going on."
Seeing as I have visited mission control down in Houston Texas and knowing the way the did all the calculations and am learning some of the math involved, there would be absolutely no way they could bullshit that type of data.Not without the entire team being in on it.
Again I want to reiterate, MASSIVE scale to fake and fund. For trade deals? To be the "first"? Battle of the super powers? Could it have been fake? Maybe. My opinion is, we had a better realistic shot of landing man on the moon, than we did faking it.
I don't know if you have ever had the chance, but if you ever get a chance to visit NASA down in Houston Texas definitely do. One of the coolest things I have ever seen. It's partly what got me interested into my physics/engineering degrees. Walking into the hangar and seeing the sheer size of the Saturn rocket really puts into perspective of just how incredible it all is. They walk you through the labs and stuff and you can see real projects (what they can show you) going on. Really cool stuff.
We, with out a doubt, could do it today. We can launch rockets that come back down and vertically land on a small target barges in the middle of the ocean, only to be able to be relaunch a month later! That's crazy!
Pit Row
You do bring some interesting points. Mainly 3. I’m gonna have to do some reading because that doesn’t sound right.
Its odd how almost every single person will admit to telling lies, but nobody wants to believe they have been sold one.
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it and eventually they will believe it.
To deny that there are problems with the moon landing story is Keeping your eyes wide shut.
We'll even sort of believe things we know are lies, like the lie that Saddam Hussein conducted the 9/11 attacks and had weapons of mass destruction. We don't even punish the liars and war criminals, we just continue to accept the lie, and continue the system they created to lie to us, cheat us, and take our money and liberty.
Governments can’t build a functioning healthcare website for a few small payments of hundreds of millions of dollars. You think they could do a cover up to this magnitude and stay committed to it for decades? Thats some real trust in government lol.
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/05/28/that-time-when-buzz-aldrin-pu…
And how many folks know but refuse to confirm that RV is a cyborg.
The ability of so many people to keep secrets, amazing, just amazing.
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