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Yep, it ain't fo everbody...this livin in the USA!
https://youtu.be/TybkYXx1FAQ
Somebody get me a cheeseburger!
However, I'd like to point out the flaw I perceive in CM_84's logic. He states that he doesn't live in a country with such a shitty government that he needs to arm himself against it. Well, congratulations I say. To be honest, I don't feel the need to defend myself against the U.S. Government, either. But what about this: what if your government changes to something less desirable? What if you get an elected leader or a group that decides not to cede power when the allotted term is up? What if that person or group in power decides to assassinate all opposing parties? Levy unrealistic and unsustainable taxes on you? Quarter troops in your house? Demand your firstborn be drafted into the army? Kill you and sell your daughters into slavery? You may think I'm being hyperbolic here, but all of the atrocities I mention above have been committed by governments in the past. Some of them are happening today.
Folks, we can rely on the kindness of strangers and other countries to defend our freedoms or we can do it ourselves. THIS is the reason for the 2nd amendment, and our founding fathers put those rules in place to assure government by the people would survive. Guns are not about protection in your house, or hunting, or " 'Murica." The 2nd amendment is about preserving every other amendment on the Constitution.
There is truly only one thing that keeps those in power from abusing said power: the fear of losing it. Private gun ownership is a means to that end.
However I was being facetious. My point was we don’t live in a society where we have to worry about tyrannical governments taking all of our shit any more.
My second point was, the US doesn’t have mental illness at dramatically higher rates than the rest of the world, yet it does have mass shootings at dramatically higher rates than the rest of the world.
The US is a great country, just like most modern societies.
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If there is a chance of it, we need to really worry because our military is designed to protect us from other countries military, not our own people. All my tax money is wasted.
Consider this before you talk about paranoia.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Mao Tze Tung, communist dictator of China said:
“War can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.”
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Idi Amin, president of Uganda from 1971 to 1979, said:
“I do not want to be controlled by any superpower. I myself consider myself the most powerful figure in the world, and that is why I do not let any superpower control me.”
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Pol Pot, who created in Cambodia one of the 20th century’s most brutal and radical regimes, was responsible for killing one million of his own ‘educated,’ yet unarmed citizens
Now look at the corruption we are seeing in our own FBI leadership that was put in place under Obama.
Wow
But those investigations are being proven to be BS. Look at all the bias in the FBI leadership. That is just an example of something I would have never thought would happen in this country.
Is there even any other country in the world that has such a thing?
The paranoia is rather mind boggling...
No, the way Barry jammed his agenda down our throats at the 11th hour, the stuff the squad of 3 wants to do, the above fbi behavior, to just sit back
with your head in the sand is, just, I dunno, wow.
If the powers that be would just kinda let it ride,
that's one thing. But it never ends. They always want more and more, and not from themselves. From the ones that actually work.
They're kinda like a cancer when you think about it.
Hence the need for the checks public guns provide.
https://youtu.be/ZwMVMbmQBug
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I think the only question that needs to be asked is: Is this loss of life an acceptable sacrifice for the right to bear arms?
If the answer in US citizens mind is yes, then the discussion ends now, and there should be no further reporting on it. If the answer is no then the discussion can begin around restrictions, background checks, permits, buy backs, amnestys and other techniques that have been used around the world and how they would be valid or innapropriate for the US.
But from what i see, it seems like in some peoples eyes at least its seen as an unfortunate cost of doing business.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_St…
And now some of the most conservative people I know are talking about "common sense gun reform." Well played deep state, well played.
By the way we have crocodiles here, alligators, bigger uglier and more aggresive cousin. If you want to start with the cultural digs at least be accurate mate.
I think it’s naive to think that criminals won’t still have guns with a ban, though, so even then there would not be a huge difference in gun deaths. There could actually be more, because people would be more vulnerable.
I think it’s total crap to accuse us of being ok with the deaths as the price we are willing to pay to own guns. If you don’t want guns, that’s your choice. Are you ok with not being able to defend your family if needed?
How about those kids in Columbine?
I think people find it easier to kill other people with a gun.....just my opinion
The murder rate will never be zero. But let’s try and get it as low as possible.
In Australia both the homicide rate and suicide rate absolutely did drop after the gun laws changed. Other countries have had similar results.
There will always be drink driving deaths, I have never heard anyone say that because it will never be zero let’s just allow people to drink whatever they want and get behind the wheel.
Firstly im not completely anti gun. I have guns personally and i know that banning them completely is unrealistic and impossible. Cant put toothpaste back in the tube.
Yes criminals will still have guns, criminals in australia still have guns, as do registered licensed gun owners. But making them harder to get a hold of can't be a bad thing, and i dont understand the argument that because some bad guys have guns, that everyone should be allowed to have them. All that does is ensure that all bad guys have guns.
Defending the family argument is very emotional and pulls on the heart strings, but statistically you're more likely to shoot yourself or a family member than save them. Not to mentioned logistically defending them with a gun isn't really the easiest thing to do either.
My suggestion is regulation not abolition of guns. Training, licensing, registration, restriction of certain weapons and certain high risk sections of society. I cant see how those things are impossible to do all while keeping the 2nd ammendment. After all it calls for a regulated militia, wheres the regulation at the moment?
mate.
All good mate
When other countries introduced gun control, I do not think bombings etc went up in frequency.
Again, I don’t think gun control solves the problem, I just think it helps, if it helps it is worth it in my eyes.
If you could choose to put an end to all mass shootings tomorrow, would you do it if the price you had to pay was submit to regulation and gun control. Eg. limits to weapons, licencing, restrictions pistols and semi auto/auto weapons?
Obviously its not that simple and nobody can guarantee no more atrocities even with gun control, as Australia and New Zealand have proven in recent times. But i think its just an interesting question that i ask with all due respect to try to get my head around how important guns are in your country that's all.
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