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No love for the Tacoma? You hate good resale value I guess?

Never seen a Frontier hold good resale but you can get pretty good deals on them versus the Yota.

newmann wrote:

No love for the Tacoma? You hate good resale value I guess?

Never seen a Frontier hold good resale but you can get pretty good deals on them versus the Yota.

I hate all toyotas, grear trucks for other people but I won't buy one. Rusty, over priced, pain in the asses to me. I won't even work on them anymore just can't fix anything on them quickly, and throw in the premium price for the trucks and parts. Can't do it.

The base model colorado's don't come with a full size spare what kinda pick up truck is it acceptable to put a mini tire on it???? Might as well buy a Ridgeline

newmann wrote:

No love for the Tacoma? You hate good resale value I guess?

Never seen a Frontier hold good resale but you can get pretty good deals on them versus the Yota.

colintrax wrote:

I hate all toyotas, grear trucks for other people but I won't buy one. Rusty, over priced, pain in the asses to me. I won't even work on them anymore just can't fix anything on them quickly, and throw in the premium price for the trucks and parts. Can't do it.

We got 5 years and 80,000 miles out of our 2002 Tacoma before an uninsured taxi ran a red light at 60 mph and totaled it out. No rust and nothing other than routine maintenance up to that point. Bought it new for 23k and insurance gave us $17,900.00 for it. Always a breeze working on a yota, so simple you can take 90 % of it apart with a Phillips and a 10mm.

Such a good vehicle we didn’t hesitate to replace it with another Tacoma. Now ten years old and only a single u joint other than routine maintenance. No rust on this one either.

Back in 2001 we got stuck with a standard cab swb 5 spd Frontier at work so I cleaned it up and did a few repairs and gave it to the oldest son for a first vehicle. In 202 the wife decided we would upgrade it to a new crew cab long bed Frontier. We found a Houston dealer who had a bunch in stock and was pricing them right. We loaded up and headed out on the 100 mile trek in the Nissan. When we were to take the exit for the dealer just south of Houston the wife keeps telling me to get over or I will miss the exit. I didn’t get over... just kept heading south to Alvin and the Toyota Dealer that sponsored our racing series. After 100 miles in that POS Nissan, no way was I going to buy another. I could barely walk when I got out of it at the dealer. What a turd. Oh, and those repairs I made before giving it to the son? Brakes on all four wheels and a clutch replacement and it only had 59,000 miles on it.

Tacoma or Tundra all day.

newmann wrote:

We got 5 years and 80,000 miles out of our 2002 Tacoma before an uninsured taxi ran a red light at 60 mph and totaled it out. No rust and nothing other than routine maintenance up to that point. Bought it new for 23k and insurance gave us $17,900.00 for it. Always a breeze working on a yota, so simple you can take 90 % of it apart with a Phillips and a 10mm.

Such a good vehicle we didn’t hesitate to replace it with another Tacoma. Now ten years old and only a single u joint other than routine maintenance. No rust on this one either.

Back in 2001 we got stuck with a standard cab swb 5 spd Frontier at work so I cleaned it up and did a few repairs and gave it to the oldest son for a first vehicle. In 202 the wife decided we would upgrade it to a new crew cab long bed Frontier. We found a Houston dealer who had a bunch in stock and was pricing them right. We loaded up and headed out on the 100 mile trek in the Nissan. When we were to take the exit for the dealer just south of Houston the wife keeps telling me to get over or I will miss the exit. I didn’t get over... just kept heading south to Alvin and the Toyota Dealer that sponsored our racing series. After 100 miles in that POS Nissan, no way was I going to buy another. I could barely walk when I got out of it at the dealer. What a turd. Oh, and those repairs I made before giving it to the son? Brakes on all four wheels and a clutch replacement and it only had 59,000 miles on it.

I won't deny Toyotas are damn good trucks, like I said they're good for other people. But I can't work on them to save my life, nothing is where I expect it, proportions never feel right, Toyotas just feel wrong. Both in the engine bay and behind the wheel.
That said I've never seen a Toyota without excessive rust. Here in the south we don't get cancerous car killing rust, but Toyotas always got surface rust and parts rusted together. Brakes, alternators, everything. Bolts rust and become a real pain in the ass to break lose. I fucking hate working on them.

I think I'm passing on the frontier, poor gas mileage and a new design coming is going to kill resale on a truck I know I'm not going to enjoy. Besides I'm rough on my vehicles, and I know the Nissans don't stand up to abuse well. If I'm going to hate it, might as well get the Tacoma right? LOL

This dealer has a couple 2017 Colorados. But fuck are they expensive. I owe about 7K on my car right now, trade in is something like 3 or 4k. Private party sell is 6500. I'm hoping to find something that's already a good deal, and just ask they pay off my car if I pay the asking price on the truck. Probably going to go down there tomorrow and see what they'll do. http://www.mybufordchevy.com/VehicleDetails/new-2017-Chevrolet-Colorado-2WD_WT-Buford-GA/3048429483

Chevy Colorado over a Toyota? Are you smoking that kush???

TXDirt wrote:

Chevy Colorado over a Toyota? Are you smoking that kush???

X2, get what ya pay for.

Consider a Mercedes Metris mid-size van. It's got paddle shifters so you can put it in manual mode pretend you are driving an F1 car. I've gotten as high as 27 mpg highway with mine.

I have a customer who bought a new Colorado that had a dealer installed lift and big tire package. She got all kinds of stupid when she saw it on the lot. Good looking little truck but damn she spent 45 grand on it.

Reese95w wrote:

Consider a Mercedes Metris mid-size van. It's got paddle shifters so you can put it in manual mode pretend you are driving an F1 car. I've gotten as high as 27 mpg highway with mine.

I looked at it but I want a real manual. Can't bump start those automated manuals, and I worry how long the clutch will live in one. And at the end of the day I like the control of a real manual. Slipping the clutch can be helpful to pull tiny engines out of the hole.

newmann wrote:

I have a customer who bought a new Colorado that had a dealer installed lift and big tire package. She got all kinds of stupid when she saw it on the lot. Good looking little truck but damn she spent 45 grand on it.

Yeah Chevy is banking on these things. The Tacoma was antiquated till 2016 revamp, the Frontier has been outdated, and the Ranger is gone. Strong market for midsized trucks, and little competition.
Did she have the zr2? Theyre pretty damn cool albeit very pricey.

Toyota is at the top as far as quality. Nothing comes close. If they only made a 3/4 ton I would be there. I have a 1999 F250 which has been really reliable. Super durable. My 2009 Chevy 2500 not so much. LS motors are good but the rest is weak. Did a brake job on both and the Ford was like working on a train. Parts are much bigger.

My new truck will be an old truck , I'm gonna find a southern Chevy in the 88-94 era and have it shipped up. They might be down on power compared to the newer vehicles but in my opinion, those were the best trucks ever made . Super simple with no electronic bullshit . The perfect mix of new/old technology.

Mr. G wrote:

Toyota is at the top as far as quality. Nothing comes close. If they only made a 3/4 ton I would be there. I have a 1999 F250 which has been really reliable. Super durable. My 2009 Chevy 2500 not so much. LS motors are good but the rest is weak. Did a brake job on both and the Ford was like working on a train. Parts are much bigger.

Mr. G and Mr, X, you both ae cracking me up with the old truck shit. When the water came up in our neighborhood, I left behind a new 17 model Audi Q7 and 17 TuRD Pro Tundra to flood and we all left in my 2001 F250 with nearly a quarter million miles on the clock. Love that truck.

For Moro stuff I'd definitely recommend a van, but I hear you on it being BS they don't offer a manual trans in any of them. I just bought a sprinter and that's really my only complaint, I need the manual trans to feel like I'm in control and the car isn't driving me. I still have my old Toyota pickup though, so I drive that around town for fun and get my manual fix in. 240k+ and still ticking along (yes, they all tick)

JM485 wrote:

For Moro stuff I'd definitely recommend a van, but I hear you on it being BS they don't offer a manual trans in any of them. I just bought a sprinter and that's really my only complaint, I need the manual trans to feel like I'm in control and the car isn't driving me. I still have my old Toyota pickup though, so I drive that around town for fun and get my manual fix in. 240k+ and still ticking along (yes, they all tick)

Totally, best thing about the van is you can lock everything inside safe from rain and sticky fingers. Besides people like to use other people's pickups as a trash can

I found a dealer in Florida selling the base model with an auto for 17k. Def going to use that as leverage for getting less. Gonna offer 20K out the door, willing to do 21K if they do a spray in liner.
Anyways fixing to leave, I'll update when I get home.

You would pay an extra thousand for a $375.00 spray in bed liner? How did you end up so far upside down in your car? Being that it is financed I am guessing that means you have full coverage insurance and gap coverage. Sure would be a shame if you totaled it out on the way to trade it in.

colintrax wrote:

I looked at it but I want a real manual. Can't bump start those automated manuals, and I worry how long the clutch will live in one. And at the end of the day I like the control of a real manual. Slipping the clutch can be helpful to pull tiny engines out of the hole.

Before I got the Metris all my previous "cars" had been small trucks with manual transmissions. If a manual had been available with the Metris I would have gotten that. But I'm use to the auto now and my old leg is enjoying not having to push in the clutch, especially in crappy Seattle stop and go highway traffic.

They appraised my car at 3k, 500 less than kbb. Then told me 30k out the door, with something like 9% interest lol needless to say I didn't buy a truck. I think it was in a fender bender anyways

Reese95w wrote:

Before I got the Metris all my previous "cars" had been small trucks with manual transmissions. If a manual had been available with the Metris I would have gotten that. But I'm use to the auto now and my old leg is enjoying not having to push in the clutch, especially in crappy Seattle stop and go highway traffic.

Lol I can understand that. The Colorado has a pretty heavy clutch and clunky transmission. Wasn't pleasant to shift. Atlanta traffic causes me to quit giving an f and I just dump the clutch.

I’m in CA but was in MA for 30 years, in the north east most toyotas were rust buckets.

Paid $1600 for this 99 F250. 170K miles and only repair was an air control valve. It's my back up truck and it's bare bones but keeps on going.

seth505 wrote:

I’m in CA but was in MA for 30 years, in the north east most toyotas were rust buckets.

not a toyota fan myself , to be fair , all brands are rust buckets in the north east.

Mr. G wrote:

Paid $1600 for this 99 F250. 170K miles and only repair was an air control valve. It's my back up truck and it's bare bones but keeps on going.

Lol I've got a 97 explorer outfitted for camping. But with big tires, dual batteries, winch, etc it only gets 18mpg or so. Besides it tends to be muddy and rides like shit. A nice driving to work car is good. Err truck

seth505 wrote:

I’m in CA but was in MA for 30 years, in the north east most toyotas were rust buckets.

MR. X wrote:

not a toyota fan myself , to be fair , all brands are rust buckets in the north east.

The new England area kills all vehicles, but there's a reason Toyota is only the top selling car in the southern states. The rust belt is dominated by Ford and Chevy and for a reason.

seth505 wrote:

I’m in CA but was in MA for 30 years, in the north east most toyotas were rust buckets.

MR. X wrote:

not a toyota fan myself , to be fair , all brands are rust buckets in the north east.

colintrax wrote:

The new England area kills all vehicles, but there's a reason Toyota is only the top selling car in the southern states. The rust belt is dominated by Ford and Chevy and for a reason.

My brother in law is still waiting to get his frame swapped out through the toyota recall deal

MR. X wrote:

My brother in law is still waiting to get his frame swapped out through the toyota recall deal

Damn, wasn't that years ago??

colintrax wrote:

Damn, wasn't that years ago??

I guess the problem is they don't have enough frames to go around.