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I can see if you are in a tough field or line of work where there is a lot of competition for a certain position but for all the people who say they just can't get a job of any kind, I don't believe it. I get offered jobs regularly but people are individuals. I have an idea for a show where I take over the identity of people who say they can not find a job. I use their qualifications and try to get as many jobs in a day as possible. I am not being a jerk, it is just I see all these people who say they want work until it comes down to it. Also there is the guy that wants work so someone takes a chance on him but only has 35 hours so the guy complains and complains that it is not enough and then he get's 41 hours and complains that he is being used and the employer doesn't understand that he has a life. Entitled generation.
The Shop
Two of the industries I cover can't find employees, because they can't find people that will pass the drug test and have the fitness to do the job: electric utility linemen and railroads.
Most kids these days are too soft to do these jobs, it seems.
Even the newspaper where I work can't find qualified people. If you can get them to show up to work like a normal person- they don't have the writing skills.
It's a head-scratcher for sure. It's tempting to think people are just too lazy to work, but there must be other reasons.
However, if I were to ever become unemployed, I certainly would be looking more intently than I am now. And I would be doing everything I can to figure out how to make my own way if it were to come to that. In fact, I'm currently toying around with an idea that I have to see if it is worth delving into making side money.
In general though, I agree. The habitual unemployed spend more time making excuses about why they can't get any job than they do looking for a job. I believe those are who this thread is directed at.
Ellen: "Well, he's been out of work for close to seven years."
Clark: "In seven years, he couldn't find a job?"
Ellen: "Catherine says, he's been holding out for a management position."
A quick google search found evidence to the contrary. I realize that you can find a study to support any point you want to make, but still...
A study of 250 U.S.-based militants since Sept 11 who have been indicted in jihadist terrorist crime. They are on average middle class, reasonably well-educated family men with kids.
Former CIA case officer Marc Sageman wrote a book examining the backgrounds of 170 militants who were part of al Qaeda. 50% were professionals; 66% were either middle or upper class and had gone to college; several were PhDs.
I'm not sure that the jihad can be blamed entirely on a poor job market.
Sorry, I don't like to contribute to the jacking of a thread, but couldn't help myself. Carry on.
Pit Row
I had a major issue finding a job when I was fully available because I wasn't willing to work two of them to get full time hours as the schedules clashing made me an undesireable candidate for either of them. Also, when I was nearing the amount of hours worked per week required for basic benefits, I would be cut back to avoid the employer having to provide me with them.
We are not ALL entitled, and in every generation there and degenerates that dog fuck their way through and think it's good enough. These are not people I associate myself with. And here is where I am going to lose my shit. The largest major purchase we will make in our lifetimes (if we can afford it) is a home. Second, a car. I will also explore tuition costs aswell because generally speaking in order to make these purchases you need a higher paying job, which usually requires some level of post-secondary education. The average cost of a house in 1970 was $23,000, a car around $4,000, and your tuition cost was (from an archive at the university of Pennsylvania) around $2500 a year. Minimum wage in the US at this time was $1.45.
Today's average cost of a house in the USA is $272,000, a car $32,000, and your tuition costs for the same university (University of Pennsylvania) sitting at a measly $47,668, while the minimum wage in America is only at $7.25. That is over a thousand percent increase in housing costs, a 700% increase in vehicle costs, a 1780% increase in tuition fees, and only a 480% increase in the minimum wage your employer has to pay you.
I ask how you dare call us entitled when we face this kind of disparity in wage and cost. I am gonna quote Fight Club on this one; "God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."
Same thing with the whole "corporations should pay taxes" bullshit. They're just going to charge you more to cover the cost of taxes, so in the end, guess who is paying the taxes. You are. So saying "corporations should pay taxes" is the equivalent of saying "I would like to pay more taxes."
Corporations should pay more taxes, and there should be protections in place for consumers so that they cannot be exploited for basic needs. End of discussion.
I think there is also a problem with greed. I recently worked for Raytheon. There was a huge gap in the workforce there. We had people fresh out of college and we had people that should have retired 10 years ago, and we had almost nothing in-between. The older group had pensions and 401k and were waiting on that extra .125% raise on their pension before they would retire. They were lazy and were pushed through the system to upper management because that's the way the Raytheon corporate structure works (age + experience = promotion). The young people had no incentive to stay at Raytheon. They had no pension and they could take their 401k with them when they left. The best way to get a raise was to get a new job with a new employer. The middle-aged workforce was constantly pushed around waiting on Joe to decide if he could live off of $2 million or not in retirement money.
Of course it does not work like this everywhere, or with everyone, but it's really common in government defense jobs. I lasted 8 years at Raytheon.
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