Isolated drum tracks (Bonham and Peart)

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These things are amazing. If you're into drumming, you can really hear what's going on. Here are two really sick ones: It makes replicating these songs a lot more daunting. You cannot replicate John Bonham, period. And the sound of Neil Peart's kit in 1978 is ridiculous. I dig these things.


https://youtu.be/lWnhz1ZcF74


https://youtu.be/8U_wn_8h2M4
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So awesome. I like how AVH has a fire extinguisher on his kit! Laughing
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I watch drummer play through videos on youtube constantly haha. Sweet

dp- I think just a sample so when a trigger on the bass drum picks up his hit it makes a certain sound.
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I don't know if Alex was using pure samples yet (the next album, 5150- he was all Simmons pads). But when you're talking the bass drum sound on 1984, it's going to be a highly processed Ludwig Acoustic bass drum I think. The bass drums and snare sound on 1984 are epic. In general he had the classic rock thuddy, dry bass drum sound with lots of attack.
Bonham was the opposite- with a big open tuning and a boomy sound (When the Levee Breaks).
Is this the greatest rock drum intro of the 20th Century? And to think Bonham had just set up in the hallway to practice when Jimmy Page heard the sound and rushed a mic down there.

https://youtu.be/uwiTs60VoTM

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NorCal 50+ wrote:
I don't know if Alex was using pure samples yet (the next album, 5150- he was all Simmons pads). But when you're talking the bass drum...
I don't know if Alex was using pure samples yet (the next album, 5150- he was all Simmons pads). But when you're talking the bass drum sound on 1984, it's going to be a highly processed Ludwig Acoustic bass drum I think. The bass drums and snare sound on 1984 are epic. In general he had the classic rock thuddy, dry bass drum sound with lots of attack.
Bonham was the opposite- with a big open tuning and a boomy sound (When the Levee Breaks).
Is this the greatest rock drum intro of the 20th Century? And to think Bonham had just set up in the hallway to practice when Jimmy Page heard the sound and rushed a mic down there.

https://youtu.be/uwiTs60VoTM

Gated drums at the beginning, for sure. The attack is almost instant and they sound very artificial. Ted must have cranked up the threshold so only a little came through.
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Norcal, check out this one from the Smashing Pumpkins. Jimmy Chamberlin is one of my faves. I love how he's always footing that hi-hat:

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NorCal 50+ wrote:
I don't know if Alex was using pure samples yet (the next album, 5150- he was all Simmons pads). But when you're talking the bass drum...
I don't know if Alex was using pure samples yet (the next album, 5150- he was all Simmons pads). But when you're talking the bass drum sound on 1984, it's going to be a highly processed Ludwig Acoustic bass drum I think. The bass drums and snare sound on 1984 are epic. In general he had the classic rock thuddy, dry bass drum sound with lots of attack.
Bonham was the opposite- with a big open tuning and a boomy sound (When the Levee Breaks).
Is this the greatest rock drum intro of the 20th Century? And to think Bonham had just set up in the hallway to practice when Jimmy Page heard the sound and rushed a mic down there.

https://youtu.be/uwiTs60VoTM

Frickin' love that tune. But then again I grew up on Zep and its a THC fogged haze peering down into my mid 70s brain memories. Whistling

The Rover always takes me back to memories of the 8-track deck playing and some 6x9s on the rear deck pushing out this kinda gold.

https://youtu.be/ipGf5wWLf9Y
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when I was in high school I would have killed for a peart isolated drum track....ya know there is a peart drum video showing him play the old rush songs nowadays ...camera showing his feet and everything.
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There is digital processing of an acoustic bass drum sound, which is different than a full blown digital sample. You can hear the difference in Alex's sound on 1984 (acoustic bass drum) to the next album, 5150, which was pure Simmons sample on all the drums (I always thought he stepped back in sound on 5150- they sound artificial).
I think the intro to Hot For Teacher is played with hands on electronic pads (you can actually hear the sticks click right at the very beginning)- then overdubbed acoustic drums, then into the sickest double bass drum rock into of all time, which is just Alex on the kit). Woohoo It's even harder to play than it sounds, because its kind of a shuffle and not a straight hammering 16 note bass drum pattern like a lot of metal drummers play.
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Falcon wrote:
Norcal, check out this one from the Smashing Pumpkins. Jimmy Chamberlin is one of my faves. I love how he's always footing that hi-hat: [embed] https://youtu.be/Xj8vuVyvpGs...
Norcal, check out this one from the Smashing Pumpkins. Jimmy Chamberlin is one of my faves. I love how he's always footing that hi-hat:

Nice- I'm checking it out on headphones right now. Chamberlin is so solid. I saw him in DC with Garbage and they did a dual drum solo thing that was really sweet. A couple nights later was when the keyboard player OD'd in his company and Jimmy was out of the band until many years later. His snare sound played such a huge part of the sound of this album also- this dude is amazing. Bullet with Butterfly Wings is probably my favorite Chamberlin track- definitely an innovator.
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For sure. I love how his fills are never 16th notes from left to right, followed by a crash cymbal. More like dotted 8ths and 16ths between the kick and snare/floor tom, while the hi-hat just keeps pumping out the rhythm. Super independent.

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