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Only $10 for all 2024 SX, MX, and SMX series (regularly $30).
My only utility expenses are propane for hot water and cooking, phone, and internet which all together total a $100 bucks a month.
Initial cost were expensive at the time of install roughly 15K but that was 11 years ago. The system paid for it's self in about 5 years of no monthly bills so it's been free power since.Well was another 5K to have drilled and cased.
So for 20K i purchased electric and water for the rest of my life.
The Shop
I’ve installed two new 5 ton heat pumps in my house and garage with new ductwork, a dehumidifier in the house, stripped and reinsulated the attic, new windows and doors, installed gas range, gas on demand water heater in the house, gas dryer, new pool equipment and got rid of the motorhome that was always plugged in with an a/c going. Also replaced most lights with leds. Electric bill still cracks over $400.00 in the summers.
Since my house is baseboard heat, there was no ductwork. We had central air with heat pump installed some years ago, and they ran the ductwork in the attic (my house is 2000 sq ft ranch). I think they undersized my AC unit and air handler. The heat pump is totally useless if it's below mid 40's outside, as then the auxiliary heat strips kick on. And then, those don't help until it kicks into "Stage 3 Auxiliary". Needless to say, I never use the heat pump and just stick to the baseboards.
Sorry to hijack your post, but heat pumps and electric bills really get me going...
Georgie Id go outside and grab that big refrigerant line, the one with the black insulation on it where it goes into the unit. The insulation will just slide back. Anything above 25 degrees that line should be hot when running. It isn't, get a guy out there to look at it.
We pay $.03/kwh here, so you'd have still paid over $150 with the basic service fee tacked on. That's about 50% higher than my highest bill over the last 12 months, and I keep the thermostat set between 68/71 all 4 seasons.
Our damned "socialist" PUD sucks...….
not understanding your socialist PUD sucks statement? pud?
@motogrady : the line isn't piping hot. But it is warm for sure. It is 28 degrees out currently.
I'm no mathematician, but $480 for 5100 kwhs doesn't quite work out to $.0521. It's over $.09.
Odd thing is, my bill has $237 of charges from Ohio Edison, and $314 of charges from First Energy Solutions. First Energy charges 4.92 cents, so that with 5.23 Ohio Edison charges, plus the additions, charges but less some weird credits (that I don't know what they are), gets me to the 9 cents, + or -. Our electric bills in Ohio are confusing
Your 6400kwh would be a total of $162.12 here, plus maybe a few extra dollars for some kind of tax. That's effectively about $.025/kWh.
The only way to check that is with the tools mentioned above. Some say even that only gets u close on proper refrigerant charge.
If you look on the label on the heat pump it will tell u total system charge somewhere. Some say the only way to really be sure is to suck the refrigerant out, weighing it as u do to see where u were. Then weighing the correct charge the factory wants back in.
If it's pretty warm at 28, and almost hard to keep a hand on at 32, and feels like it's gonna burn u a 40,
that thing is working.
Pit Row
My gas bill this feb was $200 in a 1600 sq ft condo. Furnace runs way too often
My all in rate is about $0.18/kwh. That is total bill $ divided by kwh used. Yes there is fixed $$ in there from the base rate, but it's easier just to do that & gives bottom number.
Just got my bill a couple days ago. Billing cycle is 2 months, bill was $265+/-. We usually average in the 20kwh/day area. That's with the wood fire doing the heating.
Most duct systems in a structure handle both heat and AC air. They use the blower from the furnace to
move the air thru the thing that gets cold in cooling.
It usually sits right on top of the furnace itself.
You try to find a happy medium by locating the returns, where the air sucks back in, opposite from the supply. Supply in ceiling, try to get return low by the floor. Supply in floor, pull your return high on the walls or ceiling.
That being said, many a time it's just easier and cheaper to just put all the ductwork in the ceiling or the floor. It will still work. Most of the time. Everything in the ceiling is great for AC. Everything in the floor is great for heating.
The windstorm took out my electricity Sunday morning until late Monday before it was back on. Saved some electricity there! House was down to 48 degrees inside though.
P.S. My monthly electric bill on budget is $460 per month.
Dude get a generac generator. that’s one thing I can’t bitch about......yet Another reason to plum gas in. No more refilling tanks yearly.
It’s a hassle to get natural gas where I’m at. The county was giving my neighbors shit. But they told me how to pester them and then finally they’ll give in. They just got it last year.
All 3 of our local "county-based" PUDs (Douglas, Chelan, and Grant) are ridiculously cheap. Unfortunately that led to a lot of folks running to the area to build all the bitcoin mining sites for a while, but thankfully that seems to have subsided. It is a big draw for server farms for the big data companies, though. The refrigeration for those facilities sucks up a LOT of energy.......
Apparently your place is around the same size. 48,000 BTU isn't enough to heat a house that size. So the electric elements kick on at 5 or 6KW each...no wonder you're getting killed on electricity. A few years ago I got a Goodman 16 SEER 5 ton A/C, with a 115,000 BTU 96/97% furnace...cost $3300 to buy and $1800 to get installed. My gas bill last month was $73, and my electric bill was $165. I could probably cut both by 30% if I fixed the drafts. FYI I'm paying $.0439 per KWH (Santanna Energy SVC) for electric, and $3.19/MCF from Santanna. FYI I do have a programmable thermostat (not NEST, not network aware...just 7 day programmable), and I set it for 70 when I'm home, 60 when I'm in bed or not home.
If you do get a new system, stay away from RAM heating and cooling...they're hacks, and I spent the better part of a month correcting their installation
I just happened to have to be in South Carolina for work. The missus can't operate it though so they bugged out until it came back on.
I also have two 80% efficient fireplace inserts but the Fam and the dog left it up to Ohio Edison to get power back and went to friends who had power.
My place is 3600 sq. ft. not counting a full basement so heating and cooling is a bitch. I also power/heat a 28 x 32 shop I am in every night and have a 50 x50 barn.
When kid #2 graduates next year, I am on a downsizing path!
Bosch system
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