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I am sure that most readers of this forum are aware of the fight between republicans and democrats regarding unemployment benifits extensions.
I am just wondering how long you people think the benifits should last?
Should they go on forever?
I am just wondering how long you people think the benifits should last?
Should they go on forever?
The deficit has to be attacked from both ends.
The Bush Tax cuts helped the rich and Id imagine that much of that money wasnt spent but banked. Give out money to those out of work and that money goes right back into the local economy as rent and food.
Perhaps in time our population will get smaller. And we wont have more people living here than we have jobs for. But I aint holding my breath.
How long should we keep them on Unemployment? Id guess about a year and then Id put them on welfare. What the govenment seems to be doing now is extend benefits in the "hopes" that somehow magically the economy will turn around and everyone will be re employed and life will be wonderful once again and we will all live happily ever after.
As I understand it only some states have 99 weeks of unemployment. And many of those are now falling off the end. I wonder what those people are doing? Living off relatives, neighbors, friends or did they go to some other sort of program?
About 5 years ago I was unemployed for a brief period, but found that even before I was eligible to receive the unemployment benefits I was already able to earn more than the amount my benefit would have been, which of course disqualifies you from unemployment benefits. I did so from taking odd jobs, temp labor, etc., and continued to work in such a fashion for the 5-6 months it took to find investors, secure a location, and remodel it to open a new business.
To me the idea of sitting around and taking unemployment for 2 years or more while waiting for a $100,000 job to fall in your lap (even $50,000) is anathema.
The Shop
Also, 'Emergency Spending' is exempt from PAYGO, so there will always be a way around it.
The unemployment rate of 10% pretty much constitutes an emergency, well, at least to the Democrats.
Getting off your ass won't help if there is nowhere to go.
I saw something on it on the world news lastnight. I agree we should cut the budget somewhere before we extend benefits with borrowed money. They had a girl from Nashville who said she was unemployed for 2 or 3 years!! How is that? I have a lot of bank contacts from Nashville and they all say they have positions open for tellers and CSR's. I don't understand I guess or I must be out of touch with reality.....
We should cut the budget by doing away with about 80% of the crap we fund!
Pit Row
AOL news(July 21) -- Though the outcome is all but certain, the fight over the unemployment benefits extension isn't over just yet.
On Tuesday, Senate Democrats, with the support of both Republican senators from Maine and freshly sworn-in West Virginia Senator Carte Goodwin, broke a longstanding Republican filibuster against the emergency jobless relief bill with a 60-40 vote to invoke cloture. But in Wednesday's session, Republican Senators introduced several motions -- including several calling for offsetting cuts to cancel out the cost of the unemployment benefits, which will have a $33 billion deficit impact -- and another to repeal the estate tax that pushed the vote back to late this afternoon or evening.
Speaking from the Senate, California Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer criticized the bill's Republican opponents for continuing to hold unemployed Americans "hostage."
Oklahoma Republican Senator Tom Coburn, voicing the Republican sentiment, said the GOP opposition is not a "delaying tactic," but rather a "philosophical discussion" over how to remedy the struggling economy.
While the bill has languished, 2.5 million unemployed workers have gone without aid, which under the new bill will be restored retroactively to June 2, when the previous federal benefits package expired. The bill would extend benefits for those who qualify through the end of November but does not include aid for the "99ers," Americans who have already been out of work for over 99 weeks and have since had their federal aid discontinued.
I like the idea though.
We need to motivate people not give them a cushion. I have a good friend that was laid off for 6 months. He didn't go job searching at all during that time. What did he do? He posted doing lawn care (cash only) cheap on craigslist!!!
His company called him back and after a month he had a job somewhere else....
I say dollar for dollar after admin costs are taken out on the unemployment benefit payout!
Having been on unemployment I can say it is helpful. Did it stop me from looking for a job? No. Hell I am even moving for a job. It's based on the individual. I try to take a job for less then I was making to save from moving. But it is pretty discouraging from the job market when you hear - You are way overqualified. Many employers dont even try to give you the benefit of the doubt and hire you for less. The one job I was going to take was a Janitor. Nothing special, I can push a broom. But the hoops and BS I had to go through to get that job was a little sad. A barrage of tests - I passed them all. Drug tests, safety tests all to hear. "I have to go on a mandatory vacation, I will call you in three weeks."
I said fuck it, I am packing my house to move 300 miles south to take a job that pays me what I am worth and one I will much more enjoy. I was on unemployment for two weeks. 1 Check, and after I am done dealing with catching up on bills, late fees having to move - I will be out of pocket around $2500 as of today. I have many more things to still catch up on in paying. It sucks. So my $400 weekly unemployment check? I stocked up on cans of tuna.
It isnt as beautiful as it may seem. PLUS I wont get to argue with you guys all day. I know OldFart is going to be sad from that. I can hear him sniffling.
If anyone in OC needs a room mate for a month or two, I am on craigslist looking. - WHICH means I will be away from my family until I can move them south.
Being unemployed is a freaking joy. Let me tell you.
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