Hey computer guys?

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9/22/2009 11:44am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2012 7:57pm
How do I access deleted emails?

Can I?
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9/22/2009 11:50am
kaw rider9 wrote:
How do I access deleted emails?

Can I?
Web mail like Yahoo or local mail like Outlook?
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In Outlook you can make sure deleted items is selected then go to tools and recover deleted items. This is Outlook not to be confused with Outlook express I think you need to download a separate program, some free ones will let you see the emails. Not sure about hotmail or yahoo and stuff.

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9/22/2009 12:47pm
My E-mail is through Comcast..
9/22/2009 12:51pm
kaw rider9 wrote:
My E-mail is through Comcast..
So do you check it thru a web based means like going thru their website or do you have it setup thru Outlook?
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9/22/2009 12:54pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:18am
kaw rider9 wrote:
My E-mail is through Comcast..
So do you check it thru a web based means like going thru their website or do you have it setup thru Outlook?
My home page is comcast.com. There's a link on the side for e-mail.. I click on that and it goes to my e-mail.


My email is ozone9@comcast.net


Does that help?


I need to see some emails that have been deleted from about a month ago..
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Once you delete emails on web-based servers they are removed from the web-server and can not be retrieved.

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DSteg222 wrote:
Once you delete emails on web-based servers they are removed from the web-server and can not be retrieved.

Not necessarily. In some web based email apps when you delete your messages they aren't really deleted (google mail) and you have to perform an extra step to really delete them. Also, it's possible they could have backups of mail but unless he had a court order I doubt he could get them to pull from backup (at least not without paying them for the trouble). Having said that I would go on to say that he likely has little hope of getting them back unless it was a national security incident and even then it might not happen. Smile

He certainly could call Comcast support and get the official answer from them.
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9/22/2009 2:31pm
and social security number, just to be safe.
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huck wrote:
and social security number, just to be safe.
And credit card numbers. And of course huck will need some boobie pics....
9/22/2009 2:40pm
kaw rider9 wrote:
My E-mail is through Comcast..
So do you check it thru a web based means like going thru their website or do you have it setup thru Outlook?
kaw rider9 wrote:
My home page is comcast.com. There's a link on the side for e-mail.. I click on that and it goes to my e-mail. My email is...
My home page is comcast.com. There's a link on the side for e-mail.. I click on that and it goes to my e-mail.


My email is ozone9@comcast.net


Does that help?


I need to see some emails that have been deleted from about a month ago..
I use yahoo and they dump the delete folder whether I like it or not. For yahoo I am pretty sure they can't or won't even respond to me if I ever tried to get any deleted emails back.

Since you have a provider you should email them about it and I bet you'll get an answer. I am guessing they dump the delete folder automatically also. If you want to get around that set up your email thru Outlook.
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9/22/2009 2:44pm
DSteg222 wrote:
Once you delete emails on web-based servers they are removed from the web-server and can not be retrieved.

Void Main wrote:
Not necessarily. In some web based email apps when you delete your messages they aren't really deleted (google mail) and you have to perform an extra...
Not necessarily. In some web based email apps when you delete your messages they aren't really deleted (google mail) and you have to perform an extra step to really delete them. Also, it's possible they could have backups of mail but unless he had a court order I doubt he could get them to pull from backup (at least not without paying them for the trouble). Having said that I would go on to say that he likely has little hope of getting them back unless it was a national security incident and even then it might not happen. Smile

He certainly could call Comcast support and get the official answer from them.
Well.... I figured the emails werent sitting in the DELETED EAMIL folder... DUH!!!! Fucker should be using a computer if he doesnt know that he can gets his emails back from there!

So... like I said... once you delete emails on web-based servers they can not "for all but an extremely rare case like the NSA is involved" be retrieved. Smile

Oh... and btw your emails still could still be retrieved if they deleted the file from the server, because until the actual area that the file was sitting at on the HD was overwritten, you can still do low level data retrieval and access the information.

Oh, yeah... that means... once HE deleted emails on the web server they can not be retrieved. Comcast is not going to have a web server out of commission so that some schmuck can retrieve an email from a month ago unless there was a court order that he was sending kiddy porn or had terrorist ties with emails to other non infidels!

For Christ's sake, does everyone on here have to show the rarest of cases to prove someone wrong? Woohoo

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9/22/2009 2:54pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2009 2:58pm
DSteg222 wrote:
Once you delete emails on web-based servers they are removed from the web-server and can not be retrieved.

Void Main wrote:
Not necessarily. In some web based email apps when you delete your messages they aren't really deleted (google mail) and you have to perform an extra...
Not necessarily. In some web based email apps when you delete your messages they aren't really deleted (google mail) and you have to perform an extra step to really delete them. Also, it's possible they could have backups of mail but unless he had a court order I doubt he could get them to pull from backup (at least not without paying them for the trouble). Having said that I would go on to say that he likely has little hope of getting them back unless it was a national security incident and even then it might not happen. Smile

He certainly could call Comcast support and get the official answer from them.
DSteg222 wrote:
Well.... I figured the emails werent sitting in the DELETED EAMIL folder... DUH!!!! Fucker should be using a computer if he doesnt know that he can...
Well.... I figured the emails werent sitting in the DELETED EAMIL folder... DUH!!!! Fucker should be using a computer if he doesnt know that he can gets his emails back from there!

So... like I said... once you delete emails on web-based servers they can not "for all but an extremely rare case like the NSA is involved" be retrieved. Smile

Oh... and btw your emails still could still be retrieved if they deleted the file from the server, because until the actual area that the file was sitting at on the HD was overwritten, you can still do low level data retrieval and access the information.

Oh, yeah... that means... once HE deleted emails on the web server they can not be retrieved. Comcast is not going to have a web server out of commission so that some schmuck can retrieve an email from a month ago unless there was a court order that he was sending kiddy porn or had terrorist ties with emails to other non infidels!

For Christ's sake, does everyone on here have to show the rarest of cases to prove someone wrong? Woohoo

They wouldn't have to take the web server out of comission. All of this stuff is stored in a database and "possibly" backed up. It's entirely possible that they could have a restore mechanism that could restore directly back into his email account. There is really only one way to know for sure and that is for him to call Comcast. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Google Mail has this capability for business customers as they now provide those types of services. Regarding the deleted email folder, you do know who asked the question right? Smile

P.S. If you deleted your email from my webmail servers I could restore it for you.
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9/22/2009 3:04pm
A simple no would have worked!Smile

Thanks guys.
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On .mac, my deleted messages are stored on the server, and I can set up when the server dumps them in "preferences".

I have mine set to "never".

It's amazing how often you need to dig up old shit, and rub some ones nose in it.Evil
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9/22/2009 3:32pm
Void Main wrote:
They wouldn't have to take the web server out of comission. All of this stuff is stored in a database and "possibly" backed up. It's entirely...
They wouldn't have to take the web server out of comission. All of this stuff is stored in a database and "possibly" backed up. It's entirely possible that they could have a restore mechanism that could restore directly back into his email account. There is really only one way to know for sure and that is for him to call Comcast. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Google Mail has this capability for business customers as they now provide those types of services. Regarding the deleted email folder, you do know who asked the question right? Smile

P.S. If you deleted your email from my webmail servers I could restore it for you.
Do we really have to get this technical?? I know. I own a company with a farm of servers in a Data Center in San Diego. Most backups are not kept for more than a month, ours are only kept for a max of one week. We write backups ever hour, over writting the previous day except for two of the daily overwrites, which get saved for a week and then everwritten. I know this stuff is in a DB, either SQL or Oracle most likely. I also know that the "deleted" line of data in a db is not really deleted either, but just marked for deletion and that there are ways of accessing data that is marked for deletion up until data "compression."

Didnt realize we wanted to get this deep about a question from a non-techno as to the possibility of getting a month old deleted email.

But, I do stand corrected... Yes, it is possible to still retrieve the emails you deleted a month ago. Whewwww.... I feel better now! Wink
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9/22/2009 4:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2009 4:44pm
Void Main wrote:
They wouldn't have to take the web server out of comission. All of this stuff is stored in a database and "possibly" backed up. It's entirely...
They wouldn't have to take the web server out of comission. All of this stuff is stored in a database and "possibly" backed up. It's entirely possible that they could have a restore mechanism that could restore directly back into his email account. There is really only one way to know for sure and that is for him to call Comcast. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Google Mail has this capability for business customers as they now provide those types of services. Regarding the deleted email folder, you do know who asked the question right? Smile

P.S. If you deleted your email from my webmail servers I could restore it for you.
DSteg222 wrote:
Do we really have to get this technical?? I know. I own a company with a farm of servers in a Data Center in San Diego...
Do we really have to get this technical?? I know. I own a company with a farm of servers in a Data Center in San Diego. Most backups are not kept for more than a month, ours are only kept for a max of one week. We write backups ever hour, over writting the previous day except for two of the daily overwrites, which get saved for a week and then everwritten. I know this stuff is in a DB, either SQL or Oracle most likely. I also know that the "deleted" line of data in a db is not really deleted either, but just marked for deletion and that there are ways of accessing data that is marked for deletion up until data "compression."

Didnt realize we wanted to get this deep about a question from a non-techno as to the possibility of getting a month old deleted email.

But, I do stand corrected... Yes, it is possible to still retrieve the emails you deleted a month ago. Whewwww.... I feel better now! Wink
The fact is, and correct me if I am wrong, but neither you nor I have any idea at all what Comcast's mail setup is. I didn't get technical but if you like I could. Even if you owned a farm of 20,000 servers it wouldn't give you a shred of knowledge on Comcast's mail setup. You would be doing a disservice by giving KR9 some potentially inaccurate information.

We keep mail for 1 year for 75,000 users (robotic tape libraries) but that certainly doesn't mean Comcast does. Sure it's not likely that a generic ISP will restore his mail for him but he can't possibly know that until he calls them and asks. That would have been much easier than typing the question in here and getting a bunch of information from people who actually have absolutely no clue as to what Comcast's email capabilities are. Sure the answer is "probably" no, they won't do it (at least for free) but he can't know that until he talks to them.

I just checked Google mail faq and if you pay them you can get archival for up to 10 years so they have the capability but probably do not archive anything (or minimal) on the free accounts. That's me speculating and it also says nothing as to what Comcast's setup might be. He actually is a paying customer of Comcast so you never know.
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9/22/2009 5:08pm
You guys know waaaay more shit about this than I do. That's why I asked!!

MotoDrive is waaaay better than goggle!!! True story...

Looking back, I should have called comcast, but it really is not that big of a deal.... I said I hit "CC" for someone and they said I didn't...... I know for fact I did.. I just wanted to prove it..

Thanks for everything...
9/22/2009 5:11pm
I have almost every email from my yahoo account since 2001 and let me tell you it has saved my ass many times. Tax shit mostly.
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9/22/2009 6:17pm
Jeeezzzz Us!! Do you take anal meds?

"The fact is, and correct me if I am wrong, but neither you nor I have any idea at all what Comcast's mail setup is"

What about "I do stand corrected" DONT YOU FUCKING GET???

Here, so you can feel the joy of being correct. You are Right. You are the master of all things computerized. You are worthy of incredible praise for things that are uttered from your cake hole. The correctness of all things said is beyond belief and is almost non-human. What you wrote is more correct than almost anything I have ever read in my life! It is utterly amazing!

You actually looked up on google faq about their archives to show someone they are "possibly" wrong on a forum post? Damn...Get a life!

kaw rider 9 - my deepest sympathies for misleading you into the world of non email retrieval! May the email gods bless you and all that are within your house and may you find those emails that you now seek!

Ok, now to more important (and fun) things like the yankee/halo game tonight

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