Hawaii cutting services and pay

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 12:36am
gov.lingle is making hard choices and cutting services ,pay and benefits..


different type of contrast compared to others who think they need to spend to get this economy going
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Oldmotoguy
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bank of hawaii earned a profit last year..thats because they didn't get involved with the sub prime bullshit..minority crap doesn't go very far over here..
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maybe the feds will learn how to cut back..why is Obama just spending ?the stimulus package is full of PORK
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I had four state jobs canceled last week, due to lack of funds.

The Fed jobs seem to keep coming, though...
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
bank of hawaii earned a profit last year..thats because they didn't get involved with the sub prime bullshit..minority crap doesn't go very far over here..
minority crap doesn't go very far over here..

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??

and all the stimulus shit is is pork, spending money on projects to get people earning money and putting money into the economy.

Build bridges, roads, buildings, etc....all considered "pork" by some standards
How do you propose getting money into the economy?
Drop a few billion from helicopters?

Work projects have always been considered "pork," but this is an instance where it goes to serve an economic purpose.

and the pork comes from all sides, not just one side

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1/27/2009 9:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:11pm
Oldmotoguy wrote:
bank of hawaii earned a profit last year..thats because they didn't get involved with the sub prime bullshit..minority crap doesn't go very far over here..
flarider wrote:
[i]minority crap doesn't go very far over here..[/i] WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? and all the stimulus shit is is pork, spending money on projects to get...
minority crap doesn't go very far over here..

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??

and all the stimulus shit is is pork, spending money on projects to get people earning money and putting money into the economy.

Build bridges, roads, buildings, etc....all considered "pork" by some standards
How do you propose getting money into the economy?
Drop a few billion from helicopters?

Work projects have always been considered "pork," but this is an instance where it goes to serve an economic purpose.

and the pork comes from all sides, not just one side
how much of the stimulus package is a work project?..i heard 40 or 50 billion.out of 800 billion

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1/27/2009 10:22am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:11pm
Obviously subject to change before final approvals





Construction Stimulus Breakdown

Posted Mon Jan 19, 09:12 am ET

Posted By: John Simon


It is estimated that the U.S. House of Representatives' construction-related stimulus proposal, released on 15 January 2009, might exceed $160 billion. The following is an outline of the proposal:


Transportation:

Dept. of Transportation (DOT) federal-aid highways = $30 billion; DOT airport improvement grants = $3 billion; DOT passenger rail = $1.1 billion; DOT transit capital assistance to buy buses, railcars & make facility improvements = $6 billion; DOT transit fixed-guide-way infrastructure = $2 billion; DOT transit capital investment grants for light rail, heavy rail, commuter rail, HOV projects = $1 billion; Army Corps of Engineers (civil works) = $4.5 billion; U.S. Forest Service capital improvement & maintenance = $0.65 billion.


Defense-related:

Facilities improvements = $4.5 billion; hospitals and ambulatory surgical centers = $3.75 billion; Troop housing and child care centers = $1.55 billion; Reserves and National Guard = $0.40 billion; base realignment and closure environmental cleanup = $0.30 billion; VA medical facilities & maintenance projects = $0.95 billion.


Housing/HUD:

Public housing capital fund, repair and construction of public housing units = $5 billion; elderly, disabled, Section 8 housing, energy retrofits = $2.5 billion; native American housing block grants, repairs, rehabilitation = $0.50 billion; community development block grants, for housing, services, infrastructure = $1 billion; neighborhood stabilization fund = $4.19 billion; lead-based paint hazards, remediation, rehabilitation = $0.10 billion.


Schools:

Modernization, renovation, repair = $20 billion; "Impact Aid" school construction = $100 million.


Energy:

Grid investment = $11.0 billion; Western Area Power Administration (WAPA) = $3.25 billion; Bonneville Power Administration (BPA) = $3.25 billion; renewable energy and transmission loan guarantees = $8 billion; energy efficient and renewable energy grants and loans = $8.4 billion; home weatherization assistance = $6.2 billion; carbon capture and sequestration demonstration projects = $2.4 billion.


Health & Human Services:

Community health centers ( new or expanded sites) = $0.50 billion; community health centers modernization = $1 billion; Public Health Service HQ building replacement, $0.88 billion; Centers for Disease Control modernization = $0.46 billion; National Institutes of Health (NIH) university research facilities renovation & construction = $1.5 billion; NIH campus modernization= $0.50 billion; Homeland Security border patrol facilities, maintenance and repairs + modernization = $0.15 billion; Agriculture Dept. facilities = $0.25 billion; Agriculture Dept. rural facilities = $0.20 billion; Commerce Dept. aid for research science buildings = $0.30 billion; NASA facilities hurricane damage repairs = $0.50 billion; National Science Foundation (NSF) facilities repair grants = $0.20 billion; NSF major research facilities and equipment = $0.40 billion.


Water/Environment:

EPA Superfund = $0.80 billion; EPA leaking underground storage tank cleanup & enforcement = $200 million; EPA clean water = $6 billion; EPA drinking water = $2 billion; EPA brown-fields assessments & cleanup = $0.10 billion; Corps of Engineers = $4.5 billion; Bureau of Reclamation drinking water projects = $0.50 billion; International Boundary and Water Commission (U.S. Mexico) water projects = $0.22 billion.


Other:

General Service Administration (GSA) federal buildings = $7.7 billion; Fish and Wildlife Service for maintenance and construction = $0.30 billion; National Park Service infrastructure maintenance = $1.7 billion; National Mall (Wash, DC) revitalization = $0.20; U.S. Geological Survey, facilities and equipment repair + restoration = $0.20 billion; Bureau of Indian Affairs, infrastructure = $0.50 billion; Indian Health Service facilities = $550 billion; Smithsonian Institution facilities maintenance = $150 million.




Now, some might consider, and understandably so, all of that to be "pork," and by definition, it probably is, but it gets money into the system and into the economy.
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1/27/2009 10:49am
so 160 billion out of 800 billion..

thanx for the info.

it just blows my mind how much they keep spending..theres just no end..lets hope Obama gets out the line item veto
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1/27/2009 4:37pm
US state and local utilities are in the can for over a $trillion BEFORE all this stuff hit the fan. Uping the credit card limit wont fix anything.
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
bank of hawaii earned a profit last year..thats because they didn't get involved with the sub prime bullshit..minority crap doesn't go very far over here..
flarider wrote:
[i]minority crap doesn't go very far over here..[/i] WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? and all the stimulus shit is is pork, spending money on projects to get...
minority crap doesn't go very far over here..

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??

and all the stimulus shit is is pork, spending money on projects to get people earning money and putting money into the economy.

Build bridges, roads, buildings, etc....all considered "pork" by some standards
How do you propose getting money into the economy?
Drop a few billion from helicopters?

Work projects have always been considered "pork," but this is an instance where it goes to serve an economic purpose.

and the pork comes from all sides, not just one side
Now, davy. Remember your bad heart..

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