Government Overreach

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 9:06am
In Chicago no less.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/11/chicago-school-bans-bag-lunches-to-ge…

A push for healthier school lunches has led one Chicago school to ban students from bringing lunches from home altogether.

Students at Chicago's Little Village Academy are required to eat the lunch provided to them by the school -- a policy that has cooked up controversy among parents and educators amid a national debate about the best way to promote healthy eating for children.

"Some of the kids don't like the food they give at our school for lunch or breakfast," Erica Martinez, a parent at the school, told the Chicago Tribune, which first reported the story. "So it would be a good idea if they could bring their lunch so they could at least eat something."

Little Village Academy principal Elsa Carmona said she banned bagged lunches six years ago because students were bringing junk food to school. She said the meals at school, which are provided by food contractor Chartwells-Thompson, are usually healthier.

"Nutrition-wise, it is better for the children to eat at the school," she told the Tribune. "It's about the nutrition and the excellent-quality food that they are able to serve [in the lunchroom]. It's milk versus a Coke. But with allergies and any medical issue, of course, we would make an exception."

Carmona did not immediately respond to a request for comment today from AOL News.

But Susan Rubin, a nutritionist and founder of the Better School Food program, said lunches offered by large food providers like Chartwells Thompson are not necessarily more nutritious.

She didn't mince words about cafeteria food in most schools.

"It's rare that I see a school, especially a public school, that actually serves food that's good," she told AOL News in a phone interview today. "I get physically sick just looking at it, because it makes me sick that kids are eating this processed crap."

Chartwells-Thompson did not immediately return a request for comment today.

The campaign to make school lunches healthier has become a hot topic in recent years and is one of first lady Michelle Obama's signature issues. In December, President Barack Obama signed the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act into law, tying increased funding for school lunches to stricter health guidelines for the meals.

But some healthy-food advocates say taking decision-making power away from parents is not the best way to implement change.

Amie Hamlin, the executive director of the New York Coalition for Healthy School Food, said she supported the spirit of Little Village Academy's lunch policy, but said banning homemade lunches completely was overreaching.

"I see the junk that kids bring in," Hamlin told AOL News by phone today. "But some parents want their kids to eat only organic or vegan meals, and those parents should not be undermined. Sometimes meals from home are much healthier."

Hamlin said a policy that banned junk food may make more sense.

According to the Tribune, some students at Little Village Academy are in a state of near revolt over the policy. As much revolt as a group of elementary students can muster, anyway.

"We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch!" students reportedly chanted when a reporter from the paper visited the cafeteria one day.

The students vowed to bring wholesome food to school in the event of a policy change. Mostly.

"Sometimes I would bring the healthy stuff," Julian Ruiz, a second-grader, told the Tribune, "but sometimes I would bring Lunchables."

Justin Wilson, a senior policy analyst at the Center for Consumer Freedom, said parents should be able to make choices about what their kids eat. "They're saying, 'Parents don't know what's best for their children, the government does.' "

He also said forcing students to eat food that may not taste good to them won't encourage them to eat nutritiously in the future.

"No one likes to eat food that doesn't taste good. This is a recipe for teaching children to hate healthy food," Wilson said.
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JustMX
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4/12/2011 5:53am
government overreach is as redundant as smelly garbage.
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4/12/2011 7:06am
Yeah, that's over the top
I understand their thinking, but not their business, not to mention most school lunches is shit food anyway made for pennies
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4/12/2011 7:25am
Have yall seen what Chef Jamie Oliver is doing working with school districts? He has been working with the providers for school food to develop recipes that are both healthier and also tastier for the kids. He's done it successfully in a few districts in the UK and the US already. He's doing some really good work to bring healthy food to all kids, not just the ones who have food at home.

Shame when he landed in LA they called him up while he was still at LAX and told him they had learned of his program and his plans to present it to the LA school district, and that he shouldn't even bother. They don't need his help and don't want an outsider coming in and telling them what to do.
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It's the "we know better than you" attitude.

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flarider wrote:
Yeah, that's over the top
I understand their thinking, but not their business, not to mention most school lunches is shit food anyway made for pennies
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets?

As a kid growing up we actually had some pretty good food in the cafeteria for lunch, and looking back it really was balanced and nutritious--and probably gave us all an idea of what our diet ought to look like even if our parents diet didn't (mine did).
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4/12/2011 8:59am
SteveS wrote:
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets? As...
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets?

As a kid growing up we actually had some pretty good food in the cafeteria for lunch, and looking back it really was balanced and nutritious--and probably gave us all an idea of what our diet ought to look like even if our parents diet didn't (mine did).
My high-school had a culinary arts program and they made the food for the cafeteria. The stuff was better than your average cafeteria food. Most kids still went for the junk though.
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4/12/2011 10:16am Edited Date/Time 4/12/2011 10:17am
flarider wrote:
Yeah, that's over the top
I understand their thinking, but not their business, not to mention most school lunches is shit food anyway made for pennies
SteveS wrote:
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets? As...
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets?

As a kid growing up we actually had some pretty good food in the cafeteria for lunch, and looking back it really was balanced and nutritious--and probably gave us all an idea of what our diet ought to look like even if our parents diet didn't (mine did).
That's because back then the wages were a lot less and food cost was nowhere near what it is now.

Schools get a laughable amount of money to provide lunches.
You end up with 2 people that are barely at the skill level of a fry cook being paid just above minimum wage in a lot of cases trying to make lunch for 300 kids everyday.....it doesn't work.


That being said I agree with Dave.....nice idea poor execution.
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4/12/2011 10:20am
It's fine if they want to offer it free to the kids. People shouldn't have to pay for public school lunch anyway. I smell Michelle Obama in this.
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burn1986 wrote:
It's fine if they want to offer it free to the kids. People shouldn't have to pay for public school lunch anyway. I smell Michelle Obama...
It's fine if they want to offer it free to the kids. People shouldn't have to pay for public school lunch anyway. I smell Michelle Obama in this.
Of course you do
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4/12/2011 4:01pm
flarider wrote:
Yeah, that's over the top
I understand their thinking, but not their business, not to mention most school lunches is shit food anyway made for pennies
SteveS wrote:
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets? As...
Whatever happened to the days of school cooks actually cooking food from ingredients? How did it come to opening boxes and handing out sealed packets?

As a kid growing up we actually had some pretty good food in the cafeteria for lunch, and looking back it really was balanced and nutritious--and probably gave us all an idea of what our diet ought to look like even if our parents diet didn't (mine did).
jndmx wrote:
That's because back then the wages were a lot less and food cost was nowhere near what it is now. Schools get a laughable amount of...
That's because back then the wages were a lot less and food cost was nowhere near what it is now.

Schools get a laughable amount of money to provide lunches.
You end up with 2 people that are barely at the skill level of a fry cook being paid just above minimum wage in a lot of cases trying to make lunch for 300 kids everyday.....it doesn't work.


That being said I agree with Dave.....nice idea poor execution.
Maybe we need to be spending a few thousand dollars on the cooks and food instead of millions on all the new buildings and computers and football fields. Might actually have a better educational benefit.

The school cafeteria cooks union must not have been strong enough.
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4/12/2011 4:09pm
you guys dont even realise that when you vote these fools in you are asking them to tell you everything to do!

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