For Flarider and other Mary J addiction naysayers

dirthead1
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3/14/2008 7:46am
She's been studying this for 20 years & still doesn't have any facts?
dirthead1
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3/14/2008 7:51am Edited Date/Time 3/14/2008 7:52am
Over it. Post edited
SEEMEFIRST
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3/14/2008 7:52am
There's 4 million going in the shitter. They could have used some of that to fix the kid on that page.
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3/14/2008 9:21am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="BMSOB":2llfkeev]She's been studying this for 20 years & still doesn't have any facts?[/quote:2llfkeev]

It has been proven that researchers that go into their studies expecting a certain outcome, will subconsciously interpret their results in a manner that supports their bias. One of the first tenets of good research is maintaining an unbiased position throughout the research period. If she goes into this study holding the opinion that MJ is addictive, she will more than likely exit her research with the same opinion.

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3/14/2008 9:33am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="BMSOB":262ba7sp]She's been studying this for 20 years & still doesn't have any facts?[/quote:262ba7sp]

Marijuana has addled your brain so much that you can't comprehend what you read any more?

She has been an addicton researcher for two decades. During that time she's received accolades for her work in alcohol addiction, depression, and treatment. Not marijuana. This research will be her (and actually the world's) first study of marijuana addiction and withdrawal using new information about what receptor in the brain is affected by marijuana use, along with a differing understanding of what withdrawal from marijuana does (since it's not as violently evident as DT's, etc.)
3/14/2008 9:52am
OK, where do I sign up? I have quit smoking weed several times and all it is is a little grumpyness along with vivid dreams.
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3/14/2008 10:25am
I can become addicted to eating crayons too...so?

and once I quit eating crayons, I could become irritable, so?
Again, differentiate between physical/chemical and psychological addictions

People can become addicted to even the smallest things, look at OCD afflicted people
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3/14/2008 10:33am
I smoked pot daily for about 10 years, then quit and never had any interest after that. Marijuana isn't addictive, period. It may be habit-forming in some people like drinking Coca Cola, eating sweets, stuff like that - but it's not addictive.
3/14/2008 10:33am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="SteveS":xmi23hxm]
She has been an addicton researcher for two decades. During that time she's received accolades for her work in alcohol addiction, depression, and treatment. Not marijuana. This research will be her (and actually the world's) first study of marijuana addiction and withdrawal using new information about what receptor in the brain is affected by marijuana use, along with a differing understanding of what withdrawal from marijuana does (since it's not as violently evident as DT's, etc.)[/quote:xmi23hxm]
...And she doesn't know that the "T" in DTs stands for [i:xmi23hxm]tremens[/i:xmi23hxm]?

[quote:xmi23hxm]Atrophy of the brain and cirrhosis of the liver are long-term side effects of heavy alcohol dependence. And withdrawal for alcoholics can bring sometimes fatal delirium [color=red:xmi23hxm]tremors[/color:xmi23hxm] and convulsions.[/quote:xmi23hxm]

Credibility shot in the first paragraph..
3/14/2008 11:14am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="SteveS":39fw1hpc][quote="BMSOB":39fw1hpc]She's been studying this for 20 years & still doesn't have any facts?[/quote:39fw1hpc]

[b:39fw1hpc]Marijuana has addled your brain so much that you can't comprehend what you read any more?[/b:39fw1hpc]

She has been an addicton researcher for two decades. During that time she's received accolades for her work in alcohol addiction, depression, and treatment. Not marijuana. This research will be her (and actually the world's) first study of marijuana addiction and withdrawal using new information about what receptor in the brain is affected by marijuana use, along with a differing understanding of what withdrawal from marijuana does (since it's not as violently evident as DT's, etc.)[/quote:39fw1hpc]

That must be it. Got any reefer? :?
3/14/2008 11:38am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="motogeezer":arkbpq1t]

[quote:arkbpq1t]Atrophy of the brain and cirrhosis of the liver are long-term side effects of heavy alcohol dependence. And withdrawal for alcoholics can bring sometimes fatal delirium [color=red:arkbpq1t]tremors[/color:arkbpq1t] and convulsions.[/quote:arkbpq1t]

Credibility shot in the first paragraph..[/quote:arkbpq1t]

That was not a quote of the researcher. It was the lead paragraph written by the SD news people.
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3/14/2008 11:43am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="flarider":2rh60jqx]I can become addicted to eating crayons too...so?

and once I quit eating crayons, I could become irritable, so?
Again, differentiate between physical/chemical and psychological addictions

People can become addicted to even the smallest things, look at OCD afflicted people[/quote:2rh60jqx]

You know it all, Dave. Keep up the good work and keep thinking that the earth is flat and the hammer and chisel are better than the pen.
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3/14/2008 11:44am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="SteveS":24i0bsq2][quote="motogeezer":24i0bsq2]

[quote:24i0bsq2]Atrophy of the brain and cirrhosis of the liver are long-term side effects of heavy alcohol dependence. And withdrawal for alcoholics can bring sometimes fatal delirium [color=red:24i0bsq2]tremors[/color:24i0bsq2] and convulsions.[/quote:24i0bsq2]

Credibility shot in the first paragraph..[/quote:24i0bsq2]

That was not a quote of the researcher. It was the lead paragraph written by the SD news people.[/quote:24i0bsq2]

We always have to remember that anyone can post here. Even the mentally challenged have a chance to voice an opinion here.
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3/14/2008 12:07pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="dirthead1":26fkav8g][quote="flarider":26fkav8g]I can become addicted to eating crayons too...so?

and once I quit eating crayons, I could become irritable, so?
Again, differentiate between physical/chemical and psychological addictions

People can become addicted to even the smallest things, look at OCD afflicted people[/quote:26fkav8g]

You know it all, Dave. Keep up the good work and keep thinking that the earth is flat and the hammer and chisel are better than the pen.[/quote:26fkav8g]
So says the full of shit wanna be who couldn't even answer some of the most BASIC questions last time

and what are your credentials again?
Oh, you have none

and what is your training again?
Oh, you have none

But you're the expert.
Least I'm not saying or pretending to be the expert, unlike you
dirthead1
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3/14/2008 12:30pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="flarider":ez4av57s][quote="dirthead1":ez4av57s][quote="flarider":ez4av57s]I can become addicted to eating crayons too...so?

and once I quit eating crayons, I could become irritable, so?
Again, differentiate between physical/chemical and psychological addictions

People can become addicted to even the smallest things, look at OCD afflicted people[/quote:ez4av57s]

You know it all, Dave. Keep up the good work and keep thinking that the earth is flat and the hammer and chisel are better than the pen.[/quote:ez4av57s]
So says the full of shit wanna be who couldn't even answer some of the most BASIC questions last time

and what are your credentials again?
Oh, you have none

and what is your training again?
Oh, you have none

But you're the expert.
Least I'm not saying or pretending to be the expert, unlike you[/quote:ez4av57s]

The funny thing is that I don't have to answer any of those questions asked by you. This isn't the "Dave Show". My game my rules.I have nothing to prove to you about "what I do" or "how I am qualified". Your assumptions of whatever are yours entirely. And like always, you think you are right and you're not.
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3/14/2008 12:31pm
Like a fish to water. So predictable...
dirthead1
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3/14/2008 12:34pm
What training do you have in chemistry Dave?
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3/14/2008 12:39pm
When did I ever claim to have any?
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3/14/2008 12:45pm
i don't think the archives go back far enough...
3/14/2008 12:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="dirthead1":1ikrc8pr][quote="SteveS":1ikrc8pr]
That was not a quote of the researcher. It was the lead paragraph written by the SD news people.[/quote:1ikrc8pr]

We always have to remember that anyone can post here. Even the mentally challenged have a chance to voice an opinion here.[/quote:1ikrc8pr]

Sorry about that.

I'm pretty stoned at the moment...
3/14/2008 1:28pm
Drugs react to people differently. I was taking vicodin for over a year for my back. My connection ran out a month or two ago and I never had a withdrawl.
3/14/2008 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="2-smoke":rmqb2cef]Addiction is classified as, if your body needs it to function. You can quit weed without any withdrawals. You can't just quit heroin. Heroin is addictive. Lortabs are addictive.[/quote:rmqb2cef]


Where is this "classification" you are referring to?
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3/14/2008 1:33pm
Dirthead1 is so over this place. Meltdown in 5, 4..
3/14/2008 1:36pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="radonc73":7xn2fyiq]I have quit smoking weed several times and all it is is a little grumpyness along with vivid dreams.[/quote:7xn2fyiq]


well you have certainly come to the right place to post then . " title="Laughing">
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3/14/2008 9:54pm
Spend some time around a heroin or alcohol addict when they are going through withdrawals. Then sit next to a pothead who just stopped smoking.

You tell me the differences. They are astonishing.

Weed may be harmful, but it sure as shit isnt addictive.
3/14/2008 9:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
That is the observation which led to the conventional wisdom that marijuana isn't addictive. It has not, however, been scientifically studied. Only anecdotally repeated.

And we learned from the global warming thread that real scientists only regard peer reviewed journal published studies as being truth. Why should the question of whether the "psychological dependency" that is also anecdotally reported is actually a physical addiction not be studied and published?
3/15/2008 12:36am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
[quote="leakypipe23":1ao8h0cy]Weed is not physically addictive, period.[/quote:1ao8h0cy]
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3/15/2008 12:48am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:23pm
I know of a few people who cant go half the day without smoking the shit. If its not addictive, then what would you call it? People who cant function properly without smoking weed have addiction problems in my book. Addictions come in all forms, not just heroin and crystal meth. Fast food can become an addiction. Dont ask me how I know that " title="Smile">

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