F3 crash, no run off

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Lynch 11/19/2018 10:27pm
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Been watching racing for many years , and this wreck still has me puzzled. Don't believe the video in which say's she was traveling at 276mph....since...
Been watching racing for many years , and this wreck still has me puzzled. Don't believe the video in which say's she was traveling at 276mph....since an F3 car can't go near that fast. What is mind boggling is the speed in which she was traveling at , in that section of the track. It seems almost impossible? How does one get to enough speed , hit someone else , turned around backward's and still hit the stand at that speed? I can only think of a stuck throttle with a clear track? But even then.....it isn't making much sense to me. Really wish I could see up the track a bit to see what caused all this. I don't think I've seen a formula car go off track that fast in a long time. Especially an F3 car.
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Everything I read listed it as km/h There is footage of what happened She was battling with a driver, he braked earlier than she expected, they...
Everything I read listed it as km/h

There is footage of what happened
She was battling with a driver, he braked earlier than she expected, they hit and her 2 left wheels were broken off, that is why she couldn’t really slow down a lot.

Amazing no one was killed
That is true, 276 kmh not mph.
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GuyB 11/20/2018 11:41am
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I'd guess she spun backwards, caught the next car in line, climbed the tire, and got propelled up and forward.
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GrapeApe 11/20/2018 12:14pm
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Surreal. I wonder if the wing gave her lift once she spun backwards at that speed? It looks like when she hit the tower her helmet/head hit right where there is an opening in the structure. If her helmet hit anywhere else I'm guessing a different outcome.
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Hman144 11/21/2018 8:04am
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Can you imaging how hard inertia tried to rip her out of the cockpit when that car slammed the viewing stand? I'm surprised she's not more broken than she is. I guess that says a lot about how far driver safety has come. Hope she makes a full recovery.

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jeffro503 11/21/2018 6:34pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Front view of the accident.

https://youtu.be/7t39eHCgZ6s
Thanks Mav! This has been bugging me for day's trying to figure that out. It is definitely in a different section of the track in which I had previously thought as well. Still astonishing on how hard and fast she flew off the track.
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-MAVERICK- 11/21/2018 8:27pm
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Had the second car not been there I think I she would have been fine.

What I don't get is how the halo was made mandatory for F1 yet the lower tier racing leagues have not adopted it. I know in this specific case it wouldn't have made a difference but I think the rule should have been put in place in those leagues before F1. After all the driver's are younger and still developing their skills.

If the FIA is requiring all F1 cars to have it, don't you think it would only make sense for every open wheel car racing league to have it in place?
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CM_84 11/21/2018 9:11pm
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Had the second car not been there I think I she would have been fine. What I don't get is how the halo was made mandatory...
Had the second car not been there I think I she would have been fine.

What I don't get is how the halo was made mandatory for F1 yet the lower tier racing leagues have not adopted it. I know in this specific case it wouldn't have made a difference but I think the rule should have been put in place in those leagues before F1. After all the driver's are younger and still developing their skills.

If the FIA is requiring all F1 cars to have it, don't you think it would only make sense for every open wheel car racing league to have it in place?
It is coming into lower formula, F2 has it, formula E has it.
I believe F3 cars aren’t necessarily built brand new every year, teams have relatively small budgets etc, it will come into all open wheelers eventually.
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hillbilly 11/22/2018 4:59am
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She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant.

Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married today.
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CM_84 11/22/2018 5:22am
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She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant. Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married...
She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant.

Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married today.
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hillbilly 11/22/2018 6:49am
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She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant. Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married...
She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant.

Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married today.
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It's a USA thing ,
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GIwasB4 11/22/2018 9:41am
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hillbilly wrote:
She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant. Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married...
She ran past the parabolic lineage of the female brain talent quadrant.

Those Chinese sure do what they are told, Bernie would honeymoon there if married today.
Funny. That was my exact thought when I watched the vid the first time.
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Beeby 11/22/2018 10:51am
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The Halo came about as a result of the deaths of Henry Surtees in F2 and Jules Bianchi in F1 I believe. It does surprise me that they don’t make them mandatory for all open cockpit classes
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CM_84 11/23/2018 12:17am
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Details of the 2019 F3 car have been released, they will be getting the Halo next year
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-MAVERICK- 11/23/2018 12:55am
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CM_84 wrote:
Details of the 2019 F3 car have been released, they will be getting the Halo next year



Andy_Greenney 11/24/2018 11:33am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Surreal. I wonder if the wing gave her lift once she spun backwards at that speed? It looks like when she hit the tower her helmet/head...
Surreal. I wonder if the wing gave her lift once she spun backwards at that speed? It looks like when she hit the tower her helmet/head hit right where there is an opening in the structure. If her helmet hit anywhere else I'm guessing a different outcome.
Im not big on aerodynamics but a wing wouldn’t change lift/downforce depending on airflow direction? The underside of the car would probably help keep airborne once it’s caught air though
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SEEMEFIRST 11/25/2018 9:50am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Surreal. I wonder if the wing gave her lift once she spun backwards at that speed? It looks like when she hit the tower her helmet/head...
Surreal. I wonder if the wing gave her lift once she spun backwards at that speed? It looks like when she hit the tower her helmet/head hit right where there is an opening in the structure. If her helmet hit anywhere else I'm guessing a different outcome.
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Im not big on aerodynamics but a wing wouldn’t change lift/downforce depending on airflow direction? The underside of the car would probably help keep airborne once...
Im not big on aerodynamics but a wing wouldn’t change lift/downforce depending on airflow direction? The underside of the car would probably help keep airborne once it’s caught air though
Yeah, to get lift out of a wing, you'd need to be inverted going forward.

The floor probably helped it fly, like you said.
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blusmbl 11/25/2018 11:11am
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It will still generate lift, but the air flowing across the wing in reverse is going to stall almost immediately, especially as the angle of attack increases as the rear of the car is lifted further and further off the ground.

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SEEMEFIRST 11/25/2018 2:16pm
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Perhaps slightly, but I'm pretty sure the other car generated all the lift, and the floor helped keep it there.

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