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But this is an odd situation. Missouri is an open carry state so should the firefighter be charged or do we end up with shootouts between folks over things like this?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/armed-man-arrested-at-missouri-walmart-polic…
https://www.foxnews.com/us/armed-man-arrested-at-missouri-walmart-polic…
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Actually the ex-firefighter could be charged with brandishing, and unlawful confinement for holding the guy at gunpoint who hadn't broken any laws at that point.
That’s how ours.
The Shop
"...led a store manager to pull the fire alarm and sent customers fleeing..."
Are all of you getting soft as fuck ? Seems to me the manager was at that time being ordered to do something against his will by an assailant !!!
Yet everyone's ok with a kindergartener being arrested for having a green toy soldier in his pocket?!?
Yeah I know two different situations completely but it's getting out of hand these wanna be sick fucks to see their names in the news. Kill them all then this shit will stop.
I am curious too, what they will charge him with. But I am totally convinced that he had planned to shoot the place up, and that the store manager pulling the alarm messed up his plan.
And if you even mention a bomb, or hijacking in a
big airport terminal, even as a joke, you're gonna get searched and interrogated for hours.
I dunno. With like 4000 laws out there it seems there should be something. Malicious mischief,
something.
But hey, the Ruby Ridge thing, those guys were
openly carrying rifles.
I know that smart ass needs one thing, and that's the snot beat out of him.
Me seeing a new guy leaving my neighbor's house each morning at 6AM while he was working the night shift "led" me to alert him of that happening...…...
If the prosecutor wouldn't charge this man for drawing his weapon on this guy (assuming that the other guy was simply carrying and not actually threatening anyone) what would it take to bring charges? Would/should the firefighter's occupation make a difference?
This is a crazy situation, but it's one of those extremes that makes you wonder what happens if everyone carries, everyone draws their own inferences on what is a threat, etc.
More likely he's one of those "auditors" that they like to call themselves....
If he was just “auditing” them, why have them loaded and have 100 rounds with you!
It would be a lot easier to explain to the cops with no ammo.
That's the whole MO of these "auditors". They press to the very edge of the envelope, but by a strict reading of the laws they are usually technically correct, but socially they are shitheads......
You’re probably right. But doing an audit like that would be extra dumb this week, in a Walmart, wearing body armour. But we already know he’s not too bright.
What a stupid thing to do right now.
but serious question, what do American's think of this sort of this sort of deliberate provocation of people in the days after a mass shooting, someone's constitutional right? or just being a fuck wit?
Pit Row
But technically what the guy was doing is perfectly legal.
He's obviously an attention whore, but in reality the firefighter sounds like he was the aggressor here.
Or is the guy who pulled his gun and detained him being charged? That act is one that truly could be criminal.
Which one is the mythical "good guy with a gun"?
To add a small wrinkle, let's just say that instead of a long gun he only had a handgun under a jacket. Same basic events occur and the firefighter holds him at gunpoint outside. I know many folks here talk about their "daily carry", but are they okay with this firefighter cowboy drawing on them simply because they are armed (ironically just the same as the firefighter)?
Where do we draw lines, or are we all comfortable with other citizens potentially drawing weapons on our loved ones simply because they perceive an unimplied threat?
I don't think I would prosecute the ex-firefigher, but I know in Texas, they could.
As far as the firefighter, given the events in the last week I applaud him. At the time he doesn’t know the kid’s basically pulling a prank. He sees a kid in tactical gear with a loaded ar-15 in a public place. To be clear I own a few guns. Even have a couple AR’s but in my opinion theres zero reason citizens should be open carrying an AR. It’s not normal and this day and age it incites fear and panic in the general public.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/juliareinstei…
And just to be clear, I am intentionally playing devil’s advocate on every side of this because I think it helps illustrate how complicated and subjective the subject is. I appreciate that this discussion is pretty darned civil and hasn’t devolved into a political “the other side sucks” sort of mudfest.
While I personally don’t like these attention whore, self described “auditors” and their ilk, they sometimes reveal areas in our society where we don’t practice what we preach. For instance, if I see an older guy walking down the street in a blazer and the wind whips showing a handgun in a shoulder harness, I’d probably have a much different reaction than if I saw a guy covered with face tats, wearing a wife beater and with a gun tucked into his waistband.
Technically they both have the same right to carry, but they would be treated much differently by passers by, and most likely by law enforcement.
Like you, I have been playing both sides in my head, and I'm just glad I don't have to make the decisions here.
What I know is that in Texas, you better have a damn good reason and some evidence to point your pistol at someone.
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