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That guy you see down at your local bar on a Friday night with his hat on, he ain’t no Cowboy.
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Maybe you need to redefine your definition of, “Cowboy”.
A hippie is?
Someone who views the world and nature more communal and holistically
Communal tribe minded who desire a lifestyle much like many Native Americans lived. Simple life of meeting day to day needs rather than continual consuming and societal stratification. (Rousseau's noble savage"
historically in America
A middle class boomers who grew up under a a deliberate campaign that a nuclear war was imminent, was fed a steady diet of self sabotaging ideals primarily originating from the crown of England, and was educated in college by Alinksy Marxist community organizers, who had already infiltrated the US University system. They experienced assassinations of political leaders, a BS war and draft and realized something in the world was wrong
feel free to ad to the definition please be decent
But as I explained in the previous thread, theyre at ideological polar opposites of cowboys.
In the purest form of the cowboy, is the power of the individual. The opposite if groupthink collectivism.
You ever seen a hippy farm?
Compare that to a cowboy’s farm.
Night & day productivity. Why? The cowboy adheres to structure, among other ideological differences.
They’re nothing alike.
Both subscribed hard to their ideological values. And yes they put thought into it, but no it isn’t relevant if they did, actions speak louder than words. How you live is what you are.
The hippies lived in filthy communes. Barely got by due to laziness. Kids were behind in school. And their parents were incredibly divisive at school board meetings. They spent all their energy on environmental issues (never solving a thing). And their overzealous belief in vegetarianism was a constant hurdle they couldnt reconcile with their rancher neughbors who raised cattle.
Cowboys want to be left alone to do as they please on their land. Hippies want to know everything that’s going about on other people’s land so they can dictate what you do.
And if you share a driveway with a hippy? Good luck getting them to chip in on the road maintenance. All that kumbaya bullshit goes out the window. They’ll limp their shitbox VW van into the the ground before fixing the potholes in the SHARED road.
I lived the exact experiment you seek an answer too. Im telling you, it doesnt work.
And on a greater scale we’re seeing that in America right now as the cowboys & hippies are very far apart on every issue. As they should be, because they’re opposites.
Farming is hard ass work. It requires lots of discipline & structure. Structure & discipline are the antithesis of hippy ideological values.
The only truly successful hippy farmers were the pot growers. Who all got pushed into insolvency the moment pot went legal and they faced competition from actual hard working people. Think about that, their greatest financial achievement was only the result of artificial value due to prohibition. They had a 40 year headstart on the industry and got wiped out in less than 2 years because they couldn’t compete with cowboy minded people.
The differences are night & day.
Pit Row
https://youtu.be/i97OkCXwotE
if you seen three men in a pick-up
Dressed alike from boot to hat?
Could you tell which one was the real cowboy just from where he sat?"
I did not get that movie at all. Failed to finish it several times. Then I heard Bill Burr rant on it so i said fuck it, im gonna sit thru this thing if it kills me.
The ending made it all make sense. I fucking love that movie now. QT is a genius.
But ultimately we are what we do. Not what political party we claim affiliation too.
As far as co-existence, dont I wish that could be done well. But the human condition prevents it. Moral decay is inevitable so a stable holding position is not possible. That's the argument for orthodoxy. And it's evidenced by every winning sports team ever.
And I wish we could live and let live. But the hippy doctrine prevents it. It's a ponzi scheme that in order to stay solvent needs to grow. It took 30 years but I finally understand McCarthy's argument. The collectivists will never let good enough alone.
Structure, discipline, accountability, borders, boundaries, patriarchy, leadership, individualism, competition, meritocracy, logic, etc.
vs
No rules, no boundaries, no gender roles, no discipline, no accountability, anti-patriarchy, groupthink, participation trophies, emotions, etc.
One group feels the way to solve problems is to look in the mirror. The other believes the way to solve problems is to blame the system and change everything else around them to suit their idiosyncrasies.
The best argument for hippies & cowboys co-existing is the relationship between man and woman. It's a good argument. Problem is, hippies hate acknowledgement of our biological differences.
They never got their farms cleaned up or producing well. In fact, a majority of them couldnt stay solvent as they got crippled by environmental regulations THEY SPENT THEIR LIVES ADVOCATING FOR YET NEVER ADHERED TOO! hahaha. Talk about biting yourself in the ass - the hippies are directly responsible for weaponizing the departments & regulations that got them all put out of business!
Money does not solve problems. It's an amplifier (of both good or bad).
I've done some consulting work for some VERY WELL FUNDED ($10 million plus) pot farms. I saw their balance sheets and spent days on their facilities getting to know staff and operations. Total typical hippy shitshow. Money made zero difference to solving their problems.
https://youtu.be/-3wX6J19nqQ
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