Cosby's a LUCKY man

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Edited Date/Time 6/30/2021 10:06am
Despicable scum. If he'd done that here in the U.K. he'd be going to gaol. No statute of limitations on crimes here - nor should there be.

Ask any of the several high profile sex offenders recently locked up for historic crimes.
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11/21/2014 4:01am
He hasn`t been found guilty yet, has he....?
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11/21/2014 5:11am
Has he been arrested/found guilty/sentenced or are we going off the words of a few money grubbing scanks? It is yet to be seen.
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11/21/2014 5:31am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2014 5:32am
I'm not sure where I stand on this thing yet. Of course, there's not much evidence one way or the other and he's innocent until proven guilty. But we've seen several high profile celebrities and athletes where the snowball starts rolling and it only picks up steam. Just hoping this doesn't take that route. A great example is the Penn State fiasco.

I agree with fish at this point though. It was probably consensual at the time and now they just want some money.
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11/21/2014 5:59am
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I'm not sure where I stand on this thing yet. Of course, there's not much evidence one way or the other and he's innocent until proven...
I'm not sure where I stand on this thing yet. Of course, there's not much evidence one way or the other and he's innocent until proven guilty. But we've seen several high profile celebrities and athletes where the snowball starts rolling and it only picks up steam. Just hoping this doesn't take that route. A great example is the Penn State fiasco.

I agree with fish at this point though. It was probably consensual at the time and now they just want some money.
Unfortunately, the Penn State thing turned out to be true, but fortunate that he is now in jail.
If Cosby is guilty of sexual assault he needs to be in jail. That needs to be proven though. I just hate when these high profile people are dragged (or is it drug) through the mud out of greed and jealousy.

Hell I still don't fully believe Michael Jackson was guilty.

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11/21/2014 6:55am
IWreckALot wrote:
I'm not sure where I stand on this thing yet. Of course, there's not much evidence one way or the other and he's innocent until proven...
I'm not sure where I stand on this thing yet. Of course, there's not much evidence one way or the other and he's innocent until proven guilty. But we've seen several high profile celebrities and athletes where the snowball starts rolling and it only picks up steam. Just hoping this doesn't take that route. A great example is the Penn State fiasco.

I agree with fish at this point though. It was probably consensual at the time and now they just want some money.
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Unfortunately, the Penn State thing turned out to be true, but fortunate that he is now in jail. If Cosby is guilty of sexual assault he...
Unfortunately, the Penn State thing turned out to be true, but fortunate that he is now in jail.
If Cosby is guilty of sexual assault he needs to be in jail. That needs to be proven though. I just hate when these high profile people are dragged (or is it drug) through the mud out of greed and jealousy.

Hell I still don't fully believe Michael Jackson was guilty.
Fame and fortune come at a cost, funny how high profile people want attention, but when they fuck up , its nobodys business. Yea poor rich people, lol. Cant have it bothways.
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As I understand things he will never face trial on these accusations as there's a statute of limitations on this type of crime in the States and these exceed the time limit. I surely hope I've got it wrong and he faces trial.

And Wreck-a-lot, how many women take date rape drugs as part of consensual sex? Several separate women with the same story all un-aware of the other accusations.
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11/21/2014 7:39am
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As I understand things he will [u]never[/u] face trial on these accusations as there's a statute of limitations on this type of crime in the States...
As I understand things he will never face trial on these accusations as there's a statute of limitations on this type of crime in the States and these exceed the time limit. I surely hope I've got it wrong and he faces trial.

And Wreck-a-lot, how many women take date rape drugs as part of consensual sex? Several separate women with the same story all un-aware of the other accusations.
Sorry I hadn't read the details until I read a story after I posted. To answer your question, probably 0 women do that.

There are statute of limitations on certain crimes. I don't know whether this falls under those statutes. The Penn state deal occurred many years before the perv was indicted so this may not fall under those statutes.

Something just seems out of place with the timing. What burden of proof do they have? How do they prove that they were drugged? Do they have test results? The story I read was that they allegedly agreed to take hush money. Now they want more money so they no longer remain hush. . . Something smells like a fish here. If it was so important to them, why in the world would they have taken hush money? At this point it almost comes across as a blackmail attempt. . .

I'm not arguing that he's innocent. He could very well be guilty and if that's the case, it's disappointing to say the least and he needs to pay the consequences. I just find it ridiculous that these women didn't speak up at the time it happened. Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Lance Armstrong's fiasco went down similar as did Letterman's.
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http://www.vox.com/2014/11/20/7255095/bill-cosby-rape-lawsuit

Here is a good article explaining the statute of limitations. Sounds like it's an uphill battle.

Again, not saying he's innocent, but why did these women wait as long as they did to come forward. And why are they coming forward now if they know the statute of limitations has expired? It seems like a ploy for airtime, defamation and blackmail attempt to me.
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Asking Bill Cosby if he is a serial rapist


SCOTT SIMON: This question gives me no pleasure Mr. Cosby, but there have been serious allegations raised about you in recent days.

BILL COSBY: [SILENCE, 2 SECONDS]

SIMON: You're shaking your head no. I'm in the news business. I have to ask the question. Do you have any response to those charges?

COSBY: [SILENCE, 2 SECONDS]

SIMON: Shaking your head no. There are people who love you who might like to hear from you about this. I want to give you the chance.

COSBY: [SILENCE, 5 SECONDS]

SIMON: All right. Camille and Bill Cosby — they have lent 62 pieces from their collection of African and African-American artists to create an exhibit called 'Conversations: African and African-American Artworks In Dialogue.' It's now on display at the Smithsonian National Museum of African Art through early 2016. Thank you both for joining us.

CAMILLE COSBY: Thank you. Thank you.
11/21/2014 8:41am
There are more than a dozen allegations of him drugging and raping women. I seriously doubt there was some conspiracy.
Having said that, in Hollyweird anything can happen. The whole thing could have been engineered by rivals to torpedo his new show, which it did. But that doesn't mean the accusations are not true.
11/21/2014 9:46am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2014 9:53am
I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this is helping to sell.

I feel they would've been blackmailing him for years if this had any truth, but we will see.
11/21/2014 9:58am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2014 9:59am
I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this...
I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this is helping to sell.

I feel they would've been blackmailing him for years if this had any truth, but we will see.
At the time these incidents allegedly occurred Cosby was one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. He is and was well known for destroying the careers of those who crossed them. He got a radio host fired in L.A. for criticizing his wife's racism rant shortly after his son was gunned down. These allegations have been popping up for years and quickly quieted with settlements or threats. People say "Why has it taken so long" "Why didn't they say something sooner". If the allegations are true Cosby knew how to pick his prey; young aspiring actresses, models, and entertainment industry types looking for their big break likely to be intimidated by the star power of Cosby. As his influenced has faded in old age and they have less to lose maybe they feel more secure in coming forward now. Multiple allegations over the span of several decades? An a type personality known for intimidation and control by those in the industry? Janice Dickinson has been saying Bill Cosby was a piece of shit for years on the Howard Stern show and eluded to the fact that there were things she wanted to say about Cosby in her book that her publisher wouldn't let her. It will be interesting to see what happens, innocent or guilt it couldn't of happened to a bigger asshole.
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11/21/2014 10:28am
Sure sounds guilty , to many people to many stories with the same deal, glass of wine and wake up in different clothes and violated.

if someone drugs a person and they consent is it rape ?
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11/21/2014 10:47am
Does it help that I'm trying to will it all not to be true? The Cosby Show was a big part of my childhood and the man recently came through my neck of the woods doing stand up (well, in a chair, but still) and was fantastic as ever. I admit things do not look good, but I'm not prepared to call the man guilty of anything just yet. Innocent until proven guilty, regardless of how things may look. To the OP's point though, I agree that no statute of limitations is needed BADLY in this country.
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11/21/2014 10:55am
He is a liberal ,no need for him to worry about shit,just like clinton.

Cosby will be a hero for gentleness while they were unconscious and the mixed signals a splayed out woman sends,not his fault.
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Sure sounds guilty , to many people to many stories with the same deal, glass of wine and wake up in different clothes and violated. if...
Sure sounds guilty , to many people to many stories with the same deal, glass of wine and wake up in different clothes and violated.

if someone drugs a person and they consent is it rape ?
It is absolutely considered rape.
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I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this...
I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this is helping to sell.

I feel they would've been blackmailing him for years if this had any truth, but we will see.
At the time these incidents allegedly occurred Cosby was one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. He is and was well known for destroying the...
At the time these incidents allegedly occurred Cosby was one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. He is and was well known for destroying the careers of those who crossed them. He got a radio host fired in L.A. for criticizing his wife's racism rant shortly after his son was gunned down. These allegations have been popping up for years and quickly quieted with settlements or threats. People say "Why has it taken so long" "Why didn't they say something sooner". If the allegations are true Cosby knew how to pick his prey; young aspiring actresses, models, and entertainment industry types looking for their big break likely to be intimidated by the star power of Cosby. As his influenced has faded in old age and they have less to lose maybe they feel more secure in coming forward now. Multiple allegations over the span of several decades? An a type personality known for intimidation and control by those in the industry? Janice Dickinson has been saying Bill Cosby was a piece of shit for years on the Howard Stern show and eluded to the fact that there were things she wanted to say about Cosby in her book that her publisher wouldn't let her. It will be interesting to see what happens, innocent or guilt it couldn't of happened to a bigger asshole.
The logic just doesn't sit too well with me. They basically said, "Ok my career is worth getting violated like that so I'm going to stay quiet?" I know it's more complex than that, but you made the decision to pursue Cosby or not. Make up your mind. Either you're willing to compromise your morals or you're not. And Samdanny said the same thing I was trying to say.

I'm not saying Cosby is innocent, but the women didn't do themselves any favors and are in their position because of their own inaction. Doesn't make it right, but it's the way the system works. They had years and years and years before the statute expired. Plenty of time to think it through and get legal council.
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The prosecutor for Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, at the time, Bruce Castor, told CNN in a recent interview that he believed her allegations were credible, but he still declined to charge Cosby because he wasn't able to corroborate Constand's claims with blood tests or a rape kit.

"Back then, the desire on our part to move forward was pretty strong," Castor said. " The problem with the case was she waited a year until she told police about it . "



The prosecutor should shut up and not comment wether the allegations are credible or not as long as there is no case or lawsuit. It´s a violation of his right to be considered innocent until proven guilty (which they can´t, they have zero evidence)

It´s laughable how easy it is to make such allegations to make someone look bad, especially when they don´t come forward until years or decades have passed. Maybe he was a douche, so what? Prove it! Go to the police as soon as possible.

As if we haven´t seen this happen before. One attention hoe goes out in public with allegations and soon a bunch of these retards follow suit. It´s interesting how they rarely choose to be anonymous, like most real victims....
11/21/2014 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2014 12:13pm
I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this...
I find it strange very few of the women accusers have a good paycheck coming in anymore, and one of them just wrote a book this is helping to sell.

I feel they would've been blackmailing him for years if this had any truth, but we will see.
At the time these incidents allegedly occurred Cosby was one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. He is and was well known for destroying the...
At the time these incidents allegedly occurred Cosby was one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. He is and was well known for destroying the careers of those who crossed them. He got a radio host fired in L.A. for criticizing his wife's racism rant shortly after his son was gunned down. These allegations have been popping up for years and quickly quieted with settlements or threats. People say "Why has it taken so long" "Why didn't they say something sooner". If the allegations are true Cosby knew how to pick his prey; young aspiring actresses, models, and entertainment industry types looking for their big break likely to be intimidated by the star power of Cosby. As his influenced has faded in old age and they have less to lose maybe they feel more secure in coming forward now. Multiple allegations over the span of several decades? An a type personality known for intimidation and control by those in the industry? Janice Dickinson has been saying Bill Cosby was a piece of shit for years on the Howard Stern show and eluded to the fact that there were things she wanted to say about Cosby in her book that her publisher wouldn't let her. It will be interesting to see what happens, innocent or guilt it couldn't of happened to a bigger asshole.
It's a bit ironic this is helping a book be sold.
I'm thinking they didn't want those things in the book because it amounted to slander.
11/21/2014 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2014 12:20pm
A lot of what she's said on the morning talk shows does not make much sense either.
I'll wait to see what comes forward, but I'm not throwing a man under the bus in a place like Hollywood where women just are not that moral until some actual evidence is shown.
11/21/2014 12:33pm
A lot of what she's said on the morning talk shows does not make much sense either. I'll wait to see what comes forward, but I'm...
A lot of what she's said on the morning talk shows does not make much sense either.
I'll wait to see what comes forward, but I'm not throwing a man under the bus in a place like Hollywood where women just are not that moral until some actual evidence is shown.
Hmm and you think Bill Cosby and the men of Hollywood are of high moral character? Lets not forget who runs the studios in makes the rules in that town and its not a bunch of women.
11/21/2014 1:01pm
Hmm and you think Bill Cosby and the men of Hollywood are of high moral character? Lets not forget who runs the studios in makes the...
Hmm and you think Bill Cosby and the men of Hollywood are of high moral character? Lets not forget who runs the studios in makes the rules in that town and its not a bunch of women.
One of Bill Cosby's alleged sexual assault victims recently got out of prison for, among other things, fraud... Multiple sites are claiming this.

Another is selling a book and making a killing here.

Another had such high morals she was a playboy bunnie.

He didn't know one of them altogether.

And as time goes on I'm betting we see more stories crumble.

He sounds like a dirty old man, but not a rapist from the stories I'm hearing.
I never have liked the guy, but I dislike the idea of opportunists doing things for notoriety.
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11/21/2014 4:35pm
One of the things that make most people feel that Michael Jackson was guilty of molesting kids was his monetary settlement with his accusers. Sort of like Cosby's monetary settlement.

The guy has more money than he knows what to do with so he wasn't lacking for good legal representation.....
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11/21/2014 9:20pm
It's scary how easily you can tarnish someone's reputation in this day and age. There is an ALLEGED case of rape and some idiots are now the jury, judge, and executioner by only seeing the evidence put forth by "news" agencies. Give me a fricken break, you only know what they want you to know, which is what makes a good story. If he's guilty, I hope he gets what he deserves, if not, I hope we don't see an innocent person's like ruined. For anyone to act like they know one way or another is rediculous.
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they usually have something to gain, 5 min of fame, revenge for him being a douche or unfaithful, money etc.

But the strangest thing is, they often don´t need to gain anything. There are plenty of examples where "victims" have lied for no apparent reason at all.

However, bringing this stuff up now, when it is too late, and with their full name in the public - give me a break!
11/22/2014 6:13am
Everybody calm down. This is nothing but a smokescreen for Obamas immigration fiasco. More people will be focused on the the dirty laundry airing than the topic that matters and has relevance. Its the oldest trick in the book. It seems funny to me how whenever there is an issue of political importance it coincides with the release of attention grabbing fodder.
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11/22/2014 6:33am
This thread is like school on Sunday...No Class.

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Sunhouse wrote:
they usually have something to gain, 5 min of fame, revenge for him being a douche or unfaithful, money etc. But the strangest thing is, they...
they usually have something to gain, 5 min of fame, revenge for him being a douche or unfaithful, money etc.

But the strangest thing is, they often don´t need to gain anything. There are plenty of examples where "victims" have lied for no apparent reason at all.

However, bringing this stuff up now, when it is too late, and with their full name in the public - give me a break!
There are 12 people (Ladies) so far and the number is growing. Obviously We have no idea but I highly doubt 12 people would come forward at this point.

Cosby is 77 and probably very wealthy, aside from causing him emotional problems I don't think this will ruin his life, more like just tarnish his pompous reputation.

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