China just threatened Pelosi/Biden

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IMO, China's long standing belief has been an unarmed invasion of America. And so far their reaches into this country are vast and calculated. If there were to be any type of Chinese retaliation for this Pelosi junket, it will be in the form of commerce, lobbying and communication ( hacking ), and all on their time table.

So while the dem-wits are standing around patting themselves on the back for landing this old hag on some island for a meaningless stopover, and celebrating a inconsequential conquest. The Chinese continue to lay their inroads into destroying this country without firing a single shot.
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China and Russia are playing Chess, while we are playing Tic Tac Toe. Russia called our bluff on Ukraine and invaded. We are dumping Billions of dollars into a war to a country that isn't an American ally. China is threatening us over a country, all the while they are buying up millions of acres of land in the American Heartland. They control our food production, they control us. I'm sure they will attack Taiwan, and drag us into a Pacific Proxy war with no end in sight, just as Russia is doing with Ukraine, all while leaving the tax payer on the hook for the bill.
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The rest of the world, including China and Russia have watched us for the last decade destroy ourselves within with political infighting, division, our botched withdrawal in Afghanistan, and how bad we handled the pandemic. They watched and laughed, but most importantly, they studied and learned. They don't need to invade us to defeat us, they just need to grab the popcorn and watch us handle it ourselves. Just my opinion of course.
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oh christ,

Why am i suddenly afraid that pelosi is thinking about running for president is '24.

I wonder what stocks her husband and friends bought before she left...........

And China wasn't bluffing. They simply didn't take action because they suddenly realized they had already paid hunter and the "big guy' all the money they had promised them and would not gain any bookkeeping advantage by canceling any balance owed.
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8/2/2022 10:46am
China and Russia are playing Chess, while we are playing Tic Tac Toe. Russia called our bluff on Ukraine and invaded. We are dumping Billions of...
China and Russia are playing Chess, while we are playing Tic Tac Toe. Russia called our bluff on Ukraine and invaded. We are dumping Billions of dollars into a war to a country that isn't an American ally. China is threatening us over a country, all the while they are buying up millions of acres of land in the American Heartland. They control our food production, they control us. I'm sure they will attack Taiwan, and drag us into a Pacific Proxy war with no end in sight, just as Russia is doing with Ukraine, all while leaving the tax payer on the hook for the bill.
The war in Ukraine has been a miscalculation for Russia. In regards to damage to Russias economy, military and to it's prestige it's literally a dream scenario for it's enemies. 5 months in and it failed to take Kiev and instigate a change of government, it failed to cut Ukrainian access to the black sea and 5 months later hasn't even taken the Donbass yet.

Russia gambled and lost, and has been playing chess at the level of a 3 year old since February.


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I'm not trying to tell anyone which side to be on. We're Americans and we have that freedom. But, wishing death on the folks that hold high office, especially if it means war...is like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Dislike the office holder or their policies but hatred to the point of destroying the country just seems...well, un-American and honestly...treasonous. Everyone knows we hold presidential elections every 4 years. I reckon the founders set that time frame as a "self correcting" mechanism. Long enough for a good administration to get stuff done but short enough to keep a turd from sinking the ship.

I know I'm just being ignorant by trying to quell people's deep seated hates and beliefs...but I believe that shit about a "house divided".Blush
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plowboy wrote:
I'm not trying to tell anyone which side to be on. We're Americans and we have that freedom. But, wishing death on the folks that hold...
I'm not trying to tell anyone which side to be on. We're Americans and we have that freedom. But, wishing death on the folks that hold high office, especially if it means war...is like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Dislike the office holder or their policies but hatred to the point of destroying the country just seems...well, un-American and honestly...treasonous. Everyone knows we hold presidential elections every 4 years. I reckon the founders set that time frame as a "self correcting" mechanism. Long enough for a good administration to get stuff done but short enough to keep a turd from sinking the ship.

I know I'm just being ignorant by trying to quell people's deep seated hates and beliefs...but I believe that shit about a "house divided".Blush
Truth's to what you posted.
Divide & Conquer comes to mind.
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8/2/2022 1:13pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2022 1:14pm
colintrax wrote:
It's not an invasion when the country you're flying to welcomes you...

Also, move to China you commie cock sucker.
I think we need to bring back calling people Commies when they are in bed with people like Putin and Xi. I'm surprised more people on this forum don't remember the USSR or when calling someone a commie was the ultimate insult.

Instead it seems like being a "socialist" is the new insult and being a commie is okay. I wonder what Red from That 70's show would say.
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8/2/2022 1:41pm
colintrax wrote:
It's not an invasion when the country you're flying to welcomes you...

Also, move to China you commie cock sucker.
kNewc wrote:
I think we need to bring back calling people Commies when they are in bed with people like Putin and Xi. I'm surprised more people on...
I think we need to bring back calling people Commies when they are in bed with people like Putin and Xi. I'm surprised more people on this forum don't remember the USSR or when calling someone a commie was the ultimate insult.

Instead it seems like being a "socialist" is the new insult and being a commie is okay. I wonder what Red from That 70's show would say.
“I’m giving you a proctological education. It’s called my foot up your ass!” - Red Foreman.
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8/2/2022 2:31pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2022 2:33pm
moto162 wrote:
??? China who openly states that tiawan is theirs and that if she fly in with or without fighter jets it will be considered an invasion...
??? China who openly states that tiawan is theirs and that if she fly in with or without fighter jets it will be considered an invasion of China and they will if need be be shot down. I agree that tiawan is in our opinion sovereign but China doesn't. Don't get where the commie comment comes from.
colintrax wrote:
You're implying China owns Taiwan. Stating so pushes the Chinese agenda. And trying to shit on our president in the process? Biden sucks but let's remember...
You're implying China owns Taiwan.

Stating so pushes the Chinese agenda. And trying to shit on our president in the process? Biden sucks but let's remember how good we have it.
Wow , unbelievable ! There is people like that riding Moto 👎
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8/2/2022 4:13pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2022 4:13pm
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Wow , unbelievable ! There is people like that riding Moto 👎
Some folks just like to get higher than Hunter Biden I guess. Smile
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plowboy wrote:
I'm not trying to tell anyone which side to be on. We're Americans and we have that freedom. But, wishing death on the folks that hold...
I'm not trying to tell anyone which side to be on. We're Americans and we have that freedom. But, wishing death on the folks that hold high office, especially if it means war...is like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Dislike the office holder or their policies but hatred to the point of destroying the country just seems...well, un-American and honestly...treasonous. Everyone knows we hold presidential elections every 4 years. I reckon the founders set that time frame as a "self correcting" mechanism. Long enough for a good administration to get stuff done but short enough to keep a turd from sinking the ship.

I know I'm just being ignorant by trying to quell people's deep seated hates and beliefs...but I believe that shit about a "house divided".Blush
Global nuclear war or Pelosi blown to bits? 🧐
Can I get back to you in the morning, I’m gonna need to sleep on this one
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Why are the twitter bots always lockdown loving libtards? Can we get some libertarian free speech oriented bots out there?
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Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may jerk off too? We're talking about Russia and Chinese governments here. Both of their communist, brain-washed authoritarian tyrannical governments would LOVE to shit down our mothers throat, send the rest of us to a penal colony for life and obliterate our entire system of government.

But no, lets pretend to be "patriots" and shit on our own country while Russia and China laugh their asses off on how effective their cyber/social smokescreen attacks have worked on ALL OF US the past 10 years. We are eating our own while they collectively eat flesh-seasoned popcorn and jerk off to authoritarian doctrine watching American citizens become enemies of each other, coincidentally/idiotically helping their exact agenda. It's so g*darn obvious! Take the blinders off and wake up. How anyone can wave the American flag and be so prideful of this country yet shit on the very foundation of democracy to the betterment of our biggest enemies who want us to implode is beyond my comprehension. You don't like Pelosi? Cool. But she's a representative of America and no matter what side of the isle you may be on, wishing her harm or embarrassment is beyond un-patriotic. China would love to have you in their party.

Trump wrote love letters to Kim Jung and bowed to him, but I never wished him to be hurt by those zombies and only hoped that things might get better because of his visit. It was bold, and dumb, but still I wished for the best. Thank God, the internet wasn't around when FDR was working behind the scenes to make sure Hitler and Hirohito wouldn't end up dominating the world. They would have shit on him and let those maniacs get their way.
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IanMac138 wrote:
Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may...
Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may jerk off too? We're talking about Russia and Chinese governments here. Both of their communist, brain-washed authoritarian tyrannical governments would LOVE to shit down our mothers throat, send the rest of us to a penal colony for life and obliterate our entire system of government.

But no, lets pretend to be "patriots" and shit on our own country while Russia and China laugh their asses off on how effective their cyber/social smokescreen attacks have worked on ALL OF US the past 10 years. We are eating our own while they collectively eat flesh-seasoned popcorn and jerk off to authoritarian doctrine watching American citizens become enemies of each other, coincidentally/idiotically helping their exact agenda. It's so g*darn obvious! Take the blinders off and wake up. How anyone can wave the American flag and be so prideful of this country yet shit on the very foundation of democracy to the betterment of our biggest enemies who want us to implode is beyond my comprehension. You don't like Pelosi? Cool. But she's a representative of America and no matter what side of the isle you may be on, wishing her harm or embarrassment is beyond un-patriotic. China would love to have you in their party.

Trump wrote love letters to Kim Jung and bowed to him, but I never wished him to be hurt by those zombies and only hoped that things might get better because of his visit. It was bold, and dumb, but still I wished for the best. Thank God, the internet wasn't around when FDR was working behind the scenes to make sure Hitler and Hirohito wouldn't end up dominating the world. They would have shit on him and let those maniacs get their way.
Shut up😂🤦‍♂️
You need to up your ADHD dosage.
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8/3/2022 4:41am
IanMac138 wrote:
Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may...
Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may jerk off too? We're talking about Russia and Chinese governments here. Both of their communist, brain-washed authoritarian tyrannical governments would LOVE to shit down our mothers throat, send the rest of us to a penal colony for life and obliterate our entire system of government.

But no, lets pretend to be "patriots" and shit on our own country while Russia and China laugh their asses off on how effective their cyber/social smokescreen attacks have worked on ALL OF US the past 10 years. We are eating our own while they collectively eat flesh-seasoned popcorn and jerk off to authoritarian doctrine watching American citizens become enemies of each other, coincidentally/idiotically helping their exact agenda. It's so g*darn obvious! Take the blinders off and wake up. How anyone can wave the American flag and be so prideful of this country yet shit on the very foundation of democracy to the betterment of our biggest enemies who want us to implode is beyond my comprehension. You don't like Pelosi? Cool. But she's a representative of America and no matter what side of the isle you may be on, wishing her harm or embarrassment is beyond un-patriotic. China would love to have you in their party.

Trump wrote love letters to Kim Jung and bowed to him, but I never wished him to be hurt by those zombies and only hoped that things might get better because of his visit. It was bold, and dumb, but still I wished for the best. Thank God, the internet wasn't around when FDR was working behind the scenes to make sure Hitler and Hirohito wouldn't end up dominating the world. They would have shit on him and let those maniacs get their way.
I just wish she would take her hundreds of millions of dollars and go retire. She's like 84 years old
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Shut up😂🤦‍♂️
You need to up your ADHD dosage.
You may not like the message, but one thing is true: the United States ripping itself apart plays directly into China’s long-term plans. They won’t need to fire a shot or engage in cyber espionage; we’ll self-destruct under the weight of our own obsession with “winning” our side of the argument.

There’s little positivity in today’s dialogue. Public debates, exemplified by some posts on this site, are riddled with hateful comments. What purpose does that serve? Does venting really accomplish anything? Could we not have a discourse focused on making meaningful changes, versus railing against those with opposing views? I understand a person’s dislike of Pelosi’s political stance; subversively calling for her death has little value, and would serve to do the opposite of what they think would be accomplished.

My parents are in their 80’s and will likely go to their graves ranting against the left and the mainstream media. I cannot imagine a worse way to spend a person’s golden years, when there are so many things to be thankful for. Part of that is aging, but if they would simply turn off their TV and stay off social media, they would discover that 99% of the stuff they hate has little to no bearing on their lives. Unless they let it.
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If that was Trump the media would have nothing but stories about him trying to start WW3 . Instead we get someone who is as anti freedom as you'll ever see being called a defender of freedom.
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If that was Trump the media would have nothing but stories about him trying to start WW3 . Instead we get someone who is as anti...
If that was Trump the media would have nothing but stories about him trying to start WW3 . Instead we get someone who is as anti freedom as you'll ever see being called a defender of freedom.
“As anti-freedom as you’ll ever see”. Please expand your thoughts around that concept, comparing and contrasting Pelosi’s actions and their net affect on the citizens of New York State.
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LoudLove wrote:
“As anti-freedom as you’ll ever see”. Please expand your thoughts around that concept, comparing and contrasting Pelosi’s actions and their net affect on the citizens of...
“As anti-freedom as you’ll ever see”. Please expand your thoughts around that concept, comparing and contrasting Pelosi’s actions and their net affect on the citizens of New York State.
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Meanwhile, CVN 76 is cruising the straights with a slightly “better than the usual” carrier strike group and they’re just sailing around & monitoring China’s little tantrum. Which is nice! As the Chinese push into Taiwan’s airspace and “12 mile maritime boundary”…and we’ve certainly got some really good underwater and littoral assets working on operational drills against China’s man made islands.

Gee…I wonder…is there ANOTHER fleet/strike group near by? Other countries participating in a group joint exercise? Any B1s, B2s and other long range assets in the neighborhood? I wonder, what’s flying out of Guam and Japan?

Yup! Suck it China. Keep flying that crap & keep sailing that shit in and thru Taiwanese air and waters and we’ll keep monitoring all your comm’s, observing all your methods…& we’ll be there when you step over that line.

They claim to have sooooo many “so-called” 5th Gen a/c that aren’t (on exit they are doomed/we can see them “like an airborne brick”).
They’ve got “new ships” that’re diesel.
They’re flexing because they have to…for the home crowd.

Meanwhile, we take note of their operational capability…we take “lots of notes”…& show very little of our capacity and capability.

China can continue to suck it. If they push “play”? It’s on. Most of their assets will be removed remotely…from far, far away. Well, that is IF Joe doesn’t F it up…
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so whats the consensus on this exchange? does America support Taiwan or not?


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8/3/2022 10:08am
IanMac138 wrote:
Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may...
Can any American on this board stop shitting on our ELECTED representatives who hold their office via a DEMOCRATIC process, regardless of what party we may jerk off too? We're talking about Russia and Chinese governments here. Both of their communist, brain-washed authoritarian tyrannical governments would LOVE to shit down our mothers throat, send the rest of us to a penal colony for life and obliterate our entire system of government.

But no, lets pretend to be "patriots" and shit on our own country while Russia and China laugh their asses off on how effective their cyber/social smokescreen attacks have worked on ALL OF US the past 10 years. We are eating our own while they collectively eat flesh-seasoned popcorn and jerk off to authoritarian doctrine watching American citizens become enemies of each other, coincidentally/idiotically helping their exact agenda. It's so g*darn obvious! Take the blinders off and wake up. How anyone can wave the American flag and be so prideful of this country yet shit on the very foundation of democracy to the betterment of our biggest enemies who want us to implode is beyond my comprehension. You don't like Pelosi? Cool. But she's a representative of America and no matter what side of the isle you may be on, wishing her harm or embarrassment is beyond un-patriotic. China would love to have you in their party.

Trump wrote love letters to Kim Jung and bowed to him, but I never wished him to be hurt by those zombies and only hoped that things might get better because of his visit. It was bold, and dumb, but still I wished for the best. Thank God, the internet wasn't around when FDR was working behind the scenes to make sure Hitler and Hirohito wouldn't end up dominating the world. They would have shit on him and let those maniacs get their way.
I just wish she would take her hundreds of millions of dollars and go retire. She's like 84 years old
And drunk
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8/3/2022 10:11am
Hmmm…

I guess Pelosi met with a chip manufacturer while she was there.

I’m sure it had nothing to do with the bill they just passed or the investments ol’ Paul had been making.
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8/3/2022 10:27am
Gworm wrote:
Hmmm… I guess Pelosi met with a chip manufacturer while she was there. I’m sure it had nothing to do with the bill they just passed...
Hmmm…

I guess Pelosi met with a chip manufacturer while she was there.

I’m sure it had nothing to do with the bill they just passed or the investments ol’ Paul had been making.
So can we finally get those &!?$ chips manufactured again? Sick of this crap. I need a new vehicle.
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8/3/2022 11:39am
swordfish wrote:
Shut up😂🤦‍♂️
You need to up your ADHD dosage.
LoudLove wrote:
You may not like the message, but one thing is true: the United States ripping itself apart plays directly into China’s long-term plans. They won’t need...
You may not like the message, but one thing is true: the United States ripping itself apart plays directly into China’s long-term plans. They won’t need to fire a shot or engage in cyber espionage; we’ll self-destruct under the weight of our own obsession with “winning” our side of the argument.

There’s little positivity in today’s dialogue. Public debates, exemplified by some posts on this site, are riddled with hateful comments. What purpose does that serve? Does venting really accomplish anything? Could we not have a discourse focused on making meaningful changes, versus railing against those with opposing views? I understand a person’s dislike of Pelosi’s political stance; subversively calling for her death has little value, and would serve to do the opposite of what they think would be accomplished.

My parents are in their 80’s and will likely go to their graves ranting against the left and the mainstream media. I cannot imagine a worse way to spend a person’s golden years, when there are so many things to be thankful for. Part of that is aging, but if they would simply turn off their TV and stay off social media, they would discover that 99% of the stuff they hate has little to no bearing on their lives. Unless they let it.
Although your message is a little more succinct than the rantings of IanMac, this unity missive you both claim to be dissolving and dividing this country is now only being recognized? And ever since this message board was opened up to more equal partisan representation, it now also bears some of the responsibility of this country's disunion too?

What it seems is your finally beginning to realize the difference between one administration that spent it's time building, and another administration spending its time tearing it down. There were policy's in place to help keep China and it's advancement vison in check. But not so much anymore. The difference in this country, the difference other country's from just 18 months ago is what should be alarming you, not public discourse.
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I admit when I saw on Twitter that Pelosi was in fact going I was pumped
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8/3/2022 5:24pm
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I admit when I saw on Twitter that Pelosi was in fact going I was pumped
Why would the CCP take out Pelosi though? She's pretty much the poster child for the rot in American culture/politics.

She's doing important work as far as the Chinese communists are concerned.
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8/3/2022 5:54pm
ohhellnah wrote:
I admit when I saw on Twitter that Pelosi was in fact going I was pumped
jetbull721 wrote:
Why would the CCP take out Pelosi though? She's pretty much the poster child for the rot in American culture/politics. She's doing important work as far...
Why would the CCP take out Pelosi though? She's pretty much the poster child for the rot in American culture/politics.

She's doing important work as far as the Chinese communists are concerned.
The Chi-Com's would not take out Nancy bc for one it's a highly confrontational move and two she represents the status quo .
IE, the fleecing of America by China.
For all the bluster over her visit it's largely symbolic rhetoric.
They have to say something and talk tough.
But again she is no threat economically and certainly not going to hold them to task for their various forms of economic war fare.
Sadly no "current" US politicians show much back bone to do so.
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