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OK guys, does anybody know CA law in and out regarding tenants? I have a nightmare situation that I need to remedy:
My wife's parents moved in with us in June of 2015 to "get on their feet." They have since squatted in the home, using up the electricity and heat/AC and have not yet gotten in gear. Father in-law is on permanent disability and gets sick from time to time, which is a great, convenient excuse for my mother in-law to not get a job. She's a CMA (Certified Medical Assistant,) which means she can find work all over the place, yet she swears up and down that she is looking and hasn't been able to get hired. (As far as I'm concerned, she should go get a job flipping burgers if she cannot find medical office work, but apparently that's none of my business...)
They think they are meeting their expenses by paying us $100 per month (most months, that is.) In reality, that probably doesn't cover the electricicy and water they use, not to mention the paper towels, laundry soap, etc.
My wife has anxiety issues that stem from her upbringing, and now is suffering massive panic attacks and stress thanks to being in the same house with her parents. They were overbearing, verbally abusive when she was a kid and even now they treat her like she is their little girl. They try to run her life and keep looking into our private matters as if it's their business. To make matters even worse, they make baseless accusations against her, my kids and me - things like, "You stole our VCR tapes from the boxes in the garage," or "My internet connection doesn't work. You must have turned it off." (I want their internet to work, so mom can keep looking for jobs!) The father in-law has even accused me of hacking into his computer so the login doesn't work, as if I had those skills or even gave one dead rat's ass about his computer. It's exhausting.
We have told them on several occasions that it's time to get out. We've even given them dates to be gone, which have passed by without any action. My Father in-law and I have even gotten in a few yelling matches wherein he has tried to bait me into fighting him (I am far too intelligent to do that.) It is clear they do not intend to ever take care of themselves, and instead plan to just cruise along in our home until they die (her dad thinks he's dying now, and has felt that way for about 3-4 years, since he lacks the intelligence to understand what his doctors are saying to him. So does her mom, who, like I said is a CMA. Scary, right???)
Anyway, we have told them it is our plan to move when our lease is up in April, and we need them out by March 1st so we can clean the carpets, fix a few things in their room, etc. I fully expect that day will come and go without them so much as trying to find another hapless victim to mooch from, so my question is this: HOW DO I GET THESE FUCKERS OUT OF MY HOUSE????
My understanding of CA law is that since they get their mail at the address and pay "rent," then I am their landlord and they are my subtenant. (They are not on the lease.)
Should I raise their "rent" to $1,000 and then give them a 3-day pay or quit notice when they can't come up with the money?
Should I follow through and just move out? Let the property owner deal with them? (Bullshit, if so.)
Should I call the property manager and ask his advice, knowing that I am breaking the terms of my lease by allowing them to stay?
My wife's parents moved in with us in June of 2015 to "get on their feet." They have since squatted in the home, using up the electricity and heat/AC and have not yet gotten in gear. Father in-law is on permanent disability and gets sick from time to time, which is a great, convenient excuse for my mother in-law to not get a job. She's a CMA (Certified Medical Assistant,) which means she can find work all over the place, yet she swears up and down that she is looking and hasn't been able to get hired. (As far as I'm concerned, she should go get a job flipping burgers if she cannot find medical office work, but apparently that's none of my business...)
They think they are meeting their expenses by paying us $100 per month (most months, that is.) In reality, that probably doesn't cover the electricicy and water they use, not to mention the paper towels, laundry soap, etc.
My wife has anxiety issues that stem from her upbringing, and now is suffering massive panic attacks and stress thanks to being in the same house with her parents. They were overbearing, verbally abusive when she was a kid and even now they treat her like she is their little girl. They try to run her life and keep looking into our private matters as if it's their business. To make matters even worse, they make baseless accusations against her, my kids and me - things like, "You stole our VCR tapes from the boxes in the garage," or "My internet connection doesn't work. You must have turned it off." (I want their internet to work, so mom can keep looking for jobs!) The father in-law has even accused me of hacking into his computer so the login doesn't work, as if I had those skills or even gave one dead rat's ass about his computer. It's exhausting.
We have told them on several occasions that it's time to get out. We've even given them dates to be gone, which have passed by without any action. My Father in-law and I have even gotten in a few yelling matches wherein he has tried to bait me into fighting him (I am far too intelligent to do that.) It is clear they do not intend to ever take care of themselves, and instead plan to just cruise along in our home until they die (her dad thinks he's dying now, and has felt that way for about 3-4 years, since he lacks the intelligence to understand what his doctors are saying to him. So does her mom, who, like I said is a CMA. Scary, right???)
Anyway, we have told them it is our plan to move when our lease is up in April, and we need them out by March 1st so we can clean the carpets, fix a few things in their room, etc. I fully expect that day will come and go without them so much as trying to find another hapless victim to mooch from, so my question is this: HOW DO I GET THESE FUCKERS OUT OF MY HOUSE????
My understanding of CA law is that since they get their mail at the address and pay "rent," then I am their landlord and they are my subtenant. (They are not on the lease.)
Should I raise their "rent" to $1,000 and then give them a 3-day pay or quit notice when they can't come up with the money?
Should I follow through and just move out? Let the property owner deal with them? (Bullshit, if so.)
Should I call the property manager and ask his advice, knowing that I am breaking the terms of my lease by allowing them to stay?
I can relate to the deadbeat in law thing. Fortunately mine never moved in. My MIL has passed, but not my FIL yet.
I'm a pretty mild-mannered, easy going guy but when my FIL passes I will probably go on a 7 day drinking binge just so I can piss on his grave all day, every day for at least a week straight.
Good luck.
https://legalbeagle.com/8609602-evict-relative-california.html
A lawyer might be a good idea.
The Shop
Good luck bro.
Most likely cheaper than lawyers and attorneys and will avoid the battle...
If you are sub leasing this to your parents then you are probably already breaking your lease and may get evicted if you tell your landlord..... bad for you again.......
What I would do If I were you (I am a professional property manager where i live), is either pay them whatever it takes to get them out of your house.....or give them enough money to go and get their own rental.....In California your hands are really tied as long as they reside in the house.
In My experience, a handful of cash in exchange for all keys is the cheapest and best way to do this...... but you gotta be able to swallow your pride and hand a total deadbeat a lot more money than he or she will ever be worth to you
That being said......California is an entirely different animal with property law so you absolutely need to talk to an attorney...( you aint gonna like what he says either)....
Good luck man......I go through this shit every day with my job........
It seems to me they know the game so you might want to pay an attorney a few hundred bucks to review the possible outcome of each chess move. That's some crazy shit right there, I wish you the best. Let us know when you get that scum out of your life.
Watch "Dirty John" on Netflix....sounds like you have a couple "Dirty Johns" living with you.
Pit Row
I would consider helping them get into a new place. Under their name. And pre-pay 3-6 months of their rent as part of the plan. This is what it might take to get it off your back and make it someone else’s problem.
Need to figure out how to get them into a place that’s not in your name.
These landlords supply me with many cheap, don't wanter rentals all the time to buy because they burn out and don't ever want to look at a tenant or a lease agreement again....
If she wants a life with you away from them...there are ways to make it happen without lawyers and such. You said your lease was almost up. Rent/buy your new place. Pony up the money for her to to take her parents to Vegas for the weekend. Hire movers to box their stuff and put it in a storage unit. Have them move your stuff to your new place. Pay for a week at a hotel and have the wife drop them off there and hand them the key to the storage unit. Don't look back.
I'm probably getting a lawyer. And probably moving.
But hey, small price to pay to pay to get your life back.
Then again, if the owner likes you and your wife, good rent, property kept in good shape, maybe he would force them out legally.
And don't cow tail to the in laws. They start throwing blame, be honest. If it wasn't for them and their grifter ways, there would be no problem.
They don't give a crap about u guys, they get nasty,
get nasty right back.
Good luck guy.
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