Along the lines of "explain this"

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1/5/2018 10:28pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2018 10:58pm
Rhino wrote:
Also the cops will love it. The amount of DUI goes up dramatically. Taxes plus tickets =$$$$$ I know a cop who has more than ten...
Also the cops will love it. The amount of DUI goes up dramatically.

Taxes plus tickets =$$$$$ I know a cop who has more than ten times his amount of DUI arrests in Vegas than he ever had before.
Every pullover now has 2-4 squad cars......1 with a dog
If you buy a used car from a stoner, that dog is gonna send you to jail.

Even if you're sober.....good luck. The first thing cops ask now is "Are you high" Not "do you know why I pulled you over?"


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I dont know if its a good idea to draw conclusions about the rest of America based on observations from Las Vegas.
Being high and driving is the same as being drunk. Not sure how they measure how high you are. When we went to the Monster Cup, there were signs around saying you cant smoke in public, cant smoke in casinos etc also.

She worries that the legalization of pot has increased the number of impaired drivers on valley roads. About half of her total DUI arrests in her four-year career have occurred this year.
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Rhino wrote:
Also the cops will love it. The amount of DUI goes up dramatically. Taxes plus tickets =$$$$$ I know a cop who has more than ten...
Also the cops will love it. The amount of DUI goes up dramatically.

Taxes plus tickets =$$$$$ I know a cop who has more than ten times his amount of DUI arrests in Vegas than he ever had before.
Every pullover now has 2-4 squad cars......1 with a dog
If you buy a used car from a stoner, that dog is gonna send you to jail.

Even if you're sober.....good luck. The first thing cops ask now is "Are you high" Not "do you know why I pulled you over?"


early wrote:
I dont know if its a good idea to draw conclusions about the rest of America based on observations from Las Vegas.
Rhino wrote:
Being high and driving is the same as being drunk. Not sure how they measure how high you are. When we went to the Monster Cup...
Being high and driving is the same as being drunk. Not sure how they measure how high you are. When we went to the Monster Cup, there were signs around saying you cant smoke in public, cant smoke in casinos etc also.

She worries that the legalization of pot has increased the number of impaired drivers on valley roads. About half of her total DUI arrests in her four-year career have occurred this year.
So even a cop who is prioritizing DUI arrests didn't have their DUI arrests increase by 10X......

Shows what a liar you are, Pauly G........
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Money. The war on drugs is big business, huge. You legalize it and suddenly it becomes more difficult to justify current, or increased, funding levels.

They might legalize it if they can figure out a way to make more money off it.
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So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce
and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks that were producing and
distributing dominated the legal market for alcohol?
Was watching a show this week (the profit) that said growing weed is now only a misdemeanor.
Why in the world would anybody pay the fees to be a legal grower?
There's a head scratcher.

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Ebs wrote:
Money. The war on drugs is big business, huge. You legalize it and suddenly it becomes more difficult to justify current, or increased, funding levels. They...
Money. The war on drugs is big business, huge. You legalize it and suddenly it becomes more difficult to justify current, or increased, funding levels.

They might legalize it if they can figure out a way to make more money off it.
So drug overdose deaths last year killed more people than breast cancer.
You think we should leave it unchecked? In many cases I think we need
less government but when you have a friend who loses a kid to drugs
and how it devastates all those around, you're quite thankful for the
"war on drugs". A kid I know lost 3 friends this last year, drug overdose,
being drunk and hit by a train, and suicide (I suspect drugs were involved there also)
the really sad one was the drug overdose. The kid could have been saved but
the other druggies instead of getting him help threw his body out the front window
to between the house and the bushes. The next morning a neighbor walking their
dog saw the kid laying there but it was too late by then.
TM
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ToolMaker wrote:
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks...
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce
and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks that were producing and
distributing dominated the legal market for alcohol?
Was watching a show this week (the profit) that said growing weed is now only a misdemeanor.
Why in the world would anybody pay the fees to be a legal grower?
There's a head scratcher.
All the regulations keep things on the up and up.

Here are my two favorite growers in Washington state. Treehawk is a young guy that saved his family farm by producing high quality organically cultivated cannabis.

http://treehawkfarms.com/

http://burnwellco.com/

There isn't much reason to buy black market, especially from Mexico. It's garbage weed compared to what these great businesses produce.
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1/6/2018 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 1/6/2018 12:06pm
I'm saying weed makes up a substantial portion of 'the war on drugs'. If you legalize it, one would expect funding to be cut by a proportional amount. Which is bad if that is your business.
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ToolMaker wrote:
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks...
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce
and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks that were producing and
distributing dominated the legal market for alcohol?
Was watching a show this week (the profit) that said growing weed is now only a misdemeanor.
Why in the world would anybody pay the fees to be a legal grower?
There's a head scratcher.
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc.

The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume prefer the kind bud sold by the growers over the shit the cartels import by the pounds.

Once weed is universally accepted and legal I think either beer companies or the cigarette companies will grow or buy their way into the weed market. The cartels are not going to strike a deal with 7-11 to sell packs of joints. But I could see a legitimate beer or cigarette company doing that.

Just my guess.
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Canada is legalizing marijuana on a national scale this year around July I believe. Wouldn't be surprised if this starts a trend in more states to legalize as well..... Especially northern states in central and eastern USA, just a thought?
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ToolMaker wrote:
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks...
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce
and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks that were producing and
distributing dominated the legal market for alcohol?
Was watching a show this week (the profit) that said growing weed is now only a misdemeanor.
Why in the world would anybody pay the fees to be a legal grower?
There's a head scratcher.
TXDirt wrote:
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc. The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume...
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc.

The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume prefer the kind bud sold by the growers over the shit the cartels import by the pounds.

Once weed is universally accepted and legal I think either beer companies or the cigarette companies will grow or buy their way into the weed market. The cartels are not going to strike a deal with 7-11 to sell packs of joints. But I could see a legitimate beer or cigarette company doing that.

Just my guess.
My thought was that the cartel would produce and distribute legally. They already have the funds to
purchase established farms. They don't need to hide anymore. They know the market, now it's
just a matter of getting into the hands of the masses.
On the show I watched, they said CA would be the largest producer of pot. I just don't see
the cartel as saying "oh well, we had a good run" You realize all that cash they (the cartel)
made and laundered they put into real businesses. I just don't see them as letting their
cash cow go away. It must be a hell of a lot cheaper to produce legally than to go to war with the
competition shooting everybody.
TM
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1/6/2018 2:56pm
ToolMaker wrote:
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks...
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce
and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks that were producing and
distributing dominated the legal market for alcohol?
Was watching a show this week (the profit) that said growing weed is now only a misdemeanor.
Why in the world would anybody pay the fees to be a legal grower?
There's a head scratcher.
TXDirt wrote:
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc. The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume...
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc.

The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume prefer the kind bud sold by the growers over the shit the cartels import by the pounds.

Once weed is universally accepted and legal I think either beer companies or the cigarette companies will grow or buy their way into the weed market. The cartels are not going to strike a deal with 7-11 to sell packs of joints. But I could see a legitimate beer or cigarette company doing that.

Just my guess.
ToolMaker wrote:
My thought was that the cartel would produce and distribute legally. They already have the funds to purchase established farms. They don't need to hide anymore...
My thought was that the cartel would produce and distribute legally. They already have the funds to
purchase established farms. They don't need to hide anymore. They know the market, now it's
just a matter of getting into the hands of the masses.
On the show I watched, they said CA would be the largest producer of pot. I just don't see
the cartel as saying "oh well, we had a good run" You realize all that cash they (the cartel)
made and laundered they put into real businesses. I just don't see them as letting their
cash cow go away. It must be a hell of a lot cheaper to produce legally than to go to war with the
competition shooting everybody.
TM
It is very regulated. It is very difficult to get a license. I haven't seen anything but business opportunists who know little to nothing about cannabis or hippie weed smokers that approach it like the finest craft beer breweries. Legalization pretty much eliminates the criminal element.

https://lcb.wa.gov/mjlicense/criminal_history_check

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ToolMaker wrote:
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks...
So what's to stop the cartels from legally dominating the weed market? They already produce
and distribute. Isn't that what happened after prohibition, all the folks that were producing and
distributing dominated the legal market for alcohol?
Was watching a show this week (the profit) that said growing weed is now only a misdemeanor.
Why in the world would anybody pay the fees to be a legal grower?
There's a head scratcher.
TXDirt wrote:
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc. The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume...
To use your example, there are already legal alcohol cartels basically. Coors, InBev, Heineken, etc.

The cartels mostly import shit weed. Most legal smokers I assume prefer the kind bud sold by the growers over the shit the cartels import by the pounds.

Once weed is universally accepted and legal I think either beer companies or the cigarette companies will grow or buy their way into the weed market. The cartels are not going to strike a deal with 7-11 to sell packs of joints. But I could see a legitimate beer or cigarette company doing that.

Just my guess.
ToolMaker wrote:
My thought was that the cartel would produce and distribute legally. They already have the funds to purchase established farms. They don't need to hide anymore...
My thought was that the cartel would produce and distribute legally. They already have the funds to
purchase established farms. They don't need to hide anymore. They know the market, now it's
just a matter of getting into the hands of the masses.
On the show I watched, they said CA would be the largest producer of pot. I just don't see
the cartel as saying "oh well, we had a good run" You realize all that cash they (the cartel)
made and laundered they put into real businesses. I just don't see them as letting their
cash cow go away. It must be a hell of a lot cheaper to produce legally than to go to war with the
competition shooting everybody.
TM
Why don’t they produce alcohol and distribute legal? That’s a business bigger then marijuana.

The cigarette makers have started to move in on the E-cig market already. Seems logical they might move in on the weed market at some point. Swap out tobacco fields for marijuana fields. Seems like a good fit.

A lot of the cartels traffic in a lot more then weed. I think it may be a challenge for them to somehow become legitimate marijuana dealers, while behind the scenes traffic in other narcotics.

I think that’s why if you atleast legalize weed you eliminate that that revenue stream. Doesn’t stop the major cartels because that’s just one product of their business.
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The best part is watching all the fat diabetic white trash welfare fucks pushing 4 kids in strollers while passing a joint between the fat disgusting wife, and the white trash tattooed skinny as fuck meth head dad.

And they wonder why they are broke, walking down the sidewalk, no job losers. LOL

Wont last long because the cops love writing citations for smoking in public now too.

The shame is, the kids have no future in life. Fucked from the get go.
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The cartels would prefer to be legit businesses! Just like the mob moved into legit businesses. Casinos, gambling, garbage
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kkawboy14 wrote:
The cartels would prefer to be legit businesses! Just like the mob moved into legit businesses. Casinos, gambling, garbage
I think that you mean that they like the "shield" of legit business to help launder the cash from illicit business.........

Casinos are a great example. Nearly every gambler you talk to either won big, won a little bit, or just about broke even yet the casinos keep building, expanding, and spending money like it grows on trees. All that without anyone ever really losing a ton of money........

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APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you mean that they like the "shield" of legit business to help launder the cash from illicit business......... Casinos are a great example...
I think that you mean that they like the "shield" of legit business to help launder the cash from illicit business.........

Casinos are a great example. Nearly every gambler you talk to either won big, won a little bit, or just about broke even yet the casinos keep building, expanding, and spending money like it grows on trees. All that without anyone ever really losing a ton of money........

Cool
Are the gamblers you know always telling you they won with their poker face on?
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kkawboy14 wrote:
The cartels would prefer to be legit businesses! Just like the mob moved into legit businesses. Casinos, gambling, garbage
That’s a good point. Maybe only difference with the exceptions of Casinos/gambling, some of those business are not regulated a whole lot.

It seems the states really want this extra income and to be legitimate it might be difficult for the cartels to operate how they are accustomed to.

But good point you brought up I didn’t really think about.

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