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You think it’s okay to slander someone, harm their reputation, tell lies about them?
That’s okay to you?
If your answer is yes, it’s okay to libel someone, please seek help.
The lies and slander Alex Jones was peddling had people calling the parents accusing them of being paid actors.
Imagine if you had buried your child, and people are calling you, harassing you, based on lies peddled from some guy down your street.
Alex Jones told lies about the parents and the dead children. Those parents incurred injury and anguish based on his lies.
What part of it don’t you understand?
Hitler never killed a single Jew, but was responsible for the deaths of millions.
Alex Jones did not call a parent and harass them, but he is responsible for thousands of harassed calls, letters, and accusations against these parents.
One person who sent a letter to Mark and Jackie Barden, whose 7-year-old son Daniel was killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, claimed to have urinated on the child’s grave. In another letter, someone threatened to dig up Daniel’s grave to prove he didn’t exist, his parents testified in Jones’ trial on Tuesday.
Do you understand or is it still unclear for you?
An other examples of slander in the last few years get you this worked up?
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Defamation is unlawful, and always has been. He broke the law. A jury that was carefully selected by both the families' and Jones' attorneys listened to all of the testimony and reviewed all of the evidence and in the end they were asked to determine monetary damages. They hammered him.
The jury wasn't thinking about OJ, or pharmaceutical companies, or CNN, they were thinking about what they just saw and heard and were obviously deeply moved.
Man up.
That’s all I’ve gotta say.
Man up.
Now we must all fear evil. But there is a greater evil in this world. The indifference of good men.
Quote from Boondock Saints.
I’ll always be passionate when wrongs are committed against dead children and their grieving parents.
Sounds like we know where you stand. Somewhere in the back….
Man up. Stand up.
My curiosity is not related to Jones guilt , more the penalty and it’s reasoning.
I did the same thing to Reese yesterday in his Biden Nuke thread and derailed it.
WD-40? Used engine oil? 90 Gear Oil mixed with acetone? No lube since they come greased from then factory?
It is part of our “freedom”.
Take anything you want to market, but if it starts hurting people, you get hit in the pocketbook until you quit.
That is how the McDonalds coffee case was so high.
McDonalds kept their cheap coffee at super-high temps to mask its crappy taste. People were getting BURNED by the coffee, burns much worse than would reasonably be incurred from spilling coffee.
Why? McDonalds kept burning people, paying a medical bill here and there, and make them sign a Non-disclosure Agreement.
So a civil court had to finally impose a monetary penalty big enough for McDonald’s to modify their behavior.
Alex Jones is now on the receiving end of the same theory.
He can say whatever he wants, but as it hurts and harms others, penalties in a civil suit will modify his behaviors.
Eventually.
A billion might do it.
Maybe two?
I will also say part of the evidence the jury considers in awarding damages is income. They did a pretty good job showing how much it moved the needle when Jones was discussing the Sandy Hook "hoax" on his show. If this was a kid in Mom's basement I don't think there would be $1 billion in damages, but there was evidence Jones made hundreds of millions defaming these families. $10,000 and community service probably wouldn't do anything to change his behavior, but a billion might?
The key point to this case is that Jones wasn't just saying this stuff, but profiting off it at the same time it was inflicting harm on the parents. That's a bit of the difference between this case and us calling each other names here on the board, and the OJ wrongful death case.
One of the key differences between the US and Europe is that Europe is set up with more Standards to guarantee safety where as the US relies more on civil litigation. This may not be co.pletely applicable to this case but it is important to keep in mind as others have pointed out with the McDonald's coffee case, etc.
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As for the USA going down the toilet, I read all about it on here in another thread directly written by Americans. So who am I to disagree?
The punishment isn’t to fix anything.
He fucked up and now has to pay the price. Why are you so caught up on “does it fix anything”.
Fixes what? And fixes it for who?
Do you have a time machine available to go back in time and unsend a letter about pissing on a dead child’s grave?
The whole premise of your question is ridiculous.
It doesn’t matter if this fixes anything. Maybe some parents are happy with the settlement. Maybe some are still upset. Who knows and who cares.
The point of a penalty or punishment isn’t to right a wrong.
It’s to hold someone accountable for their actions. Actions, have consequences.
Get it yet?
This man didn't just "speak his mind". He set an audience of millions against the very existence of an event that has shaped this country and the families surrounding it. These people WHO LOST CHILDREN had Jones' listeners openly engage them in public regularly, calling them crisis actors and saying their dead children were never real. And this is just one incident. Pretty much any public shooting he considered a "false flag". He has to be shocking to keep selling his water filters and taint wipes, which is the entire reason for his existence. He's not a news outlet, he's a salesman.
AJ let this go to trial and put his fate in the hands of a jury. Which means that he is just as stupid as he is slimy.
One difference is that the Sandy Hook parents are relatively anonymous and Alex Jones has no where near the reach or influence of mainstream media.
I have never seen heard , one of his shows and have no idea where to even access it.
If anything I think it just sends a message that media types can and will be held accountable for repeated slander without basis as acting with malice.
I think that may be a good thing; however, it could also result in all sorts of frivolous lawsuits of similar type.
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