A year after cataclysm, little change on Wall St.

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Edited Date/Time 1/20/2012 11:36pm
Some experts say bigger crisis looms unless systemic risks are addressed

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32809328/ns/business-the_new_york_times
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9/12/2009 8:08am
but I thought the messiah had this handled for the people Blink
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9/12/2009 9:31am
I wonder if we will get a refund?
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9/12/2009 9:55am
Let the gov't take the whole damn thing over. They'll run it right!
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9/12/2009 10:00am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2010 6:02am

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ProMed wrote:
Let the gov't take the whole damn thing over. They'll run it right!
YEP.Congress is doing a banged up job
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9/12/2009 10:14am
ProMed wrote:
Let the gov't take the whole damn thing over. They'll run it right!
Wall Street has been making their own rules and policing themselfs for quite some time now. How has that worked out?

Government doesn't have to run it Wall Street. The just have to put some restraints on the funny money practices that has put our economy in the shape it's in today.

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ZEDHED wrote:
This is why we should give Obama and his administration total control. Bigger Government is the answer.
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From OP source:

Kenneth C. Griffin, founder and chief executive of the Citadel Investment Group, a Chicago-based hedge fund that manages $13 billion, said that regulators and lawmakers needed to impose rules so failing banks could be shut, rather than allowed to operate indefinitely with taxpayer support.

“We’ve taken a lot of steps for the worse, and not for the better, in terms of the structural underpinnings of our capital markets,” Mr. Griffin said. “We have to change the rules and correct the fundamental flaws in the financial system.”

To be sure, Wall Street is not exactly as it was before the cataclysm of last year.

Then, a dozen or so big banks formed the top tier. Now Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are clearly the strongest, with Morgan Stanley struggling to compete. Bank of America and Citigroup are the weakest big banks, heavily reliant on government guarantees to survive.
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ProMed wrote:
This is why we should give Obama and his administration total control. Bigger Government is the answer.
Wall Street just set this country back generations and the only thing you can say is that same old sound bite of yours?

No wonder this country is so fucked right now.
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9/12/2009 10:34am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2009 10:35am
ProMed wrote:
Let the gov't take the whole damn thing over. They'll run it right!
As silly as that sounds, there are several people here who totally believe this ti be the "new" truth.

Whatever happen to the hippy liberals who used to shun "big brother"? Now days, "big brother" (government) is the only one they trust to be fair, honest, and trust worthy! Whatever.
9/12/2009 10:34am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2009 10:35am
And that in my opinion is exactly why Obama is failing! Nothing has changed.
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9/12/2009 10:43am
And that in my opinion is exactly why Obama is failing! Nothing has changed.
I have news for you all. Those wall street boys will not regulate themselves and their greed will dig us an even deeper hole that there will be no climbing out of.

That's ok, let's all worry about partisan bullshit while they all stuff their pockets again.
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ProMed wrote:
Let the gov't take the whole damn thing over. They'll run it right!
jimmie wrote:
As silly as that sounds, there are several people here who totally believe this ti be the "new" truth. Whatever happen to the hippy liberals who...
As silly as that sounds, there are several people here who totally believe this ti be the "new" truth.

Whatever happen to the hippy liberals who used to shun "big brother"? Now days, "big brother" (government) is the only one they trust to be fair, honest, and trust worthy! Whatever.
I pay for my government and I want them to do a better job at doing what is right for this country.

I can't believe people will bicker like little children while wall street continues to do as they please and take this country down the tubes.

Do your homework so you all understand what wall street finance did to put us into the shape we're in today, them think about it and see if you want to let them do it all again.
9/12/2009 10:54am
jmar wrote:
I have news for you all. Those wall street boys will not regulate themselves and their greed will dig us an even deeper hole that there...
I have news for you all. Those wall street boys will not regulate themselves and their greed will dig us an even deeper hole that there will be no climbing out of.

That's ok, let's all worry about partisan bullshit while they all stuff their pockets again.
Thats exactly what I was trying to say.
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Our government answers to wall st. Not the other way around.
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dougie wrote:
Our government answers to wall st. Not the other way around.
I agree but I want that changed. This country can't afford another meltdown.
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Some of you folks need to make up your minds.
You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and then get mad if they don't or don't get involved enough.

I swear some of you don't know what the fuck you want except to bitch
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flarider wrote:
Some of you folks need to make up your minds. You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and...
Some of you folks need to make up your minds.
You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and then get mad if they don't or don't get involved enough.

I swear some of you don't know what the fuck you want except to bitch
I think most people want change, but they are afraid that if the government gets involved they will only make it worse.
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flarider wrote:
Some of you folks need to make up your minds. You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and...
Some of you folks need to make up your minds.
You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and then get mad if they don't or don't get involved enough.

I swear some of you don't know what the fuck you want except to bitch
Me personally, I want the government to do their job. We already know that the banking industry will do if they go unchecked.
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Regulation is good, total control is bad IMO
9/12/2009 2:26pm
flarider wrote:
Some of you folks need to make up your minds. You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and...
Some of you folks need to make up your minds.
You get mad and bitch when the government even mentions getting involved in free enterprise and then get mad if they don't or don't get involved enough.

I swear some of you don't know what the fuck you want except to bitch
Yeah I don't want the government to go create a whole new wall street to compete. LMAO!
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9/12/2009 2:34pm
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over again. It's corrupt, it's stupid and it's powerful.
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jmar wrote:
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over...
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over again. It's corrupt, it's stupid and it's powerful.
include congress with that explanation
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ProMed wrote:
Let the gov't take the whole damn thing over. They'll run it right!
jimmie wrote:
As silly as that sounds, there are several people here who totally believe this ti be the "new" truth. Whatever happen to the hippy liberals who...
As silly as that sounds, there are several people here who totally believe this ti be the "new" truth.

Whatever happen to the hippy liberals who used to shun "big brother"? Now days, "big brother" (government) is the only one they trust to be fair, honest, and trust worthy! Whatever.
jmar wrote:
I pay for my government and I want them to do a better job at doing what is right for this country. I can't believe people...
I pay for my government and I want them to do a better job at doing what is right for this country.

I can't believe people will bicker like little children while wall street continues to do as they please and take this country down the tubes.

Do your homework so you all understand what wall street finance did to put us into the shape we're in today, them think about it and see if you want to let them do it all again.
Oh, so you're not "bickering"?
And we, don't want our government to do a better job?
I'm not justifying wall street, just pointing out the ineptness our government has to make decisions that benefit us(their employers). Their decisions only benefit their own agenda, self serving, instead of serving us.
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jmar wrote:
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over...
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over again. It's corrupt, it's stupid and it's powerful.
09450f wrote:
include congress with that explanation
No argument here. As far as I am concerned we should get rid of each and every one of them and start from scratch.
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jmar wrote:
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over...
Creating a new wall street would be the best thing this country has seen for years. Chop it off at the knees and start all over again. It's corrupt, it's stupid and it's powerful.
09450f wrote:
include congress with that explanation
jmar wrote:
No argument here. As far as I am concerned we should get rid of each and every one of them and start from scratch.
That has to happen, first.
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09450f wrote:
include congress with that explanation
jmar wrote:
No argument here. As far as I am concerned we should get rid of each and every one of them and start from scratch.
jimmie wrote:
That has to happen, first.
That isn't going to happen as long as everybody keeps on voting on the party line.

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jmar wrote:
No argument here. As far as I am concerned we should get rid of each and every one of them and start from scratch.
jimmie wrote:
That has to happen, first.
jmar wrote:
That isn't going to happen as long as everybody keeps on voting on the party line.

Hey I crossed the line and actually voted for Obama, silly me.
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jmar wrote:
No argument here. As far as I am concerned we should get rid of each and every one of them and start from scratch.
jimmie wrote:
That has to happen, first.
jmar wrote:
That isn't going to happen as long as everybody keeps on voting on the party line.

i have to get ready..but when i heard you didn't vote for R or D..i was impressed

i haven't for 4 elections
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jimmie wrote:
That has to happen, first.
jmar wrote:
That isn't going to happen as long as everybody keeps on voting on the party line.

jimmie wrote:
Hey I crossed the line and actually voted for Obama, silly me.
At least you weren't voting like a party hack.

I wouldn't vote for Obama or McCain and here in OK we had no independents on the ballot.

I showed but didn't get to vote.

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