old off road bikes are ugly imho

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12/10/2019 7:37 PM

i love old cars and old street bikes. i just dont like any off road bikes before 89/90. the shape of these late 80's bikes and the characteristics like fork length etc still apllies in todays bikes. but before it was like they put random parts together... maybe it has to do with the fact that i start riding at 90's and rode nothing else than off road bikes since then but i cant see the classic beauty i see on a bmw 3.0 csl or an old mv agusta in older off roaders. even the mid 80's bikes are pretty awful to look at. the plastics just dont match.

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12/10/2019 8:15 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say..
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12/10/2019 8:29 PM

I agree. I like the look of the early-mid 70s bikes, but not much from the 80s gets me too excited.

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12/10/2019 8:35 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/10/2019 8:36 PM

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Anyone but Ralph!

12/10/2019 8:35 PM

Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder also. And that's okay too, lol.

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There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

12/10/2019 8:37 PM

This thread is worthless without pics of ugly bikes...

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12/10/2019 8:57 PM

This is ugly??? SMDH...

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12/10/2019 8:59 PM

ktm 125 wrote:

i love old cars and old street bikes. i just dont like any off road bikes before 89/90. the shape of these late 80's bikes and the characteristics like fork length etc still apllies in todays bikes. but before it was like they put random parts together... maybe it has to do with the fact that i start riding at 90's and rode nothing else than off road bikes since then but i cant see the classic beauty i see on a bmw 3.0 csl or an old mv agusta in older off roaders. even the mid 80's bikes are pretty awful to look at. the plastics just dont match.

You are right because old KTMs are just as ugly as new KTMs . Now jap bikes from the 70s and 80s are awesome looking.

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Ed Johnson

12/10/2019 9:18 PM

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

I agree. I like the look of the early-mid 70s bikes, but not much from the 80s gets me too excited.

Same. Dirt bikes from the 70s generally had pretty clean lines, but most of bikes from the evo-era are a bit gangly from a styling stand-point. They were trying to fit so many concepts in each model year, and the implementation was often funky. Then, by about 88-'92 they locked in the standard modern look we all are pretty familiar with.

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12/10/2019 9:25 PM

Press516 wrote:

This is ugly??? SMDH...

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This bike could win a beauty contest...in my opinion.

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There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

12/10/2019 9:26 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/10/2019 9:31 PM

Johnny Depp wrote:

This thread is worthless without pics of ugly bikes...

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These always struck me as off-the-charts in terms of 80s styling clunkiness:
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12/10/2019 9:39 PM

some of the best looking mx bikes of all time are from the 80's. hondas from circa 85 onwards, most rm;s and a few yz's. kx's were hit n miss but the maico's were nice looking things aswell. aircooled hondas ?

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12/10/2019 9:59 PM

Pretty sure the OP meant Enduro's?

Going back a little further, when KTM was just a twinkle in Penton's eye..

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12/11/2019 12:14 AM

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Bought this last summer, its so god damn ugly its gorgeus
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12/11/2019 7:43 AM

i agree. the 80's everyday technological leaps had something to do with the mediocre style. they just didnt know f.e.how to make a watercolled bike looked cool because that was something new back then. but the street bikes from that era looks beautifull. suzuki katana and the first gsxr comes to mind. the 70's mx are better looking but still like a mad max xr 600 kinda beauty...
so a question to veterans. when the new era bikes arrived (89 or so) do you like them from the very start or it took some time for you? and do you believe that the most beautifull bike is from the time you were teens?

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12/11/2019 7:50 AM

In 40 years if we're still about what will we all think of today's bikes ermm

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12/11/2019 7:53 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/11/2019 8:26 AM

mac3-d wrote:

In 40 years if we're still about what will we all think of today's bikes ermm

Probably not too much one way or another, since the styling has been almost standardized, maybe getting slightly pointier in a few spots for about 25-30 years.

Thre's not much difference in basic lines between a '90 KX and every current dirt bike.

It's like trying to critique the styling of an '86 Taurus. All you can say is that it just looks like a car.

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12/11/2019 8:04 AM

I never understood the infatuation with these older bikes. I guess they’re just before my time. I bet there’s some sort of correlation between guys that prefer these old bikes and guys that still prefer bush laughing

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Two wheels, tacos, and tubes

12/11/2019 8:08 AM

XR350
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12/11/2019 8:24 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/11/2019 8:27 AM

Honda Man 66 wrote:

XR350
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To me, this is cool. Updated plastic in a few spots, fits design lines of the old tank without being too obvious. Only real telltale of its age is the "block" style of the seat. Good looking Honda right there, I'd be proud to own it.

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12/11/2019 8:28 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/11/2019 8:29 AM

Honda Man 66 wrote:

XR350
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dadofagun wrote:

To me, this is cool. Updated plastic in a few spots, fits design lines of the old tank without being too obvious. Only real telltale of its age is the "block" style of the seat. Good looking Honda right there, I'd be proud to own it.

USD Forks w/ wave rotor also really change up overall lines. Need to throw a few more carburetors on there, though.

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12/11/2019 8:40 AM

PhotoUgly????
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12/11/2019 8:42 AM

Ugly??? Photo

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12/11/2019 8:43 AM

Bluelion wrote: PhotoUgly????

Both this and the Maico are carryovers that still had cleaner 70s styling. Then evo-era Honda's got hit with an ugly stick.

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12/11/2019 8:44 AM

I think there are bikes of beauty in every decade and also ugly ducklings. Just like now...

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12/11/2019 8:45 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/11/2019 9:02 AM

Bluelion wrote:

Ugly??? Photo

That bike is technologically bad ass and the workmanship is pure artistry, but the actual form is lumpy-as-hell under caked on make-up (paint and painted plastic)

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12/11/2019 9:27 AM

Dirty Points wrote:

These always struck me as off-the-charts in terms of 80s styling clunkiness:
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Looks like the chain would snap just setting sag on that bike blink

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12/11/2019 9:48 AM

This is artwork. Factory RC125 Ribi-link


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12/11/2019 9:55 AM

if you don’t think an 85 XR600 looks hot you’re older than dirt or something. But to each his own.

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12/11/2019 9:57 AM

ktm 125 wrote:

i love old cars and old street bikes. i just dont like any off road bikes before 89/90. the shape of these late 80's bikes and the characteristics like fork length etc still apllies in todays bikes. but before it was like they put random parts together... maybe it has to do with the fact that i start riding at 90's and rode nothing else than off road bikes since then but i cant see the classic beauty i see on a bmw 3.0 csl or an old mv agusta in older off roaders. even the mid 80's bikes are pretty awful to look at. the plastics just dont match.

And we need to know this why?

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