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1/27/2012 6:50am
Team Suzuki's Matt Moss came to REM this weekend at Glen Helen to log some saddle time during the AMA National Motocross series' two-week break. There was no doubt that Moss was the fastest rider on the track, but the 450 Pro winner had to spend 20 minutes in the first moto running down 450 Intermediate winner Justin Jones.
this kid JJ is an amateur? damn,..i feel sorry for the other kids that are REALLY amateurs.
this in a nutshell is what is wrong with amateur racing imho. i know DC runs a tight ship at LL and the races leading up to the big dance but the cheating/attempted must run rampant during the year.
i can't imagine not going as fast as i fucking could and trying to win every race i entered, going local pro and as soon as the age allowed it going AMA pro. after all...THAT is the big dance...isn't it?
wtf?
this kid JJ is an amateur? damn,..i feel sorry for the other kids that are REALLY amateurs.
this in a nutshell is what is wrong with amateur racing imho. i know DC runs a tight ship at LL and the races leading up to the big dance but the cheating/attempted must run rampant during the year.
i can't imagine not going as fast as i fucking could and trying to win every race i entered, going local pro and as soon as the age allowed it going AMA pro. after all...THAT is the big dance...isn't it?
wtf?
Alessi used to wax almost everyone in these type races too.
Let em line up at a National or a Supercross and the story will be told.
It's a little harder to spot a sand bagger when every freaking kid does it. As opposed to one kid that's destroying a class.
What people like DC (and more importantly track owners) need to do is start bumping TONS of kids up a class. Think about it people. Look at the class as a whole and ask yourself... are these dudes B level? Nope, they are probably not. Bump them.
Though, it really comes down to the sanctioning bodies to do this... and that means you are primarily going to deal with the AMA. I personally don't have the energy to take on that worthless battle.
I'm getting tired just thinking about fighting the good fight any longer
The Shop
There was no doubt that Moss was the fastest rider on the track, but the 450 Pro winner had to spend 20 minutes in the first moto running down 450 Intermediate winner Justin Jones. With all the Pro classes (250, 450 and Over-40 combined with the 250 and 450 Intermediate classes), it was assumed that Moss would pull the trigger on the start and take off. It was not to be. Over-40 Pro Willy Musgrave holeshot the combined Pro/Intermediate start. Musgrave was quickly passed by Justin Jones, son of four-time 250 National Champion Gary Jones. Justin put the hammer down and opened a big lead while Moss had trouble with Musgrave, Chris Hay and Ryan Cowell. By the time Moss worked his way into second place, Jones had a ten-second lead. Moss put his head down and thanks to REM's long 20-minute plus one lap Pro motos began to nibble into the teenager's lead. By the checkered flag Moss had passed Jones for the win, but the two riders did stop to congratulate each other. Moss got the workout that he came to REM for, and Jones got a chance to lead against a factory Suzuki rider.
Pit Row
I know it goes on, but, where do you stop bumping people up? Do there need to be some faster classes than B that are full on amateur? Super B? Bumble B? Spelling B?
I guess the idea is that you move up as fast as you can? If you run near the front in C, you jump into B to run at the back of the pack? From what some talk about, nobody run A because that's an "expert/pro" class? The end of amateur status?
hey...if that's yer game more power to you. in some cases it's not the riders fault i suppose, i mean when there's more incentives to race am than pro you go or in this case stay where the money is. oh...but wait...it ISN'T AMATEUR racing anymore then is it?
Is B class the new A Class ?
the first couple times i tried qualifying for lorreta's i got smoked so bad it was embarrassing that i was in the same class as them. but after a couple more tries i was running right with Bess, Shimp, Morais and all the big name Cali guys.
i guess the moral of my story is that southern cali does things differently. the C riders down there are close to the pace of A riders in other 'less advanced moto states'
I like to look at the classes from the top down instead of the bottom up. Someone that qualifies consistently in the Nationals or SX are hands down faster for longer than your local A class or local pro or whatever you want to call it. Many times the fastest B riders are fast enough to beat some of the A boys in a 7 lap sprint but take it to a 20 minute moto and see what happens, if you never have plans to race professionally and there are people in your class that make a race for you I'd stay in that class. Sandbagging is rampant in all forms of amateur racing and it seems that LL and the other "big" amateur events is pretty bad in the B class especially but if you plan to make a go at racing professionally unless you are Dungey a B class win is just another race on your way up. If you think teams hire people solely from their LL resume' the point is being missed.
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