If Astars pants cant stay up for Eli how can I expect them to stay up for me?

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7/28/2018 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/30/2018 12:45pm
twice eli rode too hard for his pants
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7/28/2018 5:17pm
They pay Tomac to go fast and make their gear look good... but i think he’s making it look cheap as crap lol
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7/28/2018 5:23pm
If your pants don’t fall off, you’re not riding fast enough.
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7/28/2018 5:27pm
Eli was really riding his pants off out there !
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7/28/2018 11:38pm
alpinestars stuff is garbage.

italians half ass alot of stuff in the cycling world too. dirty secret.
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7/28/2018 11:48pm
Looks like it could use a redesign. Are those Velcro straps on the side?
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7/29/2018 12:17am
milliebays wrote:
alpinestars stuff is garbage.

italians half ass alot of stuff in the cycling world too. dirty secret.
It's not garbage. I've owned their boots and gear and both hold up extremely well.

We're talking about Eli Tomac here not some B class weekend warrior. The pants are fine for you and I.
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7/29/2018 12:27am
Pretty sure his pants just break from lugging those giant balls around
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Gandorlf wrote:
It's not garbage. I've owned their boots and gear and both hold up extremely well. We're talking about Eli Tomac here not some B class weekend...
It's not garbage. I've owned their boots and gear and both hold up extremely well.

We're talking about Eli Tomac here not some B class weekend warrior. The pants are fine for you and I.

last week we had people saying being harder on your bike did NOT make meckanicals more likely.....

this week we have someone saying a person can be harder on his PANTS and therefore will more often fail....

ffs how stupid can this place be?
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7/29/2018 12:39am
A-stars boots? Yes
A-stars gear? Thats a no-no
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7/29/2018 9:13am
On a serious note, does ET3 consider looking for a.different brand in the off season?

Why do you not see other A-Stars guys having the same issues? (Barcia/Herlings)
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If your pants don’t fall off, you’re not riding fast enough.
In that case Dungey takes the title for fastest man alive lol.


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7/29/2018 9:41am
milliebays wrote:
alpinestars stuff is garbage.

italians half ass alot of stuff in the cycling world too. dirty secret.
like what?
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7/29/2018 9:47am
This thread will deliver I predict, nice start thus far.

Eli was absolutely hauling ass yesterday. Freaking insaneWoohoo
7/29/2018 9:58am
I was at the race and watched Eli from a couple of different places on the track. Got home and watched that second moto on the NBC Gold app. When I saw him fucking with his pants while he was running down and destroying 1 and 2 I went, "WUUUUUTT?!?!?!?!"
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7/29/2018 11:28am
They should make Eli start at the back of every moto with his pants down. 4 seconds per lap faster than the leaders towards the end of the race...
That was fun to watch. Cool
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7/29/2018 12:50pm
The gear is custom made and Eli wants the lightest gear he can possibly get so it’s obviously not super durable. That said I’ve seen all brands have a failure over the years but two in one season doesn’t look great for them.
7/29/2018 12:58pm
es337 wrote:
twice eli rode too hard for his pants
They will stay up for you because you are as fast as a snail compared to Eli. He puts 10x the force on those straps than you could ever wish to.
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7/29/2018 1:00pm
make1go wrote:
last week we had people saying being harder on your bike did NOT make meckanicals more likely..... this week we have someone saying a person can...

last week we had people saying being harder on your bike did NOT make meckanicals more likely.....

this week we have someone saying a person can be harder on his PANTS and therefore will more often fail....

ffs how stupid can this place be?
The answer to your question is in your own post. You set the bar around here.
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7/29/2018 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2018 3:28pm
If I were on Eli’s pants I would let that go once....twice I’d be looking for a new clothing sponsor.

I must say that was one of the most incredible displays of riding I have ever witnessed.
To be cutting 3-4 secs a lap off of the leaders at the end of the Moto was unreal.
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7/29/2018 2:43pm
milliebays wrote:
alpinestars stuff is garbage.

italians half ass alot of stuff in the cycling world too. dirty secret.
51xc wrote:
like what?
Definitely not their women. They’re smoking over there
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KennyT wrote:
If I were on Eli’s pants I would let that go once....twice I’d be looking for a new clothing sponsor. I must say that was one...
If I were on Eli’s pants I would let that go once....twice I’d be looking for a new clothing sponsor.

I must say that was one of the most incredible displays of riding I have ever witnessed.
To be cutting 3-4 secs a lap off of the leaders at the end of the Moto was unreal.
You obviously don’t know how much money A-Stars is paying Eli to wear that stuff ! There’s NO other gear company that could afford to pay him what he’s making.

With that said... I wouldn’t buy it. But that’s just me
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7/29/2018 3:30pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2018 3:31pm
KennyT wrote:
If I were on Eli’s pants I would let that go once....twice I’d be looking for a new clothing sponsor. I must say that was one...
If I were on Eli’s pants I would let that go once....twice I’d be looking for a new clothing sponsor.

I must say that was one of the most incredible displays of riding I have ever witnessed.
To be cutting 3-4 secs a lap off of the leaders at the end of the Moto was unreal.
langhammx wrote:
You obviously don’t know how much money A-Stars is paying Eli to wear that stuff ! There’s NO other gear company that could afford to pay...
You obviously don’t know how much money A-Stars is paying Eli to wear that stuff ! There’s NO other gear company that could afford to pay him what he’s making.

With that said... I wouldn’t buy it. But that’s just me
You are right about that, I have no idea what they pay him. So is Alpinstars the big dollar gear sponsor in the series?

Sure seems to be pissing away a lot of $$$ for negative results. I don’t pay much attention to anyone’s gear unless they r having to pull up those britches n the middle of the race
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7/29/2018 3:50pm
es337 wrote:
twice eli rode too hard for his pants
I don't think the pants were designed to be durable enough for someone with 10lb brass balls, that's all. You have no worries, you'll be fine with them.
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If your pants don’t fall off, you’re not riding fast enough.
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In that case Dungey takes the title for fastest man alive lol. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/29/277616/s1200_127416_7.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/29/277617/s1200_127418_6.jpg[/img]
In that case Dungey takes the title for fastest man alive lol.


Id be afraid of burning my weanur on the pipe.
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7/29/2018 4:01pm
Um.. does anyone remember that a digger caused the first failure? I wouldn't question quality when yesterday was likely just a freak accident. It's not like every pro with astars is DNFing to pants mechanicals. Personally, I'd run a couple layers of bailing wire around my waist, just in case. Or maybe a ratchet strap
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The answer to your question is in your own post. You set the bar around here.
you scope of understanding is on the nanometer scale...and whats worse you think otherwise....
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7/29/2018 8:11pm
The A-Star pants have the new Thermo-Control feature. In high heat conditions, they automatically vent out the back for cooling. Very high tech stuff.

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7/30/2018 11:57am Edited Date/Time 7/30/2018 11:59am
milliebays wrote:
alpinestars stuff is garbage.

italians half ass alot of stuff in the cycling world too. dirty secret.
51xc wrote:
like what?
Anything FSA - no explanation needed

3T doesn't publish any technical drawings of their components like, say, Thomson does. Makes it hard to fit bars.

Campy had to outsource their new disc brakes to Formula (yes also italian)
Campy uses green loctite on their wheels, effectively welding the nipples in place and making it impossible to true your $3,000 carbon wheels at home.
Campy requires special tools for simple things like installing chains and crank arms.

Formula brakes have had an identity crisis wrt fluid choice - finally settling on mineral. their quick release fittings leak.

frame makers outsource their carbon to taiwan, while generally relying on italian heritage and mystique rather than functional superiority to sell frames, pinarello being the only real exception.

i don't wear much italian cycling gear, but the word is they import alot of 3rd world labor to italy to make it, but then charge exorbitant rates for it, since 'made in italy'.

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