career numbers has been announced

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Edited Date/Time 9/16/2014 1:59am
http://racerxonline.com/2014/09/12/2015-numbers-announced

2015 Top 100 and Career Pro Numbers for AMA Supercross and Motocross

*Career Numbers
**New Career Numbers for 2015

1 - 450MX: Ken Roczen
1 - 250MX: Jeremy Martin
1 - 450SX: Ryan Villopoto
1 - 250SX West: Jason Anderson
1 - 250SX East: Justin Bogle
2*: Ryan Villopoto
3*: Eli Tomac
4*: Blake Baggett
5*: Ryan Dungey
6**: Jeremy Martin
7*: James Stewart
9*: Ivan Tedesco
10*: Justin Brayton
11*: Kyle Chisholm
12*: Jake Weimer
14**: Cole Seely
15*: Dean Wilson
16*: Zach Osborne
17**: Cooper Webb
18*: David Millsaps
19**: Justin Bogle
20*: Broc Tickle
21: Jason Anderson
22*: Chad Reed
23: Weston Peick
24*: Brett Metcalfe
25*: Marvin Musquin
26*: Michael Byrne
27*: Nicholas Wey
28: Jessy Nelson
29*: Andrew Short
30: Christophe Pourcel
31: Alex Martin
32: Justin Hill
33*: Joshua Grant
34: Malcolm Stewart
35: Kyle Cunningham
36: Matthew Goerke
37: Joey Savatgy
38: Matthew Bisceglia
39: Fredrik Noren
40: Shane McElrath
41*: Trey Canard
42: Ben Lamay
43: Matthew Lemoine
44: Zachary Bell
45: Vince Friese
46: Phillip Nicoletti
47: Martin Davalos
48: William Hahn
49: James Decotis
50: Adam Cianciarulo
51*: Justin Barcia
52: Mitchell Oldenburg
53: Jimmy Albertson
54: Ryan Sipes
55: Kyle Peters
56: Cole Thompson
57: Jackson Richardson
58: Killian Rusk
59: Dakota Tedder
60: Jake Canada
61: Michael Leib
62: Anthony Rodriquez
63: Chris Blose
64: AJ Catanzaro
65: Scott Champion
66: Christopher Alldredge
67: Dean Ferris
68: Christian Craig
69: Ronnie Stewart
70: Nicholas Schmidt
71: Cole Martinez
72: Blake Wharton
73: Gannon Audette
74: Zachary Williams
75*: Josh Hill
76: Evgeny Mikhaylov
77: Justin Starling
78: Preston Mull
79: Jace Owen
80: RJ Hampshire
81: Tommy Weeck
82: Jacob Baumert
83: Levi Kilbarger
84: Jesse Wentland
85: Landon Powell
86: Zackery Freeberg
87: Cody Gilmore
88: Dakota Alix
89: Brady Kiesel
90: Topher Ingalls
91: Chris Howell
92: Cade Clason
93: Dillian Epstein
94*: Ken Roczen
95: Nick Gaines
96: Sean Collier
97: Darryn Durham
98: Gavin Faith
99: Paul Coates
800*: Mike Alessi
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9/12/2014 11:05pm Edited Date/Time 9/12/2014 11:06pm
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what you want, even a three didgit.

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9/12/2014 11:35pm
JM485 wrote:
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what...
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what you want, even a three didgit.
The entire idea of career numbers isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you earned.
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9/12/2014 11:54pm
MXerDW wrote:
Hmmmm so Valentin Teilllet and Matt Moss did not get #'s If you go back and look Dan Truman and myself were pretty much right on...
Hmmmm so Valentin Teilllet and Matt Moss did not get #'s

If you go back and look Dan Truman and myself were pretty much right on with the #'s
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/2015-Numbers,1274904?excl…
I believe they used FIM licenses, similar to some of the Frenchman who have came over and did good, but didn't earn a number. (Fabien Izoird, Gregory Aranda, and others)


How about Pourcel having to run 30! That's an excuse to not show up.
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Hmm, Michael Byrne didn't score the necessary 25 points. I'm very surprised to see that they're going to let him keep his career number.
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9/13/2014 12:06am
Dx3moto wrote:
I believe they used FIM licenses, similar to some of the Frenchman who have came over and did good, but didn't earn a number. (Fabien Izoird...
I believe they used FIM licenses, similar to some of the Frenchman who have came over and did good, but didn't earn a number. (Fabien Izoird, Gregory Aranda, and others)


How about Pourcel having to run 30! That's an excuse to not show up.
This is what I originally typed.
I left Telliett off my list because I am thinking he rode with a FIM license



And you are right it will give Pourcel a excuse not to race next season.
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9/13/2014 12:09am
ML512 wrote:
Hmm, Michael Byrne didn't score the necessary 25 points. I'm very surprised to see that they're going to let him keep his career number.
He was given a pass for his INJURY so he kept his #
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9/13/2014 2:48am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2014 2:49am
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and Kyle Chisholm #11 get to keep those numbers? Neither one has won a championship. And Justin won a national a few years ago.......but what the heck? What I'm asking is......how did they get a " career number " in the first place?
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9/13/2014 3:02am
jeffro503 wrote:
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and...
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and Kyle Chisholm #11 get to keep those numbers? Neither one has won a championship. And Justin won a national a few years ago.......but what the heck? What I'm asking is......how did they get a " career number " in the first place?
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes..

If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in a season ( as in a year of racing) they earn a career # that stays with them for the rest of there career as a Pro.

Brayton and Chisholm earned there #'s a few years ago and they get to keep those #'s

Brayton and Chisholm both earned there #'s racing in 2010.
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9/13/2014 3:37am
So now which ever 250 rider takes the MX championship next summer will be career #8 I guess. Odds are it will be AC..... But maybe he'll take his 92 like his buddy KR94.
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9/13/2014 5:31am
JM485 wrote:
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what...
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what you want, even a three didgit.
The entire idea of career numbers isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you earned.
Running the number you earned isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you choose and is available.
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9/13/2014 6:31am
Have to be mighty cool to see your name on that list.
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9/13/2014 7:35am
with cianciarulo getting hurt in sx series he didnt race any outdoors so how did he get any points earned for # 50??
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9/13/2014 8:00am
JM485 wrote:
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what...
So if you score enough points you have to run the two didget number they assign you? That's pretty stupid, why can't you just run what you want, even a three didgit.
The entire idea of career numbers isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you earned.
IWreckALot wrote:
Running the number you earned isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you choose and is available.
Exactly, no reason for this idiotic game of musical numbers. It's a lot easier to identify a rider in the track when they don't keep changing the numbers every year, I don't see any advantage to this system. For example, we all know Pourcel as 377, but now he has to run the number 30. Pretty pointless in my opinion.
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9/13/2014 8:07am
jeffro503 wrote:
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and...
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and Kyle Chisholm #11 get to keep those numbers? Neither one has won a championship. And Justin won a national a few years ago.......but what the heck? What I'm asking is......how did they get a " career number " in the first place?
MXerDW wrote:
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes.. If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in...
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes..

If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in a season ( as in a year of racing) they earn a career # that stays with them for the rest of there career as a Pro.

Brayton and Chisholm earned there #'s a few years ago and they get to keep those #'s

Brayton and Chisholm both earned there #'s racing in 2010.
It stays with them along as they score 25 points a season or are given a pass as you mentioned with Byrne. I've read the rule and it has that injury clause. I'm still surprised Byrne could keep it because he did try to race, so I thought that cancelled that out.
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9/13/2014 8:09am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2014 8:12am
It's kinda crazy to me, almost every number in the top 30 is taken through championships or career numbers, except 21, 23, 28, and 30. Byrne didn't get the necessary points to run 26, so not sure why that's not avail., but back on topic, not very many of those numbers in the top 30 will be avail for years, plus the 33,41,51, 75, and 94. So basically there are 70 numbers up for grabs with fewer n fewer each year with guys earning career numbers by finishing in the top 10 points overall. Did they see this coming when they changed to career numbers and added the regional 250sx points to the total?
9/13/2014 8:49am
The entire idea of career numbers isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you earned.
IWreckALot wrote:
Running the number you earned isn't my cup of tea. Wear the number you choose and is available.
JM485 wrote:
Exactly, no reason for this idiotic game of musical numbers. It's a lot easier to identify a rider in the track when they don't keep changing...
Exactly, no reason for this idiotic game of musical numbers. It's a lot easier to identify a rider in the track when they don't keep changing the numbers every year, I don't see any advantage to this system. For example, we all know Pourcel as 377, but now he has to run the number 30. Pretty pointless in my opinion.
I know, right? What a silly concept to actually wear the number that was earned. It would be so hard to identify Ryan Dungey if he had a number two on his bike one year and a number one the next. Unsure
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9/13/2014 8:52am
But does that count when the numbers such as kdub a change hands? What if idk ac as a example wants the 2 after a few l years of poto being gone
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9/13/2014 9:07am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2014 9:43am
Sully22 wrote:
It's kinda crazy to me, almost every number in the top 30 is taken through championships or career numbers, except 21, 23, 28, and 30. Byrne...
It's kinda crazy to me, almost every number in the top 30 is taken through championships or career numbers, except 21, 23, 28, and 30. Byrne didn't get the necessary points to run 26, so not sure why that's not avail., but back on topic, not very many of those numbers in the top 30 will be avail for years, plus the 33,41,51, 75, and 94. So basically there are 70 numbers up for grabs with fewer n fewer each year with guys earning career numbers by finishing in the top 10 points overall. Did they see this coming when they changed to career numbers and added the regional 250sx points to the total?
Yep, number 8 and 13 are the only #'s available in top 20.
Careers are lasting longer, more guys finishing top ten and fewer numbers available.
Imo top ten finish is a great accomplishment just not enough to earn a career number
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Idk career numbers benefit the rider and helps with marketing themselves so their is value for them. Maybe stiffer requirements to earn it.

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9/13/2014 9:09am
jeffro503 wrote:
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and...
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and Kyle Chisholm #11 get to keep those numbers? Neither one has won a championship. And Justin won a national a few years ago.......but what the heck? What I'm asking is......how did they get a " career number " in the first place?
MXerDW wrote:
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes.. If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in...
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes..

If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in a season ( as in a year of racing) they earn a career # that stays with them for the rest of there career as a Pro.

Brayton and Chisholm earned there #'s a few years ago and they get to keep those #'s

Brayton and Chisholm both earned there #'s racing in 2010.
Ok wow! I asked an honest question because I couldn't remember exactly what the rule was on the matter.

2nd......I hadn't drank a drop of anything.
3rd.....I rarely drink anyways!
4th......what the hell is with the low blow Duane?

I've always been super respectful to you and all you do here , so I'm not sure why you had to throw me a comment like that. Have a nice day.
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9/13/2014 9:20am
web mx wrote:
with cianciarulo getting hurt in sx series he didnt race any outdoors so how did he get any points earned for # 50??
That´s what I was wondering too. Lieb didn´t race outdoors either, did he?
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9/13/2014 10:30am
ML512 wrote:
Hmm, Michael Byrne didn't score the necessary 25 points. I'm very surprised to see that they're going to let him keep his career number.
OK, then...what about Davi?
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9/13/2014 10:36am
web mx wrote:
with cianciarulo getting hurt in sx series he didnt race any outdoors so how did he get any points earned for # 50??
Sunhouse wrote:
That´s what I was wondering too. Lieb didn´t race outdoors either, did he?
2 years ago they changed the rules to allow 250SX points to count. Prior to that change only 250MX points counted towards national numbers.
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9/13/2014 10:42am
MxKing809 wrote:
So now which ever 250 rider takes the MX championship next summer will be career #8 I guess. Odds are it will be AC..... But maybe...
So now which ever 250 rider takes the MX championship next summer will be career #8 I guess. Odds are it will be AC..... But maybe he'll take his 92 like his buddy KR94.
AC said when he got his first national # that he would eventually get "his #" back. I'm assuming after next year he will be 92... that is when he isn't running #1
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9/13/2014 10:42am
I've always wished they would go back to run
What you earned .
Every one could easily see how they finished the previous year so if a guy with # 50 or 66 etc is winning they can see an improvement or if a # 1 or 5 finished outside the top ten
Same thing . people like to root for underdogs so easy to see a higher # or 3 digit # do well is an underdog.
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9/13/2014 12:07pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and...
Here's a question...........I know almost everyone in the top 20 has earned their career numbers.....but how in the heck did guys like Justin Brayton #10 and Kyle Chisholm #11 get to keep those numbers? Neither one has won a championship. And Justin won a national a few years ago.......but what the heck? What I'm asking is......how did they get a " career number " in the first place?
MXerDW wrote:
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes.. If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in...
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes..

If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in a season ( as in a year of racing) they earn a career # that stays with them for the rest of there career as a Pro.

Brayton and Chisholm earned there #'s a few years ago and they get to keep those #'s

Brayton and Chisholm both earned there #'s racing in 2010.
jeffro503 wrote:
Ok wow! I asked an honest question because I couldn't remember exactly what the rule was on the matter. 2nd......I hadn't drank a drop of anything...
Ok wow! I asked an honest question because I couldn't remember exactly what the rule was on the matter.

2nd......I hadn't drank a drop of anything.
3rd.....I rarely drink anyways!
4th......what the hell is with the low blow Duane?

I've always been super respectful to you and all you do here , so I'm not sure why you had to throw me a comment like that. Have a nice day.
I apologize Jeffro,
I read your post and thought you were taking a jab at Brayton and Chisholm like they do not deserve to have those #'s.
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9/13/2014 12:20pm
Malcolm Stewart got #34 2 years in a row. Thats kinda cool.
Ben Lamay had been running the #48 for like 3-4 years now. I'm kinda bummed he isn't anymore.
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9/13/2014 12:24pm
MXerDW wrote:
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes.. If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in...
You really need to stop drinking or what ever it is you are doing Jeffro sometimes..

If a rider finishes in the top 10 overall in a season ( as in a year of racing) they earn a career # that stays with them for the rest of there career as a Pro.

Brayton and Chisholm earned there #'s a few years ago and they get to keep those #'s

Brayton and Chisholm both earned there #'s racing in 2010.
jeffro503 wrote:
Ok wow! I asked an honest question because I couldn't remember exactly what the rule was on the matter. 2nd......I hadn't drank a drop of anything...
Ok wow! I asked an honest question because I couldn't remember exactly what the rule was on the matter.

2nd......I hadn't drank a drop of anything.
3rd.....I rarely drink anyways!
4th......what the hell is with the low blow Duane?

I've always been super respectful to you and all you do here , so I'm not sure why you had to throw me a comment like that. Have a nice day.
MXerDW wrote:
I apologize Jeffro, I read your post and thought you were taking a jab at Brayton and Chisholm like they do not deserve to have those...
I apologize Jeffro,
I read your post and thought you were taking a jab at Brayton and Chisholm like they do not deserve to have those #'s.
I see. Well no shots were taken.....it was an honest question. I had thought only current and previous champions were able to get a top 20 number and I had a brain fart. There does seem to be a flaw in the way they have it though. Sooner or later we'll have maybe a couple more champions and quite a few guys who break into the top 10 in points that are not currently in the top 20 now.

Seems as though it will get bottle-necked some time in the future.

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