Youthstream/Luongo make Team Uk mxdn manager resign

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 8:17am
"Mark Eastwood will not be the manager of the British Nations team at Franciacorta !
Still a current racer Eastwood, who has guided the ACU team at the Nations for the last two years and last week made a controversial choice of riders, was extremely criticial of the FIM, Youthstream and Giuseppe Luongo in a recent magazine interview; as a result the ACU have been informed that Mark was considered "persona non grata" for the upcoming world team contest.


An official statement from the ACU is expected this afternoon, and understandably no-one at the British federation wished to speak about the matter in advance, but it known that the ACU remain fully behind Eastwood's chosen line-up of Brad Anderson, Tommy Searle and Carl Nunn and that any replacement manager will not be permitted to make changes.

It is however feasible that chosen team members could withdraw from the team out of solidarity with Eastwood."


Youthstream and Luongo suck.



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9/3/2009 5:36am
luongo is Italian for power monger.
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9/3/2009 5:54am
Wow - what mag was the interview in?

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Will give it a read, got it in the house but not had time to look at it.

Paul Malin for manager or is he commentating?

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9/3/2009 6:57am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2009 7:05am
Sounds a bit fascist?
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Highsider wrote:
Sounds a bit fascist?
[sarcasm on]
Such a thing in Europe? You don't say!!
[sarcasm off]
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In brief Mark says 'Lunogo has killed the sport in the 12 years he's been there' he also says that 'riders should forget the FIM and Lunogo and GP's' and then also says there isn't much incentive to ride GP's these days and your better off riding back in britain.
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Lunogo is a bitch. Mark, a guy who's been racing for 30 odd years to the G.P level, who actually KNOWS what the fuck is up , tells the truth and this is what happens.....

Someone get this man a lawyer.
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9/3/2009 8:52am


A couple years back Makr Eastwood was racing as a privateer here in America.

Great dude.

Dad VIC was legendary.

And a cool dude himself.

Man, I'd like to be team manager of that team.

Or any team for that matter.
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9/3/2009 8:56am
Man that REALLY sucks! Easty is/was a great team manager and still a great rider.

The views he expressed in MOTO reflected my own thoughts exactly, along with many others Im sure.
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The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the sport from any of the championship series, and should be treated as such.
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9/3/2009 9:10am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:57am
The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the...
The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the sport from any of the championship series, and should be treated as such.
Probably right, but then who would promote it? Makes sense for Youthstream to run it as I doubt an American promoter would get involved.


Its just a shame that The ACU (The British governing body) decided that Eastwoods remarks did not correspond with their own arse licking support of Loungo & his Youthstream nonsense. What he said about the way GPs are run these days was all completley true. He basically suggested it was better for riders to stay and compete in domestic championships where they can earn more money and race better tracks.
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That is really stupid the magazine was out when the team was released I don't see the problem/ How doYS have the power to do that?

Eastwood was a good manager, and should be there.- the only thing is he left out Simpson and Mackenzie and those two are the fastest riders the UK have but they both race GPs if mark left them out becasue they race GPs then that would be a problem....
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The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the...
The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the sport from any of the championship series, and should be treated as such.
I think it's clear who tells the FIM what to do.
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And we think the AMA dudes are "wacky".
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9/3/2009 9:17am
Because they race GPs? I thought Mackenzie spent a good portion of the season out of action with an injury?
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9/3/2009 9:17am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2009 9:19am
The ACU made mark eastwood resign. You could see from the wording of the team press release that they were pissed off with his selection (leaving out the fastest riders). Wouldnt surprise me if the ACU were using this as a convenient way to take the heat off themselves. By firing him for reasons that he said inflamatory stuff in his article, it makes it look like a YS call and takes the heat off them completeley.
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There has been a huge fall out over Marks selection of not putting GP riders in

Simpson - Q: You must have been pretty upset when you heard you had been left out of the British team for the Motocross of Nations? What is your opinion of the British team?

Simpson: Obviously it is Mark's decision and there is nothing I can do about it, but personally I was shocked. There is at least one rider where everyone is surprised to see his name. Carl (Nunn) I don't know, as for Brad (Anderson) has done well in Britain, won a couple of MX3 motos, but it still isn't the same level as the Grand Prix guys. I feel Billy for one race (MXoN), every slag’s him off but my choice would be Billy for that slot.

Q: Did Mark tell you why you were not picked?

Simpson: He (Mark Eastwood) said to me he wanted to pick a 450cc rider and I had been out for all year, but I said my fitness isn't that bad and the Motocross of Nations is still five weeks off, and I don't mind riding a 450cc. I mean we have the bikes here ready and I can start training after Brazil and get ready for it.

Q: I thought the team might be Tommy Searle, Billy Mackenzie and yourself, but there seems to be some politics involved. What is your opinion?

Simpson: I mean everyone is saying Tommy is a definite, but nobody really knows what his speed is out there. He has been going alright, but he hasn't been that great in the last couple of months. I mean he might come here and run the same pace, I think Tommy was the easiest decision for Mark, but still it's questionable.

and Sword wasn't too impressed either

Q: Swordy, so what’s the story, how do you feel about the British MXoN team?

Sword: I think it's a load of bollox to be honest, and that is what I think about it and that is why I don't care about it to be honest. Obviously Mark has his reasons for doing it and he has the pressure. I am not saying I should have been picked, and I respect all the riders who have been picked, but I would have liked it to have been different for myself, but that's the way it is. I hope it works out for them. I might go to the race to talk to some teams, but otherwise I won't be going.

Q: There have been some forums in England going crazy about the selection hasn't there?

Sword: The thing is, it's difficult to pick the team, do you pick somebody who is British Champion, or do you pick somebody who isn't doing Grand Prix's, I mean you know there are many arguments why I should be in, but that is just me defending myself really. Tommy is the best MX2 rider, but his form isn't good at the minute.

Q: Shaun Simpson was disappointed to not be selected. What is your view on that?

Sword: I think for MX2 Shaun will be riding much better, and his form is already pretty good. He will be desperate to race, because this is like the start of his season. He will have a lot of determination and fight, and then obviously there is Brad Anderson, you could argue his point that he deserves the rider and he probably does, he has given it 100% and he's won the British MX1 Championship. Ok, he hasn't done Grand Prix's, apart from one, but you could maybe say he is the best MX1 rider at the moment, but of course if you asked Billy (Mackenzie) he would say different.

Q: What about Nunny?

Sword: Then there is Nunny, probably happy to be in the team, he hasn't done Grand Prix's, he is riding really well in the British Champs, and I have a lot of time and respect for Nunny, I grew up with him, so I am not going to slag him off. I would have been liked to have been in. Nunny has been good in the British, he is a solid rider, my only argument is that he hasn't done Grand Prix's, ok he did one at Mallory and I think he had a good day.

Q: Do you think politics played a role in the team selection?

Sword: If that is what you want me to say, yes
, but Motocross is political isn't it, I am not going to lose any sleep over it. Mark rang me up and we had a long talk and I told him how it was, I am passionate about it. Obviously you want to ride for your country. We didn't have any harsh words and I wished him the best of luck and I hope it goes well for them.

Q: How about team Scotland?

Sword: I would be up for that. I don't think we can, otherwise it would have been done before. That would be a good team; we would be a possible top five team.

I bet Billy Mac is even more annoyed...


Simpson and Mackenzie should have been in the team but Mark didn't pick them maybe that has somthing to do with it
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The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the...
The FIM really should have held back the MXdN when it contracted out the GP's years ago. The event stands in a different place from the sport from any of the championship series, and should be treated as such.
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I think it's clear who tells the FIM what to do.
Well, no, Jay, because they sold the rights to run the race. It's YS's race.

Jamma, who would promote it? Currently people bid with YS to run it. Those people could do what they are doing now, but directly with the FIM rather than YS. Obviously those people aren't going to do it at a loss and there has to be a fair allocation of risk and costs. I don't think there is a fair allocation of risks and costs now, including those borne by the riders -- who contribute the value of the event at no cost to a promoter who is running it as a commercial, for profit enterprise. And who apparently is wielding that control to suppress criticism.

I just think the MXdN purports to be a "sporting" celebration of MX, and invites the participants to sacrifice to join in as a matter of national honor, and that it ought to be treated differently than a commodity to milked for all it's worth.

But that's all hypothetical. I think the FIM sold the rights through 2020 or something like that, so it is what it is. I think folks have to rely on the market -- what riders and track operators are or aren't willing to do -- to sort it out.
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Because they race GPs? I thought Mackenzie spent a good portion of the season out of action with an injury?
yep but he was alot quicker than Anderson at the last british championship race on his comeback ride...

I'm just speculating i can't believe Mark would not choose them becasue they raced GPs but him being sacked is really strange and stupid. But alot of riders and fans where not happy with his selection and reading between the lines of what the riders not chosen are saying the choice may have been political.... But still he made the decision so he should be allowed to manage the team he choose!!
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M-M wrote:
"Mark Eastwood will not be the manager of the British Nations team at Franciacorta ! Still a current racer Eastwood, who has guided the ACU team...
"Mark Eastwood will not be the manager of the British Nations team at Franciacorta !
Still a current racer Eastwood, who has guided the ACU team at the Nations for the last two years and last week made a controversial choice of riders, was extremely criticial of the FIM, Youthstream and Giuseppe Luongo in a recent magazine interview; as a result the ACU have been informed that Mark was considered "persona non grata" for the upcoming world team contest.


An official statement from the ACU is expected this afternoon, and understandably no-one at the British federation wished to speak about the matter in advance, but it known that the ACU remain fully behind Eastwood's chosen line-up of Brad Anderson, Tommy Searle and Carl Nunn and that any replacement manager will not be permitted to make changes.

It is however feasible that chosen team members could withdraw from the team out of solidarity with Eastwood."


Youthstream and Luongo suck.



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WHERE THE FUCK IS TFS NOW? lol
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M-M wrote:
"Mark Eastwood will not be the manager of the British Nations team at Franciacorta ! Still a current racer Eastwood, who has guided the ACU team...
"Mark Eastwood will not be the manager of the British Nations team at Franciacorta !
Still a current racer Eastwood, who has guided the ACU team at the Nations for the last two years and last week made a controversial choice of riders, was extremely criticial of the FIM, Youthstream and Giuseppe Luongo in a recent magazine interview; as a result the ACU have been informed that Mark was considered "persona non grata" for the upcoming world team contest.


An official statement from the ACU is expected this afternoon, and understandably no-one at the British federation wished to speak about the matter in advance, but it known that the ACU remain fully behind Eastwood's chosen line-up of Brad Anderson, Tommy Searle and Carl Nunn and that any replacement manager will not be permitted to make changes.

It is however feasible that chosen team members could withdraw from the team out of solidarity with Eastwood."


Youthstream and Luongo suck.



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WHERE THE FUCK IS TFS NOW? lol
I can hear it now.

Never happened it's just some lies from tales of the Octopus.
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Geez, and to think he almost owned us....................
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There has been a huge fall out over Marks selection of not putting GP riders in Simpson - Q: You must have been pretty upset when...
There has been a huge fall out over Marks selection of not putting GP riders in

Simpson - Q: You must have been pretty upset when you heard you had been left out of the British team for the Motocross of Nations? What is your opinion of the British team?

Simpson: Obviously it is Mark's decision and there is nothing I can do about it, but personally I was shocked. There is at least one rider where everyone is surprised to see his name. Carl (Nunn) I don't know, as for Brad (Anderson) has done well in Britain, won a couple of MX3 motos, but it still isn't the same level as the Grand Prix guys. I feel Billy for one race (MXoN), every slag’s him off but my choice would be Billy for that slot.

Q: Did Mark tell you why you were not picked?

Simpson: He (Mark Eastwood) said to me he wanted to pick a 450cc rider and I had been out for all year, but I said my fitness isn't that bad and the Motocross of Nations is still five weeks off, and I don't mind riding a 450cc. I mean we have the bikes here ready and I can start training after Brazil and get ready for it.

Q: I thought the team might be Tommy Searle, Billy Mackenzie and yourself, but there seems to be some politics involved. What is your opinion?

Simpson: I mean everyone is saying Tommy is a definite, but nobody really knows what his speed is out there. He has been going alright, but he hasn't been that great in the last couple of months. I mean he might come here and run the same pace, I think Tommy was the easiest decision for Mark, but still it's questionable.

and Sword wasn't too impressed either

Q: Swordy, so what’s the story, how do you feel about the British MXoN team?

Sword: I think it's a load of bollox to be honest, and that is what I think about it and that is why I don't care about it to be honest. Obviously Mark has his reasons for doing it and he has the pressure. I am not saying I should have been picked, and I respect all the riders who have been picked, but I would have liked it to have been different for myself, but that's the way it is. I hope it works out for them. I might go to the race to talk to some teams, but otherwise I won't be going.

Q: There have been some forums in England going crazy about the selection hasn't there?

Sword: The thing is, it's difficult to pick the team, do you pick somebody who is British Champion, or do you pick somebody who isn't doing Grand Prix's, I mean you know there are many arguments why I should be in, but that is just me defending myself really. Tommy is the best MX2 rider, but his form isn't good at the minute.

Q: Shaun Simpson was disappointed to not be selected. What is your view on that?

Sword: I think for MX2 Shaun will be riding much better, and his form is already pretty good. He will be desperate to race, because this is like the start of his season. He will have a lot of determination and fight, and then obviously there is Brad Anderson, you could argue his point that he deserves the rider and he probably does, he has given it 100% and he's won the British MX1 Championship. Ok, he hasn't done Grand Prix's, apart from one, but you could maybe say he is the best MX1 rider at the moment, but of course if you asked Billy (Mackenzie) he would say different.

Q: What about Nunny?

Sword: Then there is Nunny, probably happy to be in the team, he hasn't done Grand Prix's, he is riding really well in the British Champs, and I have a lot of time and respect for Nunny, I grew up with him, so I am not going to slag him off. I would have been liked to have been in. Nunny has been good in the British, he is a solid rider, my only argument is that he hasn't done Grand Prix's, ok he did one at Mallory and I think he had a good day.

Q: Do you think politics played a role in the team selection?

Sword: If that is what you want me to say, yes
, but Motocross is political isn't it, I am not going to lose any sleep over it. Mark rang me up and we had a long talk and I told him how it was, I am passionate about it. Obviously you want to ride for your country. We didn't have any harsh words and I wished him the best of luck and I hope it goes well for them.

Q: How about team Scotland?

Sword: I would be up for that. I don't think we can, otherwise it would have been done before. That would be a good team; we would be a possible top five team.

I bet Billy Mac is even more annoyed...


Simpson and Mackenzie should have been in the team but Mark didn't pick them maybe that has somthing to do with it
Simpson maybe but not Mackenzie.


You know how to write complete shite Mccread. I'm glad you don't come on mxtrax.
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9/3/2009 11:10am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:57am
I happened to think that the team he picked was ok; Simpson & Mackenzie have been out injured (neither of whom were setting the world alight before their respective lay offs) While Im a big Swordy fan his GP form has been pretty lame while Ando and Nunn have both been riding really well, albeit not in the GP's. Ontop of that Nunn has years of GP experience behined him and Anderson has the ability and the attitude to do well at an MXdN. I dont know what all the fuss is about. Its only one year.

I'm sure the reason for Eastwoods exit is purely down to the critical comments he made about the GP'sl, not his team selection.
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M-M plently of people thought both Billy and Shaun should have been on the team including Tommy Searle!
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Team selections will always or most always be disputed by someone.

What really sucks is the Promoter banning a Team Manager for giving a candid interview.
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Well whatever the outcome .

Two things are for sure.

1) Whoever becomes the Team Manager now and going forward will have to accept being nothing more than a puppet for the ACU.

2) I'd bet my arse if Roger De Coster would have said what Mark said they wouldn't have called for his head.

I hope our boys do us proud, imagine how they are feeling?? No manager and a bunch of guys back home saying you shouldn't be going we should.

Fuck that.
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Well whatever the outcome . Two things are for sure. 1) Whoever becomes the Team Manager now and going forward will have to accept being nothing...
Well whatever the outcome .

Two things are for sure.

1) Whoever becomes the Team Manager now and going forward will have to accept being nothing more than a puppet for the ACU.

2) I'd bet my arse if Roger De Coster would have said what Mark said they wouldn't have called for his head.

I hope our boys do us proud, imagine how they are feeling?? No manager and a bunch of guys back home saying you shouldn't be going we should.

Fuck that.
I agree, The British Team is screwed at this point.
9/3/2009 12:18pm
GuyB wrote:
Because they race GPs? I thought Mackenzie spent a good portion of the season out of action with an injury?
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yep but he was alot quicker than Anderson at the last british championship race on his comeback ride... I'm just speculating i can't believe Mark would...
yep but he was alot quicker than Anderson at the last british championship race on his comeback ride...

I'm just speculating i can't believe Mark would not choose them becasue they raced GPs but him being sacked is really strange and stupid. But alot of riders and fans where not happy with his selection and reading between the lines of what the riders not chosen are saying the choice may have been political.... But still he made the decision so he should be allowed to manage the team he choose!!
No way ! I was at Duns and Brad gave Billy a real lesson in mud riding ! He beat him by over a minute to the chequered ! You can be as quick as you like in practice and put a hot lap or two in a race, but Billys curse is race craft and Ando truly spanked him !! No Shit !!

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