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How many times did Tomac try and take dungey out in Vegas? Kept slowing up and trying to put him on the ground? That was shady shit. Could of ruined his championship right there.
No doubt marvins pass was dirty but Tomac isn’t no saint.
No doubt marvins pass was dirty but Tomac isn’t no saint.
I think if Eli was actually trying to take out Dungey in Vegas, he would have done it. They were racing for a championship in the final round of the season. Was he racing him hard? Yes. Was it over the line dirty? Not in my view.
Eli is no saint and I think he whines too much, but he really didn't try to wreck Ryan. He knew better........
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Marv admitted fault in the eli takeout, eli knew its wrong, AMA took note of it.
Its over brah relax
Hmm, this doesn't seem to be the racing line
But it's ok because he wasn't totally trying to take him out, just force him into a mistake
... it'd say thats a pretty generous amount of a "heads up I'm coming in" distance for any pass.
Even more so when you compare it to this...
Based on that photo, had Tomac seen Marvin coming in (which he would have done at pretty much the moment captured), there is literally no option for Tomac to do anything to avoid a crash. Don't get me wrong, I like Marvin, but he basically tried to throw his bike in front of Tomac, on purpose, accident (not predicting Tomac's line choice), brain fart, or what ever... it's a pretty dick move.
ET let RD by a couple times only to try to run him down or off the track. IMHO, if you are making aggressive moves that do not directly move you up in positions towards checked flag, it's dirty.
By contrast that same day the 250 main was one of the best I have seen. Osborne was aggressive but solely to advance track positions. Yes I know the AMA did not agree and fined Osborne, but the AMA is bipolar, and that probably speaks to the greater problem. As ET says; "Where do you draw the line?" . I don't think there is a consistent answer or consensus.
his messing with dungey in vegas was kid glove stuff...stop posting these still shots...any contact was at like 2mph at best as both of them were coming to almost complete stops in the corners.
marvs was a successful torpedo. they almost both went down...marv got lucky (some call it skill)...and survived. big deal, move on. the move was almost identical to chad reeds move on JS7 at atlanta which cost both of them the win. kinda shitty but hey...it sells tickets. probably should be little more of it.
Still think it holds up as a decent example though of the differences in the passes.
Pit Row
I agree with Osborne also. I agree 100 percent everything you said and it’s how I see it.
I would do much worse for a $1,000,000+ championship bonus.
Eli kept slowing down for Ryan to pass so he could try to clean him out. Problem is Ryan has really good balance and outsmarted Tomac every single time.
Oh, and damn....$100 mill for a SX Championship is outragious!!!!
Eli last year in Vegas was "cheap" but not "dirty". Had Eli wanted to take him out, he most certainly would have - but he didn't. And that's the bottom line. Dunge finished on 2 wheels because Eli let him. Ya he tried to bunch him up in traffic and force him into a mistake. But he didn't take him out, bottom line.
Marv's move was too aggressive IMO, but I don't think he intended for it to end up as bad as it was. I think he wanted to bang with Eli and I think he wanted the win - which I get. But it ended up being a pure take out move. Poor calculation from Marv. Just bad judgment.
All will blow over eventually. There will be some payback though at some point, mark my words.
How " gentle " can you take someone out , without actually taking them out? How about he was trying to run him off the track or slow him down so other's could get by?
Look.....guys keep going back to this and slamming Eli.....when in fact , I thought it was smart as hell....while being nice! Too nice!! He should have Osbourne'd ass! But he's too freakin nice I guess.
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