Ktm Xc/Sx 150 advise!!

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Hi guys! I’m looking at buying an xc 150 or sx. Does anybody do woods riding/enduros with an sx125/150? I’m tempted to buy an sx due to their price and put a battery and light on it for enduros but I’m not sure if they would have enough low end power for woods riding. So does anyone have an sx125/150? Are they good for woods? Also, anyone own a 2011 xc150? Are they a good bike? Any issues with this year? Good power down low for woods? Thanks !
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I had a 2010 bored to a true 156cc. Currently have a 2017 150xc-w that has more low end and more power every where. Engine needed a few things in stock trim, installed a VHM head with sx insert, better reed block, carb splitter and slide/jetting. If not concerned with ultimate low low end(150 standards), no need for the carb splitter.
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I rode with a guy on a 2017 TE150 this past weekend in the mountains of Central California. The guy was in his early 60's and RIPPED on the thing. Even up steep hills. I was shocked!
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I have a 2011 150XC with 175 hours on it, and I absolutely love it! I would strongly recommend a 150 over a 125, more bottom end power and easier to ride in the woods. Plenty of power to climb hills, I've never pointed it up anything that I didn't make. On single track it's like riding a bicycle, very light and nimble.
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I owned a lot 144/150 KTM SX the last years 2008/2011/2012 and now 2016 Model.
Ride 80% MX and 20% Enduro, for me the best bike i ever had.
Light-Fast and very reliable, disassemble the Engine for the First Time after 3 Years with
170 hours and no noticeable Wear .

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KTM Two Stroke wrote:
I owned a lot 144/150 KTM SX the last years 2008/2011/2012 and now 2016 Model. Ride 80% MX and 20% Enduro, for me the best bike...
I owned a lot 144/150 KTM SX the last years 2008/2011/2012 and now 2016 Model.
Ride 80% MX and 20% Enduro, for me the best bike i ever had.
Light-Fast and very reliable, disassemble the Engine for the First Time after 3 Years with
170 hours and no noticeable Wear .
So they wouldn’t be great for woods riding?
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yz8103 12/12/2018 1:37pm
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KTM Two Stroke wrote:
Great bike for Woods riding
Would the 2013+ sx 150’s have enough low end power for enduros/woods riding?i have a 03 yz125 at the moment but it’s no good in the woods, I’m looking at a 150 for smoother power delivery and bottom end. What do you think of an enduro sx125, would it be worth it or should I just get an exc/xc? Thanks
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I ride my 2016 SX125 offroad and it's verryyyyy On and Off power wise, nothing to lug or ride slow. Lots of clutch work. Not sure how much savings you are having but I think the XC might be easier to ride off road or you might end up spending the difference in money trying to adapt it for off road.
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1983YZ125 12/12/2018 3:48pm
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lappedrider wrote:
I really wish they still made the 200XC
They do, but it's now red and for some reason they sell it in the dealerships with the Beta's Laughing
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What are you doing with your yz??
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KTM Two Stroke wrote:
I owned a lot 144/150 KTM SX the last years 2008/2011/2012 and now 2016 Model. Ride 80% MX and 20% Enduro, for me the best bike...
I owned a lot 144/150 KTM SX the last years 2008/2011/2012 and now 2016 Model.
Ride 80% MX and 20% Enduro, for me the best bike i ever had.
Light-Fast and very reliable, disassemble the Engine for the First Time after 3 Years with
170 hours and no noticeable Wear .
yz8103 wrote:
So they wouldn’t be great for woods riding?
Works great up here in Idaho. KR smoked everyone at a GNCC a few years back on the older style 150. The Gas Gas 200 or Beta 200 are probably very good also. Guys have won desert races on 125's.
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yz8103 12/12/2018 11:20pm
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colintrax wrote:
What are you doing with your yz??
A bit of mx but mostly woods
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lappedrider wrote:
I really wish they still made the 200XC
1983YZ125 wrote:
They do, but it's now red and for some reason they sell it in the dealerships with the Beta's Laughing
Do the Beta's actually use the Ktm 200 engine? Or is it their own design based off the Ktm?
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lappedrider wrote:
I really wish they still made the 200XC
1983YZ125 wrote:
They do, but it's now red and for some reason they sell it in the dealerships with the Beta's Laughing
ThatOneKid wrote:
Do the Beta's actually use the Ktm 200 engine? Or is it their own design based off the Ktm?
The KTM 200 engine was first produced in 1997. Minor updates along the way. The Beta will be far superior.
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1983YZ125 12/13/2018 11:36am
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lappedrider wrote:
I really wish they still made the 200XC
1983YZ125 wrote:
They do, but it's now red and for some reason they sell it in the dealerships with the Beta's Laughing
ThatOneKid wrote:
Do the Beta's actually use the Ktm 200 engine? Or is it their own design based off the Ktm?
I highly doubt it, i was joking. Beta just released their 200RR.
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2stmark 12/13/2018 7:13pm
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The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation
My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my 13' & 15' were
However the 16' - up motor is very easily & inexpensively massaged to make whatever power type you want .
Have an LMS head insert , stk pipe , shorty pc mx silencer . Stock Kehin , red pv spring & crazy 13/52
I like good low end power & this 16' pulls one gear taller than a stock bike & rips on top higher r's than the 13' , 15'
There is barely room for a few more cc's in the bore & none for increasing stroke
Ride enduro's h. scrambles & some moto
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2stmark wrote:
The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my...
The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation
My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my 13' & 15' were
However the 16' - up motor is very easily & inexpensively massaged to make whatever power type you want .
Have an LMS head insert , stk pipe , shorty pc mx silencer . Stock Kehin , red pv spring & crazy 13/52
I like good low end power & this 16' pulls one gear taller than a stock bike & rips on top higher r's than the 13' , 15'
There is barely room for a few more cc's in the bore & none for increasing stroke
Ride enduro's h. scrambles & some moto
I’ll be riding the same with mine. I’d say I’ll be looking at a 12 or 13.
KTM Two Stroke 12/14/2018 5:43am
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2stmark wrote:
The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my...
The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation
My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my 13' & 15' were
However the 16' - up motor is very easily & inexpensively massaged to make whatever power type you want .
Have an LMS head insert , stk pipe , shorty pc mx silencer . Stock Kehin , red pv spring & crazy 13/52
I like good low end power & this 16' pulls one gear taller than a stock bike & rips on top higher r's than the 13' , 15'
There is barely room for a few more cc's in the bore & none for increasing stroke
Ride enduro's h. scrambles & some moto
Have the same bike 16 150SX with Doma Exhaust ,VForce 4 ,13/50 Gearing and WP Cone Valve and Trax Suspension.
What is the LMS Head Insert ?
How is to ride with the 13/52 Gearing
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yz8103 wrote:
I’ll be riding the same with mine. I’d say I’ll be looking at a 12 or 13.
Better to buy a 2013 Model you don’t have the ugly Graphics -Plastics and Frontfender
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Has anyone actually seen a Beta 200 yet? I heard that their preorders were very low and that it may not happen.
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2stmark wrote:
The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my...
The 150 motor was all new in 16' ., wt. is 4lbs lighter than previous generation
My 16 motor is more mid top oriented than my 13' & 15' were
However the 16' - up motor is very easily & inexpensively massaged to make whatever power type you want .
Have an LMS head insert , stk pipe , shorty pc mx silencer . Stock Kehin , red pv spring & crazy 13/52
I like good low end power & this 16' pulls one gear taller than a stock bike & rips on top higher r's than the 13' , 15'
There is barely room for a few more cc's in the bore & none for increasing stroke
Ride enduro's h. scrambles & some moto
yz8103 wrote:
I’ll be riding the same with mine. I’d say I’ll be looking at a 12 or 13.
I had a '13 and put close to 100 hours on this bike, maintained it and rode MX/Cross country. The bike was super fast and pulled my 200# ass up the mountains of Arkansas with no issues. Of course they are small bores so expect it to be such and ride it like you stole it. I'm back on a 450 but I'd love to have a new 150.
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My wife has a 2014 150xc. I have put about 30 hrs on it in the woods. I have found it to be a great bike, was very surprised it hauled me around. 210 lbs 6’2”. The few things that suck comparing to my te300 is no electric start, bottom end let go at 40 hrs. The bike is killer for tight woods/tech trails


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dcg141 wrote:
Has anyone actually seen a Beta 200 yet? I heard that their preorders were very low and that it may not happen.
Laughing

Have you been in any Beta forums or Thumpertalk? A ton of people are interested in them.

Some of their 2019 models haven't hit dealers yet. I know the Xtrainer last i read was scheduled for January.
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dcg141 12/14/2018 10:32am
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dcg141 wrote:
Has anyone actually seen a Beta 200 yet? I heard that their preorders were very low and that it may not happen.
1983YZ125 wrote:
:laugh: Have you been in any Beta forums or Thumpertalk? A ton of people are interested in them. Some of their 2019 models haven't hit dealers...
Laughing

Have you been in any Beta forums or Thumpertalk? A ton of people are interested in them.

Some of their 2019 models haven't hit dealers yet. I know the Xtrainer last i read was scheduled for January.
Internet interest does not equal people actually buying motorcycles in many cases. I'm not sure about the Beta 200 but its something I heard.
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Jjglass535 12/14/2018 11:30am
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I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit again
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Jjglass535 wrote:
I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit...
I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit again
For sale cheap?
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Jjglass535 wrote:
I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit...
I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit again
It's fairly documented that the old throttle cables could get pulled out. I had that problem with my steering damper pulling the cable out. Thread in cables are cheap and well thread right into the stock carb. KTM changed it in 14 or 15.
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Jjglass535 wrote:
I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit...
I have a 2013 with less than 40 hours and the throttle stuck wide open. Broken back ! I will never ride that pile of shit again
colintrax wrote:
It's fairly documented that the old throttle cables could get pulled out. I had that problem with my steering damper pulling the cable out. Thread in...
It's fairly documented that the old throttle cables could get pulled out. I had that problem with my steering damper pulling the cable out. Thread in cables are cheap and well thread right into the stock carb. KTM changed it in 14 or 15.
It had nothing to do with the cable. KTM sent out 6 guys to my house and did a 3-1/2 hour inspection. The slide was stuck. The bike was like new and very well maintained. They could not find a single thing wrong on my part, clean filter, could eat out of the airbox, cable was routed properly and it had the updated throttle housing done at the dealer. It's not a good feeling o the take off of a double when it suddenly goes wide open !!!

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